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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 21, 2024 6:13:39 GMT
Recent Freefolk leak: Events in 6,7&8 are happening faster than I thought.
Corlys accepts position as Hand of the queen.
More Small Council hates women Bullshit.
Ser Steffon Darklyn dies trying to claim a dragon.
Rhaenyra and Jace search for Targ Bastards.
Rhaena tracks wild dragon in mountains of the vale.
Addam/Seasmoke.
More Daemon Harrenhal vision Bullshit.
Daemon executes Willam Blackwood.
Jason Lannister rallies Lannister forces.
Aemond taunts Aegon, this pisses off Alicent.
Elinda and Dyanna start a riot in KL.
Food riot gets out of control.
Smallfolk attack Alicent and Helaena.
Hugh’s daughter dies.
Targaryen bastards get the call from Rhaenyra.
Gold, Glory and Titles, to any bastard who can claim a dragon.
Only thing I’m not sure about is how Alicent leaves KL. She isn’t going to Daeron in oldtown nor with Cole to Harrenhal. 90% sure Alicent goes to dragonstone with Elinda. Hopefully Dyanna is NOT on the same boat as Alicent, Super Awkward. Comparing the best brewed MoonTea.
Aemond reads the inscription on Catspaw to Alicent and she finds out Rhaenyra wasn’t lying. Goes to dragonstone to apologize. Episode 7 is Alicent’s self reflecting episode. She meets Rhaenyra in the finale. Problem is, events are happening fast then I thought.
Second possibility, Alicent/Rhaenyra meeting is in 7 and the two travel together to Harrenhal. Lake scene is actually at gods eye lake. The public screening for episode 7. Is next Friday night at San Diego comic con.
Rumor, Otto goes mud wrestling with Triarchy.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 21, 2024 19:35:37 GMT
Recent Freefolk leak: Events in 6,7&8 are happening faster than I thought.
Corlys accepts position as Hand of the queen.
More Small Council hates women Bullshit.
Ser Steffon Darklyn dies trying to claim a dragon.
Rhaenyra and Jace search for Targ Bastards.
Rhaena tracks wild dragon in mountains of the vale.
Addam/Seasmoke.
More Daemon Harrenhal vision Bullshit.
Daemon executes Willam Blackwood.
Jason Lannister rallies Lannister forces.
Aemond taunts Aegon, this pisses off Alicent.
Elinda and Dyanna start a riot in KL.
Food riot gets out of control.
Smallfolk attack Alicent and Helaena.
Hugh’s daughter dies.
Targaryen bastards get the call from Rhaenyra.
Gold, Glory and Titles, to any bastard who can claim a dragon.
Only thing I’m not sure about is how Alicent leaves KL. She isn’t going to Daeron in oldtown nor with Cole to Harrenhal. 90% sure Alicent goes to dragonstone with Elinda. Hopefully Dyanna is NOT on the same boat as Alicent, Super Awkward. Comparing the best brewed MoonTea.
Aemond reads the inscription on Catspaw to Alicent and she finds out Rhaenyra wasn’t lying. Goes to dragonstone to apologize. Episode 7 is Alicent’s self reflecting episode. She meets Rhaenyra in the finale. Problem is, events are happening fast then I thought.
Second possibility, Alicent/Rhaenyra meeting is in 7 and the two travel together to Harrenhal. Lake scene is actually at gods eye lake. The public screening for episode 7. Is next Friday night at San Diego comic con.
Rumor, Otto goes mud wrestling with Triarchy. Thank you, Leo, that's very interesting. So, Alicent once again heads to Dragonstone to seek Rhaenys' help or to escape.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 22, 2024 1:57:26 GMT
So, Alicent once again heads to Dragonstone to seek Rhaenys' help or to escape. This is when one thinks the leaks are too bad to be true but GoT had the world think that before.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 22, 2024 5:26:03 GMT
First reactions to the episode:
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 22, 2024 6:54:04 GMT
Pretty solid episode, I'd say. I think Aemond had more dialogue here than in the rest of the two seasons, and I'm here for that. As with Ser Criston, this ep has accomplished a similar feat in making Larys sympathetic. Then I'm looking forward to sassy ass Otto coming back. It's insane how much more compelling Team Green is to Team Black at this point, though I will say at least Rhae finally has some interesting stuff to do, namely slap dudes and makeout with women. And I'm excited for the Dragonseeds to enter, though I'm worried the show is writing out Nettles and giving her stuff to Daemon's other daughter, which would truly suck and be one of the most baffling decisions ever - isn't she like the second most popular character in the Dance? Certainly one of my favs. And another example of HBO's disregard for the smallfolk in spite of this ep's title and apparent message.
