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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jun 13, 2017 2:49:19 GMT
How do you figure? Because Wonder Woman got in the top 3? Good for them! Doesn't necessarily negate how bad BvS or Suicide Squad was. None of their other ones are even in the Top 10, let alone probably the Top 50. Must be biased, paid critics, right?? The MCU has four movies in the Top 10 tho. MCU has had 15 movies while DCEU has had only 4 movies so MCU will have more on the list. But Wonder Woman is #2 behind only Logan and no MCU movies are in the top 3. So the general consensus agrees with my list of MCU movies that Wonder Woman is better than. And they've been successful just about every time, most of them, if not all (I would have to check again) managing to make it into the Top 50. Who cares if Wonder Woman is the top 3. They could be anywhere in the Top 50, but it doesn't change the fact that it took them four tries to do it. Iron Man did it on its first try. Not to mention, Iron Man was a C-list character that at the time, no one would have really had any business seeing it. Everyone knows who Wonder Woman is, even the casual movie goer and non-comic book reader do as well. And this can and should be said for Batman and Superman. There's no doubt DC heroes were always the most popular, even to the non-comic book reader, so I see no reason why the DCEU couldn't get any of their films besides Wonder Woman even into the Top 50. They have the fan base and the material. Iron Man didn't and really, the majority of Marvel heroes (especially Guardians) we had never had the exposure or fame at the time when they were made like DC. But even then, if you're on the Top 50, even the Top 10, then your movie is great. Iron Man is a 103% while Wonder Woman is 106. You're practically comparing apple and oranges here. They're both equally great in their own rights. Yeah, the most Marvel or DC fanboys (like yourself) will be biased towards the opposition, but between everyone else, it just comes down to personal preference.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 13, 2017 3:03:30 GMT
Dude, Iron Man is number 4. Marvel got in the top 5 with their first movie. It took DC three tries. Doesn't matter if MCU did it with their first movie. The only thing that matters is DCEU has done it better.
Magic Johnson won an NBA Championship in his rookie season. It took Michael Jordan until his 7th season to win an NBA Championship. But Jordan finished his career with more NBA championships than Magic and Jordan is considered the greatest basketball player ever.
What matters is consistent quality, something the MCU has got better than DCEU.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 13, 2017 3:15:02 GMT
Iron Man was a C-list character that at the time, no one would have really had any business seeing it. Everyone knows who Wonder Woman is, even the casual movie goer and non-comic book reader do as well. And this can and should be said for Batman and Superman. There's no doubt DC heroes were always the most popular, even to the non-comic book reader, so I see no reason why the DCEU couldn't get any of their films besides Wonder Woman even into the Top 50. They have the fan base and the material. Iron Man didn't and really, the majority of Marvel heroes (especially Guardians) we had never had the exposure or fame at the time when they were made like DC. That's a weak excuse. It would be like other NBA teams complaining that Golden State is so good because they have Kevin Durant and Steph Curry and many talented players or complaining that Cleveland is so good because they have LeBron James. Golden State and Cleveland got those good players because they did a good job of scouting and drafting and also singing free agents. It's not Golden State's fault or Cleveland's fault that other teams couldn't scout or draft as well. Likewise, it's not DC's fault that Marvel's superheroes were so lame that they were C-listers. Iron Man is a 103% while Wonder Woman is 106. You're practically comparing apple and oranges here. They're both equally great in their own rights. I believe the title of this thread is "Marvel films I think Wonder Woman is better than". Isn't 106 better than 103? most Marvel or DC fanboys (like yourself) will be biased towards the opposition, but between everyone else, it just comes down to personal preference. This list of the 50 "Best Superhero Movies of All-Time" isn't compiled by DC fans. It's compiled by RT from the adjusted scores of critics' reviews.
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Post by Stuart "2-D" Pot on Jun 13, 2017 8:52:55 GMT
Iron Man was a C-list character that at the time, no one would have really had any business seeing it. Everyone knows who Wonder Woman is, even the casual movie goer and non-comic book reader do as well. And this can and should be said for Batman and Superman. There's no doubt DC heroes were always the most popular, even to the non-comic book reader, so I see no reason why the DCEU couldn't get any of their films besides Wonder Woman even into the Top 50. They have the fan base and the material. Iron Man didn't and really, the majority of Marvel heroes (especially Guardians) we had never had the exposure or fame at the time when they were made like DC. That's a weak excuse. It would be like other NBA teams complaining that Golden State is so good because they have Kevin Durant and Steph Curry and many talented players or complaining that Cleveland is so good because they have LeBron James. Golden State and Cleveland got those good players because they did a good job of scouting and drafting and also singing free agents. It's not Golden State's fault or Cleveland's fault that other teams couldn't scout or draft as well. Likewise, it's not DC's fault that Marvel's superheroes were so lame that they were C-listers. Iron Man is a 103% while Wonder Woman is 106. You're practically comparing apple and oranges here. They're both equally great in their own rights. I believe the title of this thread is "Marvel films I think Wonder Woman is better than". Isn't 106 better than 103? most Marvel or DC fanboys (like yourself) will be biased towards the opposition, but between everyone else, it just comes down to personal preference. This list of the 50 "Best Superhero Movies of All-Time" isn't compiled by DC fans. It's compiled by RT from the adjusted scores of critics' reviews. DC-Fan continues to ramble like an idiot about a professional point. How sad
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Post by furiousstyles77 on Jun 13, 2017 12:49:02 GMT
a list dominated by Marvel films MCU has had 15 movies while DCEU has had only 4 movies so MCU will have more on the list. But Wonder Woman is #2 behind only Logan and no MCU movies are in the top 3. So the general consensus agrees with my list of MCU movies that Wonder Woman is better than. DC have made more movies than Marvel , stop using the old DCEU has only 4 movies as an escuse
Superman 1 - 4 Superman Returns Batman Batman Returns Batman Forever Batman v Robin Catwoman The Dark Knight Trilogy BVS Man of Steel Green Latern Wonder Woman Jonah Hex
Thats 18 movies, combine the average rotten tomatoes score and Marvel wins, combine the overall box office and Marvel wins, even with less movies
And that list is not based on the general consencious, its based on the overall RT review, so again you are wrong.
