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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 19, 2024 2:01:21 GMT
We get this every year. Oakland was n pace to lose 130 last year, "only" lost 112. Two years ago, it was Cincinnati, when they started 3-22 (lost 100 total). The Pale Hose will be bad. Right now, they only have two regulars hitting above the Mendoza Line. Worst team in White Sox history would be the 1932, 102 loss bunch. with Bob "Suitcase" Seeds and Bob "Fatty" Fothergill. And three HOFers, Luke Appling, Ted Lyons and Red Faber.
And I'll lay money that the Sox aren't the worst team in baseball. That'll be the Colorado Rockies. They have little talent, play in a brutal division and hamstrung with a ghastly albatross of a contract. Kris Bryant is useless and making $27,000,000.
I would lay down any amount that my Sox finish as the worst team in baseball. Our best outfielder is hurt for a long time. Our second best outfielder is always hurt. Our 3rd baseman is out, and quite terrible anyway. Just about any hitter on Oakland, and most on Colorado, would be an improvement on the Sox. Our best pitcher has pitched 1 inning the past 2 years before he started opening day for us. You know he's not gonna be playing months at a time. We are a locked dumpster fire flying around in a sharknado during a koiju battle royal. And possibly the worst part of it is that due to some newish rules that I haven't taken the time to understand, we won't even be allowed a top 10 pick even if we have the worst record ever. I was wrong, that didn't make me feel any better to get it out.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 19, 2024 13:49:17 GMT
Paul Skenes last night for Indianapolis
3.1 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 8 K's. His ERA in four starts, 0.00. 19.1 K/IP. I seen him a few times at last years CWS and he has some serious filthy shit. I know all about the uber hyped pitching prospects of the past. Stephen Strasburg, Brien Taylor, Paul Wilson, David Clyde. And Pittsburgh could easily fuck this up. But Skenes is a Cy Young award waiting to happen
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Post by Shane Falco on Apr 19, 2024 18:09:34 GMT
Paul Skenes last night for Indianapolis 3.1 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 8 K's. His ERA in four starts, 0.00. 19.1 K/IP. I seen him a few times at last years CWS and he has some serious filthy shit. I know all about the uber hyped pitching prospects of the past. Stephen Strasburg, Brien Taylor, Paul Wilson, David Clyde. And Pittsburgh could easily fuck this up. But Skenes is a Cy Young award waiting to happen Sad thing is in today's world its only a matter of time until his arm blows up. It seems like Tommy John is required at least once to any pitcher that throws hard. Seeing guys get the procedure twice now. Hopefully he can build a career a bit before surgery and it doesn't come at the time he is just about to get paid. If I was a starting pitcher I think I'd be much more inclined to sign those early extensions teams give out to top young players to buy out arbitration years because your arm is literally like a ticking time bomb.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 19, 2024 18:35:01 GMT
Paul Skenes last night for Indianapolis 3.1 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 8 K's. His ERA in four starts, 0.00. 19.1 K/IP. I seen him a few times at last years CWS and he has some serious filthy shit. I know all about the uber hyped pitching prospects of the past. Stephen Strasburg, Brien Taylor, Paul Wilson, David Clyde. And Pittsburgh could easily fuck this up. But Skenes is a Cy Young award waiting to happen Sad thing is in today's world its only a matter of time until his arm blows up. It seems like Tommy John is required at least once to any pitcher that throws hard. Seeing guys get the procedure twice now. Hopefully he can build a career a bit before surgery and it doesn't come at the time he is just about to get paid. If I was a starting pitcher I think I'd be much more inclined to sign those early extensions teams give out to top young players to buy out arbitration years because your arm is literally like a ticking time bomb. When will MLB start to look into why pitching arms explode regularly? There has to be a reason. Starting pitchers now throw as many innings as setup men in the 50's. Modern medicine is light years ahead of what it was 20 years ago. And you can't tell me that modern pitchers throw harder than Randy Johnson, Bob Gibson, Don Drysdale, Bob Feller. Pitchers don't have oddball deliveries like Luis Tiant of Fernando Valenzuela. Carl Hubbell won 253 games and pitched 3590 inning without an injury and threw a fucking Screwball. Grab a ball and try to throw a Screwball (wrist rotating backwards, clockwise for a leftie, counter for a righty). After a few, your elbow starts to ache. King Carl did have arm trouble but not until he was 35. I would think MLB would be hiring orthopedic expert to try and solve this. Of course, the Players Union is blaming the pitch clock.