I don't know where you get your leaks, Leo, but half that stuff didn't happen.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 22, 2024 6:58:21 GMT
Stupid show will really do anything to piss me off
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 22, 2024 7:06:37 GMT
I don't know where you get your leaks, Leo, but half that stuff didn't happen. Freefolk subreddit. I suppose much of it is speculated from trailers and various hints, if not entirely made up. The older source from January seemed to be more accurate: Jason Lannister and Lord Lefford meet at the Golden Tooth. There were leaked images and videos of this scene being filmed.
Addam claims Seasmoke
Dyanna makes another appearance
Andrij Parekh is confirmed to direct this episode.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 22, 2024 7:19:08 GMT
And I'm excited for the Dragonseeds to enter, though I'm worried the show is writing out Nettles and giving her stuff to Daemon's other daughter, which would truly suck and be one of the most baffling decisions ever - isn't she like the second most popular character in the Dance? Certainly one of my favs. And another example of HBO's disregard for the smallfolk in spite of this ep's title and apparent message. Nettles was made redundant by Addam, who has no Targaryen features, and Hugh, who is not presented as a dragonseed (and looks blond rather than silver haired, at least in the first two episodes). So these are there to show that Targaryen descent is not required to bond with a lizard. I assume (before seeing episode 5 & 6) the "blood of the dragon" argument will be presented as a political lie aimed at securing dynastical privilege. Besides, Ulf the White publicly proclaiming being a bastard of Baelon the Brave is another hint that he is making it up (so people buy him drinks to tell more). So that's another probably non-Targaryen on a dragon.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 22, 2024 12:52:15 GMT
And I'm excited for the Dragonseeds to enter, though I'm worried the show is writing out Nettles and giving her stuff to Daemon's other daughter, which would truly suck and be one of the most baffling decisions ever - isn't she like the second most popular character in the Dance? Certainly one of my favs. And another example of HBO's disregard for the smallfolk in spite of this ep's title and apparent message. Nettles was made redundant by Addam, who has no Targaryen features, and Hugh, who is not presented as a dragonseed (and looks blond rather than silver haired, at least in the first two episodes). So these are there to show that Targaryen descent is not required to bond with a lizard. I assume (before seeing episode 5 & 6) the "blood of the dragon" argument will be presented as a political lie aimed at securing dynastical privilege. Besides, Ulf the White publicly proclaiming being a bastard of Baelon the Brave is another hint that he is making it up (so people buy him drinks to tell more). So that's another probably non-Targaryen on a dragon. I remember a common theory being that Addam would be semi-written out, and Seasmoke would return to Laenor who would then pass himself off as a bastard of Corlys named Addam. Can't decide if that'd be too dumb, or at least justify keeping Laenor alive and prevent Nettles from being "redundant". Though I don't really buy that argument anyway, with all the superfluous characters we already have. Team Black, aside from Mysaria and the Targs, is almost exclusively boring old white guys I can't tell apart who sit around saying "hurr we have no army and ur a wo-man" . I fear a more racist explanation was probably that, by making Corlys and his descendants black, they thought they met their diversity quota. Nettles being non-white was another significant thing about her being a dragon rider in the books. There's also the fact that she is instrumental in things that taint Rhae later, and thus far HBO and Condor are maintaining the narrative that Rhae is a girlboss and probably don't want to portray that. #Im With Her I suppose only time will tell if Hugh and Ulf are actually blood of the dragon, but Hugh looks pretty silver haired to me. Also worth noting that these two become villains, so not really good representation.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 22, 2024 14:46:20 GMT
There's also the fact that she is instrumental in things that taint Rhae later, and thus far HBO and Condor are maintaining the narrative that Rhae is a girlboss and probably don't want to portray that. I think this is the reason. Rhaenyra turning on Nettles is the thing that makes her look the worst and it will be left out. HBO know that their paying customers are mostly female so they write an openly misandrist story, knowing that criticism from torrenting nerds will help further.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 22, 2024 21:30:28 GMT
There's also the fact that she is instrumental in things that taint Rhae later, and thus far HBO and Condor are maintaining the narrative that Rhae is a girlboss and probably don't want to portray that. I think this is the reason. Rhaenyra turning on Nettles is the thing that makes her look the worst and it will be left out. HBO know that their paying customers are mostly female so they write an openly misandrist story, knowing that criticism from torrenting nerds will help further. Was that kiss necessary? Rhaenyra never showed interest in women before, but then I read that the actress portraying Rhaenyra wanted to incorporate her real life, thinking it would be a good idea. So, I guess Daemon and Rhaenyra share the same lover. I'm sorry, but this is the kind of content I find too 'woke,' and it seems they are more concerned with that than with telling us the story. Honestly, at this point, I'm not rooting for the Blacks or the Greens.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 22, 2024 21:34:33 GMT
