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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 11, 2017 18:22:46 GMT
tpfkar You are ever unconcerned in veracity in you solemn quest. As will as in the gobs unintentional absurd irony you regularly unblushingly deposit, of course. previously on free willyReport him, mic.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 18:23:34 GMT
tpfkar You are ever unconcerned in veracity in you solemn quest. As will as in the gobs unintentional absurd irony you regularly unblushingly deposit, of course. previously on free willyReport him, mic. I'm not reporting anyone.
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 11, 2017 18:26:55 GMT
tpfkar These idiot threads of yours are against IMDb rules, but since you're "gay" it will be condoned.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 11, 2017 18:31:19 GMT
I'm not reporting anyone. That's too bad, and a waste of the report feature.
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 11, 2017 18:31:58 GMT
tpfkar To our desires as informed by our preferences and traits, of course. The demand for amorphous traitlessness is pure rambling nonsense fueled by desperation for a cause. I don't know what abilities ants and dolphins have to override what we consider the baser instincts, but we seem to be surprised by how much some on the continuum do have with each new research into the matter that comes out. Can neuroscience understand Donkey Kong?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 18:39:28 GMT
tpfkar To our desires as informed by our preferences and traits, of course. The demand for amorphous traitlessness is pure rambling nonsense fueled by desperation for a cause. I don't know what abilities ants and dolphins have to override what we consider the baser instincts, but we seem to be surprised by how much some on the continuum do have with each new research into the matter that comes out. Can neuroscience understand Donkey Kong?If ants can only abide by their baser instincts, then that is only because they have a less complex brains than humans. But they do act in accordance to their desires as informed by their preferences and traits, the same as humans do. The fact that humans do not only act in accordance with basic instincts is evidence only of the complex array of inputs and the sophistication of the mechanism processing those inputs; not evidence of some kind of 'ghost in the machine'.
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Post by gadreel on Jun 11, 2017 18:39:30 GMT
I would not bother, Blade is clearly a five star idiot. No, you're a five star idiot. Clearly. And you're clearly not a Christian either, thanks for you input you gibbering monkey, nice of you to swing out an insult when you run away from every conversation you could have. What makes you say I am not a Christian?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 18:41:36 GMT
tpfkar I simply do not believe in freely lying to push truths. That's just another form of zealotry. previously on free willyYes, I know that you have an emotional attachment to "free will" and that makes you regard any evidence to the contrary as being a lie. In that respect, you're the same as Erjen or Ada or any of the other theists. But that's the problem. You can't overcome arguments based on emotional attachment using other arguments based on emotional attachment. It is you who has an emotional attachment to the idea there's no free will mic. You subscribe to this philosophy because it gives you an "out" for where you find yourself in life. You can lie to yourself and say that the life choices you made and your appallingly negative attitude didn't lead you to become the wretch of human being you are,instead it was predetermined and you were programmed to behave this way. All self serving bullshit to abdicate responsibility for your own behaviour and actions. The monumental hubris you've displayed on this thread has been breathtaking. You have actually projected your delusions and damaged psyche onto the entire human fucking race. So if Mic can see no point in living and hates his life because of all the suffering he's endured then the rest of humanity must feel as he does. I love my life and my daughter is the best thing that ever happened to me. Nothing will ever change that. I had someone I know kill himself he wasn't sick or ill just depressed and what a waste that was. One things for damned sure I wouldn't let you be around people like him in a million years.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 11, 2017 18:42:44 GMT
No, you're a five star idiot. Clearly. And you're clearly not a Christian either, thanks for you input you gibbering monkey, nice of you to swing out an insult when you run away from every conversation you could have. What makes you say I am not a Christian? What makes you say you are? On the old board I had a hell of a time just getting you to capitalize the word.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 18:42:58 GMT
Yes, I know that you have an emotional attachment to "free will" and that makes you regard any evidence to the contrary as being a lie. In that respect, you're the same as Erjen or Ada or any of the other theists. But that's the problem. You can't overcome arguments based on emotional attachment using other arguments based on emotional attachment. It is you who has an emotional attachment to the idea there's no free will mic. So if free will exists, how does that work then? You choose which thoughts to think before thinking them?
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 11, 2017 18:48:34 GMT
tpfkar Sorry, but that simplism keeps biting you in the deathwish. Arbitrary complexity means little compared to the form of it. And you can imply all animals are just like humans as often as you want to elicit giggles. We certainly seem to have freedom to chose and steer according to who we are and what we want, and certainly nothing has overridden that to date regardless of how much you fret that it interferes with your bungled lunges at religion. previously on free willy
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 18:52:27 GMT
It is you who has an emotional attachment to the idea there's no free will mic. So if free will exists, how does that work then? You choose which thoughts to think before thinking them? Listen mate I have no intention of going round the houses with you as you regurgitate that nihilistic navel gazing claptrap you've been spouting for years. I'm saying free will exists because I use it everyday. You of course can't contradict that statement using definitive evidence End of. I leave you with the words of Andy Dufresne from the Shawshank Redemption "Get busy living or get busy dying"
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Post by gadreel on Jun 11, 2017 19:12:04 GMT
thanks for you input you gibbering monkey, nice of you to swing out an insult when you run away from every conversation you could have. What makes you say I am not a Christian? What makes you say you are? On the old board I had a hell of a time just getting you to capitalize the word. You are the one making a claim, why am I not a Christian according to you?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 19:14:04 GMT
I'm saying free will exists because I use it everyday. And how have you been able to divine the difference between actual free will and acting in accordance with your nature and preferences? Do you ever experience the sensation of deliberating on which thoughts you are going to think before thinking them; which preferences to prefer before preferring them? What you're saying is essentially no difference from a theist saying "we're all God's creations", and your assertion only works for as long as you don't dig down any deeper to try and figure out what "free will" actually is. Because if you did attempt to examine it, you would find that it is impossible to arrive at a coherent and meaningful definition of "free will". There is abundant evidence, and determinism is rapidly becoming a matter of scientific consensus. www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/theres-no-such-thing-as-free-will/480750/
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 19:15:08 GMT
tpfkar We certainly seem to have freedom to chose and steer according to who we are and what we want previously on free willyYes, and I watch my cats do the same all of the time.
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 11, 2017 19:16:21 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 11, 2017 19:17:39 GMT
What makes you say you are? On the old board I had a hell of a time just getting you to capitalize the word. You are the one making a claim, why am I not a Christian according to you? I regard Man to be in a fallen state, and Christ is the Savior. Do you believe this as well?
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Post by gadreel on Jun 11, 2017 19:23:19 GMT
You are the one making a claim, why am I not a Christian according to you? I regard Man to be in a fallen state, and Christ is the Savior. Do you believe this as well? Why are you not answering my question.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 19:24:59 GMT
If our thoughts constitute an automatic process, then we are not directing them with our will.
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 11, 2017 19:25:35 GMT
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