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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 8, 2017 22:02:45 GMT
Ok cool... but let's try to just stick to MCU movies + WW. Adding in other movies makes it more complicated. Anyway, are you saying you rank WW along the very bottom of MCU movies? Yeah I just did that for comparison.
Keeping in mind I find every MCU movie to be good and WW to be good as well, but nearly all of them are at least slightly more carefully thought out, which is what I look for. WW has a few notable lazy moments like the ending. I have both a higher respect for the overall craftsmanship of those films and would watch any of them again first.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 8, 2017 22:23:24 GMT
Well, Wonder Woman's RT rating is in the top 3 superhero movies ever made (along with The Dark Knight and Logan). I would have to agree. I rank Wonder Woman ahead of every MCU film. As for ranking the MCU films, it's hard to rank them since most of them are the same. While you have been very vague about it so far... I am starting to think that you might not like the Marvel Films and only like the DC Films. I hope that is an accurate statement. That would be inaccurate. I liked X2: X-Men United, X-Men: First Class, and X-Men: Apocalypse. I also liked Fantastic Four (the 2005 version starring Ioan Gruffeld and Jessica Alba; the 2015 reboot was just awful).
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 8, 2017 22:59:54 GMT
While you have been very vague about it so far... I am starting to think that you might not like the Marvel Films and only like the DC Films. I hope that is an accurate statement. That would be inaccurate. I liked X2: X-Men United, X-Men: First Class, and X-Men: Apocalypse. I also liked Fantastic Four (the 2005 version starring Ioan Gruffeld and Jessica Alba; the 2015 reboot was just awful). In short, you admit you don't like anything from MCU?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 23:01:03 GMT
WW MCU
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 9, 2017 1:11:31 GMT
That would be inaccurate. I liked X2: X-Men United, X-Men: First Class, and X-Men: Apocalypse. I also liked Fantastic Four (the 2005 version starring Ioan Gruffeld and Jessica Alba; the 2015 reboot was just awful). In short, you admit you don't like anything from MCU? He likes movies that aren't a threat to DC. That's why he dislikes anything made by the MCU.
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Post by charzhino on Jun 9, 2017 10:35:37 GMT
Top 6 1. Avengers Assemble 2. Winter Soldier 3. The First Avenger 4. Wonder Woman 5. GotG vol 2 6. Ironman 1 The rest of the MCU is straight up recycled garbage. Tell me how Ant-Man is exactly the same as Civil War. Underdeveloped villain with a contrived master plans, protagonists take light hearted approach throughout the films, inconsistent logic just to set up action set pieces, intentional goofiness at dramatic times, usual forced set up for future films and in the end the heros dont seem to have gone through much as the villains are easily defeated. You know, the classic Marvel Formula.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 9, 2017 12:03:02 GMT
Tell me how Ant-Man is exactly the same as Civil War. Underdeveloped villain with a contrived master plans, protagonists take light hearted approach throughout the films, inconsistent logic just to set up action set pieces, intentional goofiness at dramatic times, usual forced set up for future films and in the end the heros dont seem to have gone through much as the villains are easily defeated. You know, the classic Marvel Formula. I feel so bad for you that you're missing out on how great the MCU is.
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Post by charzhino on Jun 9, 2017 12:13:32 GMT
I feel so bad for you that you're missing out on how great the MCU is. Phase 1 was great and Winter Soldier. The rest is very middling.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 9, 2017 12:33:10 GMT
I feel so bad for you that you're missing out on how great the MCU is. Phase 1 was great and Winter Soldier. The rest is very middling. The rest is awesome. I'm not just trolling you, I really would hate to be missing out on this. I'm so sorry you're not enjoying how great it is.