Pretty solid episode, I'd say. I think Aemond had more dialogue here than in the rest of the two seasons, and I'm here for that. As with Ser Criston, this ep has accomplished a similar feat in making Larys sympathetic. Then I'm looking forward to sassy ass Otto coming back. It's insane how much more compelling Team Green is to Team Black at this point, though I will say at least Rhae finally has some interesting stuff to do, namely slap dudes and makeout with women. And I'm excited for the Dragonseeds to enter, though I'm worried the show is writing out Nettles and giving her stuff to Daemon's other daughter, which would truly suck and be one of the most baffling decisions ever - isn't she like the second most popular character in the Dance? Certainly one of my favs. And another example of HBO's disregard for the smallfolk in spite of this ep's title and apparent message. I don't know where you get your leaks, Leo, but half that stuff didn't happen. Larys is only being kind to Aegon in hopes of being made Hand of the King once Aegon reclaims his throne. I must admit, seeing Aegon in such pain elicited sympathy from me; he reminded me of his father, Viserys.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 22, 2024 21:51:20 GMT
Pretty solid episode, I'd say. I think Aemond had more dialogue here than in the rest of the two seasons, and I'm here for that. As with Ser Criston, this ep has accomplished a similar feat in making Larys sympathetic. Then I'm looking forward to sassy ass Otto coming back. It's insane how much more compelling Team Green is to Team Black at this point, though I will say at least Rhae finally has some interesting stuff to do, namely slap dudes and makeout with women. And I'm excited for the Dragonseeds to enter, though I'm worried the show is writing out Nettles and giving her stuff to Daemon's other daughter, which would truly suck and be one of the most baffling decisions ever - isn't she like the second most popular character in the Dance? Certainly one of my favs. And another example of HBO's disregard for the smallfolk in spite of this ep's title and apparent message. I don't know where you get your leaks, Leo, but half that stuff didn't happen. Larys is only being kind to Aegon in hopes of being made Hand of the King once Aegon reclaims his throne. I must admit, seeing Aegon in such pain elicited sympathy from me; he reminded me of his father, Viserys. Yes, but it would appear Larys' tears and oulook as a disabled person were pretty genuine. Unless Larys spent a couple years at castle Juliard studying mummer's farcing with Daniel of house Day-Lewis.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 23, 2024 0:33:19 GMT
I think this is the reason. Rhaenyra turning on Nettles is the thing that makes her look the worst and it will be left out. HBO know that their paying customers are mostly female so they write an openly misandrist story, knowing that criticism from torrenting nerds will help further. Was that kiss necessary? Rhaenyra never showed interest in women before, but then I read that the actress portraying Rhaenyra wanted to incorporate her real life, thinking it would be a good idea. So, I guess Daemon and Rhaenyra share the same lover. I'm sorry, but this is the kind of content I find too 'woke,' and it seems they are more concerned with that than with telling us the story. Honestly, at this point, I'm not rooting for the Blacks or the Greens. It's disheartening to see a man get smacked for attempting to help. As a woman, I find it offensive that women are portrayed in such a manner, as I can assure you not all women are like that. I appreciate and love men; we need them in this world, and there are certain jobs or tasks that are not suited for women.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 23, 2024 0:38:00 GMT
Larys is only being kind to Aegon in hopes of being made Hand of the King once Aegon reclaims his throne. I must admit, seeing Aegon in such pain elicited sympathy from me; he reminded me of his father, Viserys. Yes, but it would appear Larys' tears and oulook as a disabled person were pretty genuine. Unless Larys spent a couple years at castle Juliard studying mummer's farcing with Daniel of house Day-Lewis. I concur that the part where he describes how his family treated him or the struggles he endured, although his father appeared quite kind and his brother was remarkable, is compelling and touching. Perhaps if Larys was mistreated by his family, this might explain his indifference and why he ultimately killed them in the fire. I have a question, Aegon in the book does he suffer burns and becomes disabled?
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 23, 2024 2:31:42 GMT
Honestly, at this point, I'm not rooting for the Blacks or the Greens.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 23, 2024 5:13:20 GMT
Yes, but it would appear Larys' tears and oulook as a disabled person were pretty genuine. Unless Larys spent a couple years at castle Juliard studying mummer's farcing with Daniel of house Day-Lewis. I have a question, Aegon in the book does he suffer burns and becomes disabled? He sure does. About half his body gets crisped, and his armor fused to his skin. He also gets bloated from milk of the poppy.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 23, 2024 5:16:34 GMT
Honestly, at this point, I'm not rooting for the Blacks or the Greens. I think the memes are the only reason I've been putting up with Daemon's Luigi's Mansion let's play.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 23, 2024 19:57:46 GMT
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jul 23, 2024 19:58:55 GMT
I have a question, Aegon in the book does he suffer burns and becomes disabled? He sure does. About half his body gets crisped, and his armor fused to his skin. He also gets bloated from milk of the poppy. Another question: did he recover? I mean, did he appear as his former self again, or did he age like Viserys did in his later years?
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