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Post by janntosh on Apr 19, 2024 2:45:53 GMT
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ha ha, I am not even a big John Hughes fan (The "makeover" scene in The Breakfast Club is one of the stupidest scenes in movie history and that douchebag Ferris Bueller should have been castrated) but it is fun to see this washed up has been come out every once in a while, to bash her old movies to try and score brownie points.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Apr 19, 2024 2:55:26 GMT
I don't believe that they were too white. I mean, sure they had mostly whites in them. But do that really make them too white?
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Apr 19, 2024 4:46:07 GMT
Well thats just stupid. How is a film too white?
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Post by Hurdy Gurdy Man on Apr 19, 2024 6:46:45 GMT
Had this been the old FG, this thread would have inspired a slew of parody threads such as:
"Molly Ringwald complains her huge boobies are too tight".
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Post by kolchak92 on Apr 19, 2024 9:48:52 GMT
Had this been the old FG, this thread would have inspired a slew of parody threads such as:
"Molly Ringwald complains her huge boobies are too tight".
Lol.
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Post by Captain Spencer on Apr 19, 2024 16:34:27 GMT
Judge Jeanine brought up a very good point, if Molly is so upset about her past movies being "too white" then yes, she should send back her royalties. Otherwise, Molly is just being a complete hypocrite.
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Post by ck100 on Apr 19, 2024 16:37:33 GMT
This is like saying Tyler Perry movies are "too black".
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Post by novastar6 on Apr 19, 2024 22:37:59 GMT
And if you want diversity, you got it. A nerd, a psycho, a princess, a jock, all with their own sets of problems despite their oh so 'privileged' lifestyles of parents who abuse or ignore them.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 19, 2024 22:47:29 GMT
This is like saying Tyler Perry movies are "too black". For 13 fleeting hours I was impressed that no one on here made a reverse racism argument. FWIW, Perry gets his own share of criticism for always having lighter skinned protagonists and darker skinned antagonists.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 20, 2024 0:00:42 GMT
Complaining that a movie is to white, is as idiotic as complaining that a movie is to black or brown.
I wonder if people in India, complains that a movie is to brown.
I rather watch a good movie with zero diversity (it can be all white or all black cast and so on, i don't care) than a bad movie with diversity
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 20, 2024 2:11:01 GMT
India would be worthy of study since it has a huge film industry and various regional groups. Do they go for unified multicultural representation or does everyone do their own thing?
But John Hughes--can you imagine him doing a film where a teacher might get beaten into a coma over a computer game device or student spraying someone with mace because they took their cellphone. Good golly miss Molly, if you were in a more diverse film, you may not make it to the end.
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Post by novastar6 on Apr 20, 2024 2:19:06 GMT
Complaining that a movie is to white, is as idiotic as complaining that a movie is to black or brown. I wonder if people in India, complains that a movie is to brown. I rather watch a good movie with zero diversity (it can be all white or all black cast and so on, i don't care) than a bad movie with diversity
Bottom line. There are ZERO black characters in Scarface, didn't stop it from becoming a staple in hip hop culture. Black people weren't complaining 'Tony Montana don't look like me!'
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 20, 2024 2:47:05 GMT
India would be worthy of study since it has a huge film industry and various regional groups. Do they go for unified multicultural representation or does everyone do their own thing? But John Hughes-- can you imagine him doing a film where a teacher might get beaten into a coma over a computer game device or student spraying someone with mace because they took their cellphone. Good golly miss Molly, if you were in a more diverse film, you may not make it to the end.You did so well in that Bill Cosby thread not taking my bait about the Jews, only to come out a few days later with the most racist shit I've seen on this site. Tisk.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 20, 2024 2:55:59 GMT
You did so well in that Bill Cosby thread not taking my bait about the Jews, only to come out a few days later with the most racist shit I've seen on this site. Tisk. LOL the entire subject of this thread is about race--how do you avoid it?
And how is it racist to point out the drama of diversity in modern schools? It's in the news.
Especially if there is a number advantage--and if there isn't--then the black kid is just tokenism.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 20, 2024 3:15:19 GMT
You did so well in that Bill Cosby thread not taking my bait about the Jews, only to come out a few days later with the most racist shit I've seen on this site. Tisk. LOL the entire subject of this thread is about race--how do you avoid it?
And how is it racist to point out the drama of diversity in modern schools? It's in the news.
Especially if there is a number advantage--and if there isn't--then the black kid is just tokenism.
Automatically presuming a minority student will beat and mace everyone is the kind of racism even the "I just don't like FORCED diversity" people won't touch.
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Post by ghostinthemist on Apr 20, 2024 3:33:31 GMT
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 20, 2024 7:10:41 GMT
Automatically presuming a minority student will beat and mace everyone is the kind of racism even the "I just don't like FORCED diversity" people won't touch. But she's talking about diversity in a high school setting by today's standards. And today's standards are what the mass media talks about with high school diversity. And what is most talked about? An Indian kid winning a spelling bee? No--it's a teacher or student being beaten into a coma by a gang of diversity.
That's the most popular image at the moment.
In the 80s they did have token diversity here and there--it would seem like pandering now--and probably offend diverse majorities as a desperate attempt to relate. You just can't win.
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Post by novastar6 on Apr 20, 2024 7:40:33 GMT
Automatically presuming a minority student will beat and mace everyone is the kind of racism even the "I just don't like FORCED diversity" people won't touch. But she's talking about diversity in a high school setting by today's standards. And today's standards are what the mass media talks about with high school diversity. And what is most talked about? An Indian kid winning a spelling bee? No--it's a teacher or student being beaten into a coma by a gang of diversity.
That's the most popular image at the moment.
In the 80s they did have token diversity here and there--it would seem like pandering now--and probably offend diverse majorities as a desperate attempt to relate. You just can't win.
There's a reason 80s/90s movies will always win, specifically because they are NOT today's standards. Today's standards include 10 year olds beating other students to death, yeah, it's a safe bet nobody's going to come out of a high school jungle alive. Not with all these shining examples.
So yeah, by today's standards, Lord of the Flies would be kindergarten by comparison.
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Post by vegalyra on Apr 20, 2024 18:17:57 GMT
It’s because her films with John Hughes always centered around upper middle to rich kids in the 80s. It wasn’t some typical suburban school in 2024. Heck even the town I grew up in was lower middle class in the 80s and there were very few minorities. The USA in the 80s wasn’t as diverse as it is now.
She needs to watch one of her films she did a cameo in, not another teen movie, although maybe that reinforces her point. Haha.
The token black guy - lm just supposed to stand around and say things like s***, damn, and that is whack”
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Post by Cat on Apr 20, 2024 18:57:14 GMT
29 painful seconds in and it just sounds like she's saying you can't give 5 white kids represent the student body of an American high school today. It's common sense. I agree with her. It's one of my fave movies but I've never not been aware there's more than 5 types of students in a school. That's something you just have to know going in.
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