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Post by miike80 on Jun 9, 2017 12:34:58 GMT
Underdeveloped villain with a contrived master plans, protagonists take light hearted approach throughout the films, inconsistent logic just to set up action set pieces, intentional goofiness at dramatic times, usual forced set up for future films and in the end the heros dont seem to have gone through much as the villains are easily defeated. You know, the classic Marvel Formula. I feel so bad for you that you're missing out on how great the MCU is. You'll defend even Freddie got fingered if it had the Marvel logo on it
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 9, 2017 12:35:47 GMT
I feel so bad for you that you're missing out on how great the MCU is. You'll defend even Freddie got fingered if it had the Marvel logo on it Or it's just awesome and doesn't need defending. Best comic book run of all time, probably ever, and I love it. I would really really hate to be sitting around finding things to bitch about with it. It's awesome stuff, top to bottom.
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Post by miike80 on Jun 9, 2017 12:43:37 GMT
For you and some other 5 fanboys that will eat anything Marvel throws at you.
I'm glad you're excited and love those movies. i am also excited about some movies that not everybody loves. But you know what i don't do? i don't try to convince everyone to love them and get upset when people don't
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Post by Larcen26 on Jun 9, 2017 13:21:54 GMT
To defend Charzino a little...I also ranked Ant-Man higher than Civil War.
But I am far from feeling that the Marvel films are bland or middling across the board...they are great entertainment, but I felt Civil War was overrated.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 14:20:06 GMT
Tell me how Ant-Man is exactly the same as Civil War. Underdeveloped villain with a contrived master plans, protagonists take light hearted approach throughout the films, inconsistent logic just to set up action set pieces, intentional goofiness at dramatic times, usual forced set up for future films and in the end the heros dont seem to have gone through much as the villains are easily defeated. You know, the classic Marvel Formula. Everything you just said is purely subjective. Also a lot of these can be applied to many stories(yes, including your precious X Men movies).
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Post by charzhino on Jun 9, 2017 14:31:08 GMT
Everything you just said is purely subjective. Also a lot of these can be applied to many stories(yes, including your precious X Men movies). Actually you can't and thats what separates the MCU from other properties.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 14:48:17 GMT
Everything you just said is purely subjective. Also a lot of these can be applied to many stories(yes, including your precious X Men movies). Actually you can't and thats what separates the MCU from other properties. No, MCU is just as good as X Men in my opinion no matter how you attempt to claim MCU are the same. Look I understand you have a bias against the MCU but one thing that remains true is that it's all subjective.
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Post by charzhino on Jun 9, 2017 15:05:14 GMT
Actually you can't and thats what separates the MCU from other properties. No, MCU is just as good as X Men in my opinion no matter how you attempt to claim MCU are the same. Look I understand you have a bias against the MCU but one thing that remains true is that it's all subjective. Fair enough, it is subjective. But I don't have a bias against the MCU, I just said a few posts ago that I think phase 1 of the MCU and Cap 2 is great.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 9, 2017 18:29:12 GMT
Tell me how Ant-Man is exactly the same as Civil War. Underdeveloped villain with a contrived master plans, protagonists take light hearted approach throughout the films, inconsistent logic just to set up action set pieces, intentional goofiness at dramatic times, usual forced set up for future films and in the end the heros dont seem to have gone through much as the villains are easily defeated. You know, the classic Marvel Formula. Zemo's plan was less contrived than Joker in Dark Knight, there wasn't much light-hearted in Civil War, the logic was more consistent than most other CBMs, they don't forget that levity is always present in like, they care about future films which is more than Fox can say, and by the end of CW the villain more or less won. Ant-Man ended with him re-establishing relations with his family do I don't know what you're getting at. Really, you can apply plenty of this to other movies. Marvels' "formula" is simply...success.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 17:56:45 GMT
Too lazy to rank all the MCU movies so I'll just do a top ten with WW
1) Iron Man 2) TWS 3) CW 4) Avengers 5) WW 6) Doctor Strange 7) TFA 8) IM2 9) AoU 10) Thor
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Post by thenewnexus on Jun 11, 2017 19:09:12 GMT
I'll Admit I enjoyed the movie a little more than I thought I would,but stilled flawed Gadot is still miscast and the guy playing Aries was too. All in All this movie would be a step in the right direction,but JL will shit on this film. Back to the top its better than Dr Strange Iron Man 3 Antman Guardians Series
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