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Post by Shane Falco on Apr 19, 2024 21:57:06 GMT
Sad thing is in today's world its only a matter of time until his arm blows up. It seems like Tommy John is required at least once to any pitcher that throws hard. Seeing guys get the procedure twice now. Hopefully he can build a career a bit before surgery and it doesn't come at the time he is just about to get paid. If I was a starting pitcher I think I'd be much more inclined to sign those early extensions teams give out to top young players to buy out arbitration years because your arm is literally like a ticking time bomb. When will MLB start to look into why pitching arms explode regularly? There has to be a reason. Starting pitchers now throw as many innings as setup men in the 50's. Modern medicine is light years ahead of what it was 20 years ago. And you can't tell me that modern pitchers throw harder than Randy Johnson, Bob Gibson, Don Drysdale, Bob Feller. Pitchers don't have oddball deliveries like Luis Tiant of Fernando Valenzuela. Carl Hubbell won 253 games and pitched 3590 inning without an injury and threw a fucking Screwball. Grab a ball and try to throw a Screwball (wrist rotating backwards, clockwise for a leftie, counter for a righty). After a few, your elbow starts to ache. King Carl did have arm trouble but not until he was 35. I would think MLB would be hiring orthopedic expert to try and solve this. Of course, the Players Union is blaming the pitch clock.
All I can think of is teaching. Are these kids taught today how to actually pitch or are they just encouraged to go out there and throw gas for 5 innings because you'll get pulled after that to prevent a third time through a batting order? No more are there the likes of a Greg Maddux who relied on the art of pitching. Now, these teams don't seem to have the health of these kids arms in mind. They just chalk it up to an inevitability and not a fault of how they handle them. (Dusty Baker to this day gets blamed for Mark Prior and Kerry Wood blowing out their arms). They just say go out there throw gas for 5 innings because we don't need you to go 7 or 8 anymore. I just think that puts more strain on a pitchers arm. They might not pitch as many innings but that doesn't mean they aren't putting more pressure or strain on their arms. Throwing 100 pitches today imo isn't the same as throwing 100 pitches 20 years ago. 100 pitches 20 years ago pitchers would dial back velocity in order to go longer in games. Today? I think guys are throwing 100 pitches but trying all gas each time with the thought they just need 5 innings. So I think people in charge are not focusing on the right things. We shouldn't just focus on pitch counts but the context beyond the pitch count. Thats all I can come up with. It just has to come down to teaching. Should be teaching these kids throwing 3 pitches and getting a ground out is the same result as a 10 pitch strike out. They're both 1 out, one is just more celebrated and flashy. Teach these kids to pitch and not throw. There is a difference. People just don't seem to want to teach anymore, idk?
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 20, 2024 15:21:43 GMT
Finally, this Jays bunch has embraced its small ball approach to competing. Even last year, they started hacking for the fences - Varsho & Chapman especially. Now it's a RISP/doubles hitting squad trying not to let their pitching down. Thankfully they figured this out in April... & not f'n August.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Apr 21, 2024 6:16:32 GMT
Break up the Mets! YEAH BABY!!
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Apr 21, 2024 6:49:11 GMT
Baltimore got this.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 21, 2024 23:41:48 GMT
I fear the Royals may be the 2016 version of themselves - they went .500 and were extremely streaky. Obviously they didn’t make the postseason, so missing out once again this season would be disappointing.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 22, 2024 0:22:06 GMT
I fear the Royals may be the 2016 version of themselves - they went .500 and were extremely streaky. Obviously they didn’t make the postseason, so missing out once again this season would be disappointing. They're on the track back to respectability. But I don't think they'll make the playoff this year. Apart from C, 1b and SS, the lineup is rag tag circus. Their pitching is a lot better but they still lack pieces.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 22, 2024 4:34:28 GMT
I fear the Royals may be the 2016 version of themselves - they went .500 and were extremely streaky. Obviously they didn’t make the postseason, so missing out once again this season would be disappointing. They're on the track back to respectability. But I don't think they'll make the playoff this year. Apart from C, 1b and SS, the lineup is rag tag circus. Their pitching is a lot better but they still lack pieces. They have the feel of the 2013 Royals, too, I agree. Narrowly miss the playoffs but geared up for a couple years of playoff ball after. If they get on a run near the end of the season, their best bet is probably to just win the mediocre AL Central. But I think you’re probably right and this is going to be a load up year. Still fun for the fans after years of pathetic baseball, though!
