X-Men: The Dark Phoenix

The movie. The movie!!! When making the Wonder Woman movie they remade Captain America: First Avenger. The Wonder Woman movie came out this year. How did it come out before Captain America First Avenger?

When making Logan they just remade The Wolverine. It's the same movie in a different setting. Wolverine living in the middle of nowhere is brought back into the fold and goes on the run with a young female. His healing factor is stripped away from him and he has to go through the movie with it on low setting or ignoring the pain entirely. Both movies has a young woman skilled in blades, a scientist, and a villain made from him. The only thing Logan took from Old Man Logan was the old man part.
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Oh boy, Logan is so good that the Dismarvel non likers have to change the arc of the film. hell yeah.


Interesting, but can we stick to the facts while backing it up on the canon marvel story and the real event of the movies.

In wolverine, Logan was not in the middle of nowhere, he was living as a hermit in Yukon with a mission, trying to get all disciplined while mourning for the death of jean after X3. This is not in Logan and that is fact. If I am wrong do link me the correct thing as in the Logan plot. surely if you are right, you can bring all the evidence because I am bringing mine.

Facts: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wolverine_(film)#Plot

His healing powers are gone, which was one of the major plot points in the death of wolverine/old man logan.

Facts: moviepilot.com/p/logan-wolverine-powers-disappearing-but-how/4112406

I think this is why he died in the comics and movie. he is alive after the wolverine, all getting better.

Both ladies  already existed in the comics’ but with major difference in story origins and mission. The chick in the wolverine is a trained samurai who fights with a sword.

X23 is a young child who was experimented on with no control over her fate. Like the comics and not the wolverine movie, Logan is her surrogate dad just like rogue, jubilee and kitty were.

Facts: marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Laura_Kinney_(Earth-616)

The only thing similar to both movies is that males and females are in it.

But many comic films tend to be similar and they get infamous for it because they are basically the same. This is an example, I am sure you can agree with thanks to your take on wolverine and logan



I think this discussion will be more cool if everyone was saying facts but sadly this is the burden X-Men movies have to carry because they are the best of the comic book bunch. their other marvel counterparts lovers can't even say the simple truth about the  plot of the films.

What I'm saying is the same thing I've said about how Singer does his X-men movies.  You find the stories that cater to you.  If they were going to do a 3rd movie, how much you got that they would have used those same things?

Loving this game, oh mine, this is so soothing as an X-Fan. Is not still in the middle of know where. Here is the dictionary of the middle of know-where, dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/in-the-middle-of-nowhere

far away from any towns and cities and where few people live.

That does not describe Logan in wolverine, as he was living in  Yukon among people but on his own because he was taking time to mourn to the death of Jean. Reminds me of that Journey song...she took the midnight train going anywhere. Logan was not going anywhere he was going to Yukon and he knew it.

His healing factor was gone in wolverine, and partially gone in Logan like the comic books of old man logan, reason he died.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_Logan#Film

Elements of Old Man Logan were incorporated into the 2013 film The Wolverine. Much like the aftermath of Wolverine killing the X-Men in the original story, Logan is consumed with guilt and depression following the death of Jean Grey and has apparently refrained from popping his claws for several years at the start of the film.
Old Man Logan was an inspiration for the 2017 film Logan, the character's final appearance in the X-Men film series and Hugh Jackman's ninth and final on-screen portrayal of the character.[38] While featuring an original premise, the film likewise features an aging Logan in a bleak alternate future after the deaths of his fellow X-Men (their deaths in this series implied to be due to Professor X suffering a psychic seizure due to old age) where he suffers a degrading healing factor.


Weird huh? that was just like the comics. no offence  and this is not an insult to you, but are you going blind when the source material is shown to you? you seem to be  ignoring it so desperately. Interesting there are two young women in both films, like many other films but The chick in the wolverine is not young, she is an adult in her late 20s or early 30s. Laura is a child who has not even reached puberty.

Really Laura is a young woman? shall we check the facts. Kids are between 7-12, that is laura's age. a young woman is usually late teens-mid 35. Yukio in T.W, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood

If I remember with X23 who first appeared in evolution not the comics, she is on the run, with the people that want to kidnap her on her trail and Logan is forced to protect her. So that is the source material of Laura. An episode called X23 and Target X.  Nothing to do with the wolverine. Facts: x-menevolution.wikia.com/wiki/X-23


I do hope you can see and read this. So basically Logan just told X23 origins from evolution.  You know what is weirder, notice you can’t actually proof what you are saying.  they say you win a just court case by the hard evidence and actual facts. You don’t win by making things up or lieing deliberately. if you sadly want to see an obvious repetition of movies, please watch the comic films were cities are levelled  all the time at the very end for no real reason.  A film like Logan that even some critics compared it to Citizen Cain, trust me had it been a flat out repeat of wolverine, that will be the first thing they would have called out. You know....like what is happening now with Thor3/GOTG.  Do Pay attention to the source material next time.

Can we have more fun here please....Us X-Men fans like a better challenge. it was fun arguing over Logan vs TDK as I like both.
It is not fun debating with mcu fans and their movies, we spend too much time cleaning up their shit and exposing their laughable lies. As I always said, none of this will be happening if marvel just made serious comic book movies that carry substance like Logan or DOFP.

Speaking of dark phoenix and comic book movies, maybe if dark phoenix fails, as an X-Fan, black panther will be my comfort food, afterall black panther has told us they are getting inspired by the xmen movies so they can be more compelling. they even have an X-Men plot in the movie.

www.digitalspy.com/movies/black-panther/news/a833914/black-panther-michael-b-jordan-x-men-plot-chadwick-boseman/

But don't worry, I will not stoop low and say B.P is a rip off of X-Men , I don't need too. I may just kill two birds with one stone in 2018. Sorry guys but I have little faith in this movie and I hate the director. I have a feeling new mutants will be the best of 2018. the Logan of 2018. We need more Logans, we don't need more cgi fun comedies.

What's worse is that he spelled "Citizen Kane" wrong.

I think Logan was called, The citizen kane of CBMs, not that it is of the quality of Citizen Kane (which is a overrated film anyway).

Even if it does have a similar plot to The Wolverine like GuySon says (I would say it loosely does), thats not what makes Logan a standout unique film. Its different from other X-films, mainly because there's no "humans hate/fear mutants" plot thats driving the movie. Even in The Wolverine a major subplot was that Shinjen hated mutants which drove him putting a hit on his daughter and trying to kill Wolverine and Yukio. We dont see this narrative in Logan.

And its different from other comic book films because it doesn't follow their traditional tropes of heros fight each other/villain wants to take over/heros unite/CGI fight at the end (and thats a big difference to The Wolverine). Logan is a character study and has a definitive book end, a rare commodity in CBMs today. And its R rated.

True, that was the point of the comparison. I never said it was C.K but the elements of the film uses the same approach as C.K  did that worked well. That was the critique here.

Sadly when some only enjoy comic films with jokes and cgi. it is too weird for them that some comic book movies will remind others of C.K. I hope they know C.K  was made by humans with flaws same as Logan. serious compelling movies are easy to make, MCU movies just cannot go there, its jokes, jokes, jokes.

It doesn't...at all. All Logan offered was him dying in the end.