The above has just blown you out of the water , Marvel is crushing DC and the DCEU even though Marvel have made less movies.
Game set match
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Post by charzhino on Jun 13, 2017 15:42:56 GMT
DC have made more movies than Marvel , stop using the old DCEU has only 4 movies The average of the MCU is better and more consistent I agree but if we take the top 50% quartile of each publisher (thats the top 8 movies for MCU and top 9 movies for DC) and do an average score for them it comes out as: MCU: 72 DC: 74 Im using metacritic scores as they are better than RT. So this tells us that MCU are more consistent in their average movie productions however when DC films get it right, they produce higher quality films than MCUs best attempts more consistently.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 18:26:50 GMT
DC have made more movies than Marvel , stop using the old DCEU has only 4 movies The average of the MCU is better and more consistent I agree but if we take the top 50% quartile of each publisher (thats the top 8 movies for MCU and top 9 movies for DC) and do an average score for them it comes out as: MCU: 72 DC: 74 Im using metacritic scores as they are better than RT. So this tells us that MCU are more consistent in their average movie productions however when DC films get it right, they produce higher quality films than MCUs best attempts more consistently. True but that also owes a lot to The Dark Knight and Superman The Movie having extremely high scores. Also by that logic we could technically count X Men, Raimi Spider Man, Amazing Spiderman, Ang Lee's Hulk, Blade and Captain America 1990.Give. they're not MCU but still Marvel same as those DC movies not being part of the DCEU.
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Post by furiousstyles77 on Jun 13, 2017 18:52:24 GMT
The average of the MCU is better and more consistent I agree but if we take the top 50% quartile of each publisher (thats the top 8 movies for MCU and top 9 movies for DC) and do an average score for them it comes out as: MCU: 72 DC: 74 Im using metacritic scores as they are better than RT. So this tells us that MCU are more consistent in their average movie productions however when DC films get it right, they produce higher quality films than MCUs best attempts more consistently. True but that also owes a lot to The Dark Knight and Superman The Movie having extremely high scores. Also by that logic we could technically count X Men, Raimi Spider Man, Amazing Spiderman, Ang Lee's Hulk, Blade and Captain America 1990.Give. they're not MCU but still Marvel same as those DC movies not being part of the DCEU. Let us not compare the DCEU to Marvel when DCEU has made 14 films, the DCEU will never make a film that grosses 1.6 billion , at this rate id be surprised if a DCEU movie even breaks a billion
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 13, 2017 19:38:30 GMT
DC have made more movies than Marvel , stop using the old DCEU has only 4 movies The average of the MCU is better and more consistent I agree but if we take the top 50% quartile of each publisher (thats the top 8 movies for MCU and top 9 movies for DC) and do an average score for them it comes out as: MCU: 72 DC: 74 Im using metacritic scores as they are better than RT. So this tells us that MCU are more consistent in their average movie productions however when DC films get it right, they produce higher quality films than MCUs best attempts more consistently. Would you mind posting what those top 8 and 9 movies are respectively?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 13, 2017 19:48:33 GMT
DC have made more movies than Marvel , stop using the old DCEU has only 4 movies The average of the MCU is better and more consistent I agree but if we take the top 50% quartile of each publisher (thats the top 8 movies for MCU and top 9 movies for DC) and do an average score for them it comes out as: MCU: 72 DC: 74 Im using metacritic scores as they are better than RT. So this tells us that MCU are more consistent in their average movie productions however when DC films get it right, they produce higher quality films than MCUs best attempts more consistently. Agreed, and that's the whole point of this thread titled "Marvel films I think Wonder Woman is better than". DC got it right with Wonder Woman and the general consensus is that Wonder Woman is better than all of MCU's movies.