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Post by klawrencio79 on Apr 23, 2024 0:45:03 GMT
This is fantastic. One because it happened to the Yankees, but also because it just further shows how soft as baby shit these umpires really are.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 23, 2024 12:50:04 GMT
This is fantastic. One because it happened to the Yankees, but also because it just further shows how soft as baby shit these umpires really are. I hope he gets suspended without pay. Why do baseball umpires have so much power? Watch a football game, the coaches go absolutely berserk after every play, swearing up a storm, the refs just ignore it for the most part. In baseball, if you look at the ump the wrong way, he'll toss you because he didn't get laid last night and he's grumpy. It's bullshit, I can't stand these guys. On the upside, I want to pay someone to sit behind the dugout at Yankee games and do a Boone imitation until he gets tossed from every game. I've never understood why refs can't change that kind of call. We have replay, hell we have discussions between refs in every sport that end up with a call being changed; why can't they do that with ejections? In that clip the ref literally says, "You're probably right," so why not take back the ejection? Also, I'm using a variation of "Let's go, home plate," in all scenarios from now on. They screw up my order at a restaurant, "Let's go, Head Chef." Idiot on the road cuts you off, "Let's go, Prius." Disagree with a minor finding in an industry audit, "Let's go, FAA." How soon can we expect Let's Go, Home Plate t-shirts?
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Post by klawrencio79 on Apr 23, 2024 13:53:24 GMT
This is fantastic. One because it happened to the Yankees, but also because it just further shows how soft as baby shit these umpires really are. I hope he gets suspended without pay. Why do baseball umpires have so much power? Watch a football game, the coaches go absolutely berserk after every play, swearing up a storm, the refs just ignore it for the most part. In baseball, if you look at the ump the wrong way, he'll toss you because he didn't get laid last night and he's grumpy. It's bullshit, I can't stand these guys. On the upside, I want to pay someone to sit behind the dugout at Yankee games and do a Boone imitation until he gets tossed from every game. I've never understood why refs can't change that kind of call. We have replay, hell we have discussions between refs in every sport that end up with a call being changed; why can't they do that with ejections? In that clip the ref literally says, "You're probably right," so why not take back the ejection?Also, I'm using a variation of "Let's go, home plate," in all scenarios from now on. They screw up my order at a restaurant, "Let's go, Head Chef." Idiot on the road cuts you off, "Let's go, Prius." Disagree with a minor finding in an industry audit, "Let's go, FAA." How soon can we expect Let's Go, Home Plate t-shirts? This is something that has irked me for years. The audacity, the stubbornness, the sheer balls these guys have, they truly do believe they are infallible. The very notion of asking of your umpiring crew for their thoughts is so foreign to them, as if even asking the question will immediately reduce them to a pillar of smoldering ash. Naturally, here is what Wendelstadt said afterwards: "Apparently what he said was there was a fan right above the dugout," Wendelstedt said. "This isn't my first ejection. In the entirety of my career, I have never ejected a player or a manager for something a fan has said. I understand that's going to be part of the story or something like that because that's what Aaron was portraying. I heard something come from the far end of the dugout, had nothing to do with his area, but he's the manager of the Yankees. So he's the one that had to go." A normal person would go on there and say "Jeez, you know, I made a mistake, I'm sorry Aaron." And that would be the end of it! But no, "I am right and you are wrong, regardless of the facts" is where we are (and honestly, this is largely where the country is so maybe Hunter is actually right?). Robot umpires can't come here fast enough, seriously.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 23, 2024 14:21:19 GMT
This is fantastic. One because it happened to the Yankees, but also because it just further shows how soft as baby shit these umpires really are.
One of baseball's classiest moments. Jim Joyce didn't have to address the blown call did so right away. And with no excuses. He had the balls to go out and say "I fucked up". And the balls to deal with Armando Galarraga and the Detroit fans the next day. MLB should show this to all umpires and tell them to act like this every day
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Post by Shane Falco on Apr 23, 2024 14:50:22 GMT
This is fantastic. One because it happened to the Yankees, but also because it just further shows how soft as baby shit these umpires really are.
One of baseball's classiest moments. Jim Joyce didn't have to address the blown call did so right away. And with no excuses. He had the balls to go out and say "I fucked up". And the balls to deal with Armando Galarraga and the Detroit fans the next day. MLB should show this to all umpires and tell them to act like this every day
And we all forgave him too. We are all (to an extent) understanding that mistakes happen. We are human. Just owning it and apologizing is by far the easiest and most reasonable way to go. We just live in a world now (maybe its just a USA thing) where admitting you were wrong is some sort of life sentence. Im wrong all the fucking time and will admit it when corrected. These idiots who just double down or refuse to accept they were wrong remind me of toddlers just sticking their fingers in their ears yelling "I can't hear you la la la!"
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 23, 2024 15:58:59 GMT
One of baseball's classiest moments. Jim Joyce didn't have to address the blown call did so right away. And with no excuses. He had the balls to go out and say "I fucked up". And the balls to deal with Armando Galarraga and the Detroit fans the next day. MLB should show this to all umpires and tell them to act like this every day
And we all forgave him too. We are all (to an extent) understanding that mistakes happen. We are human. Just owning it and apologizing is by far the easiest and most reasonable way to go. We just live in a world now (maybe its just a USA thing) where admitting you were wrong is some sort of life sentence. Im wrong all the fucking time and will admit it when corrected. These idiots who just double down or refuse to accept they were wrong remind me of toddlers just sticking their fingers in their ears yelling "I can't hear you la la la!" Funny thing was, Armando Galarraga got more fame by the blown call than he would have in Joyce got the call right. He would have gone into the "They really pitched a perfect?" category with Charlie Robertson, Phillip Humber, Dallas Braden. But now, any fan beyond the casual who hears "perfect game" will probably think of either Galarraga or Don Larsen 1st. Yeah, better names got a perfecto but it's not the first thing that comes to mind when you hear "Koufax", "Bunning", "Catfish".
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Post by Shane Falco on Apr 23, 2024 17:58:39 GMT
And we all forgave him too. We are all (to an extent) understanding that mistakes happen. We are human. Just owning it and apologizing is by far the easiest and most reasonable way to go. We just live in a world now (maybe its just a USA thing) where admitting you were wrong is some sort of life sentence. Im wrong all the fucking time and will admit it when corrected. These idiots who just double down or refuse to accept they were wrong remind me of toddlers just sticking their fingers in their ears yelling "I can't hear you la la la!" Funny thing was, Armando Galarraga got more fame by the blown call than he would have in Joyce got the call right. He would have gone into the "They really pitched a perfect?" category with Charlie Robertson, Phillip Humber, Dallas Braden. But now, any fan beyond the casual who hears "perfect game" will probably think of either Galarraga or Don Larsen 1st. Yeah, better names got a perfecto but it's not the first thing that comes to mind when you hear "Koufax", "Bunning", "Catfish". Very true. Oddly enough I had forgotten all about this until you mentioned it. Id say Galarraga and Joyce's names are likely connected forever in history of baseball. They got more famous good or bad by that call.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 23, 2024 18:26:10 GMT
Funny thing was, Armando Galarraga got more fame by the blown call than he would have in Joyce got the call right. He would have gone into the "They really pitched a perfect?" category with Charlie Robertson, Phillip Humber, Dallas Braden. But now, any fan beyond the casual who hears "perfect game" will probably think of either Galarraga or Don Larsen 1st. Yeah, better names got a perfecto but it's not the first thing that comes to mind when you hear "Koufax", "Bunning", "Catfish". Very true. Oddly enough I had forgotten all about this until you mentioned it. Id say Galarraga and Joyce's names are likely connected forever in history of baseball. They got more famous good or bad by that call. True. I'm trying to come up with other connected names. Teammates (Mantle-Maris, Koufax-Drysdale) or famous home runs (Thomson-Branca, Gibson-Eckersley). Maybe Branch Rickey-Jackie Robinson.
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Post by Shane Falco on Apr 23, 2024 20:43:21 GMT
Very true. Oddly enough I had forgotten all about this until you mentioned it. Id say Galarraga and Joyce's names are likely connected forever in history of baseball. They got more famous good or bad by that call. True. I'm trying to come up with other connected names. Teammates (Mantle-Maris, Koufax-Drysdale) or famous home runs (Thomson-Branca, Gibson-Eckersley). Maybe Branch Rickey-Jackie Robinson.
While not teammates or a home run I will always connect Pedro Martinez to Don Zimmer. While its a shame to one of the best pitchers of his generation ill never get that image of that old fat man trying to charge at him like an idiot and the bewildered look on his face after he got thrown to the ground.
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