Basically, we can say that MCU hits for average while DCEU hits for power. MCU might have a higher batting average but all their hits are only singles while DCEU might have a lower batting average but when DCEU gets a hit, it's usually a home run. So the question is which do you prefer, a singles hitter (like a Pete Rose) or a slugger (like a Babe Ruth)? I would choose a Babe Ruth over a Pete Rose.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 13, 2017 19:52:19 GMT
The average of the MCU is better and more consistent I agree but if we take the top 50% quartile of each publisher (thats the top 8 movies for MCU and top 9 movies for DC) and do an average score for them it comes out as: MCU: 72 DC: 74 Im using metacritic scores as they are better than RT. So this tells us that MCU are more consistent in their average movie productions however when DC films get it right, they produce higher quality films than MCUs best attempts more consistently. True but that also owes a lot to The Dark Knight and Superman The Movie having extremely high scores. Also by that logic we could technically count X Men, Raimi Spider Man, Amazing Spiderman, Ang Lee's Hulk, Blade and Captain America 1990.Give. they're not MCU but still Marvel same as those DC movies not being part of the DCEU. The Dark Knight and Superman: The Movie were produced by WB so they still fall under WB. X Men, Raimi Spider Man, Amazing Spiderman, Ang Lee's Hulk, Blade and Captain America 1990 are Marvel characters but those movies were produced by a different studio than MCU so MCU can't take credit for another studios' work.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jun 13, 2017 20:44:59 GMT
The average of the MCU is better and more consistent I agree but if we take the top 50% quartile of each publisher (thats the top 8 movies for MCU and top 9 movies for DC) and do an average score for them it comes out as: MCU: 72 DC: 74 Im using metacritic scores as they are better than RT. So this tells us that MCU are more consistent in their average movie productions however when DC films get it right, they produce higher quality films than MCUs best attempts more consistently. Agreed, and that's the whole point of this thread titled "Marvel films I think Wonder Woman is better than". DC got it right with Wonder Woman and the general consensus is that Wonder Woman is better than all of MCU's movies.
Basically, we can say that MCU hits for average while DCEU hits for power. MCU might have a higher batting average but all their hits are only singles while DCEU might have a lower batting average but when DCEU gets a hit, it's usually a home run. So the question is which do you prefer, a singles hitter (like a Pete Rose) or a slugger (like a Babe Ruth)? I would choose a Babe Ruth over a Pete Rose.
Actually, you missed the point of this thread when I made it. I'm not talking about what critics and the general consensus think of Wonder Woman. I'm not trying to prove its better than all Marvel films because it isn't. I'm just talking about people on here and what they think. But I never said anything a little proving it. Critics and general consensus don't represent every user on here, and they sure the hell don't represent the world. You think it's better than every Marvel film, fair enough, that's your opinion. You're a biased DC jerkoff, so I'd expect nothing less. But just because you're providing links to try and prove WW is better than all Marvel films, doesn't mean you're right. I don't care what that list saids, it mean jackshit really as it all comes down to personal preference. I'd watch the first Iron Man and both Avengers before I'd watch Wonder Woman. Do I really think any are any better or worst than each other?? No, not really, it's just all about preference as they're all well-acted and directed. So don't try and hijack this thread and twist my words around
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 13, 2017 21:19:30 GMT
You think it's better than every Marvel film, fair enough, that's your opinion. And yet, you keep bitching and moaning about it. You're a biased DC jerkoff No, I've already proven that I'm always unbiased and objective. Like I said before, the reviews for Iron Fist weren't good, but I've said many times that Iron Fist wasn't as bad as the reviews and was certainly much better than that boring snoozefest Jessica Jones.
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Post by furiousstyles77 on Jun 13, 2017 21:49:05 GMT
The average of the MCU is better and more consistent I agree but if we take the top 50% quartile of each publisher (thats the top 8 movies for MCU and top 9 movies for DC) and do an average score for them it comes out as: MCU: 72 DC: 74 Im using metacritic scores as they are better than RT. So this tells us that MCU are more consistent in their average movie productions however when DC films get it right, they produce higher quality films than MCUs best attempts more consistently. Agreed, and that's the whole point of this thread titled "Marvel films I think Wonder Woman is better than". DC got it right with Wonder Woman and the general consensus is that Wonder Woman is better than all of MCU's movies.
Basically, we can say that MCU hits for average while DCEU hits for power. MCU might have a higher batting average but all their hits are only singles while DCEU might have a lower batting average but when DCEU gets a hit, it's usually a home run. So the question is which do you prefer, a singles hitter (like a Pete Rose) or a slugger (like a Babe Ruth)? I would choose a Babe Ruth over a Pete Rose.
the majority of marvel films are home runs ? have you seen the RT scores? DCEU has 3 turkeys, id say marvel has 2 in Hulk and Thor 2 , both better than MOS and BVS may i add. Wonder woman get high praise and all of a sudden DCEU is gods gift, get with the program numb nuts, Justice League, Aquaman and the flash will soon bring your world crashing back down to earth
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Post by furiousstyles77 on Jun 13, 2017 21:51:25 GMT
Captain America Winter Solider, Avengers, Civil War and Iron Man are better than Wonder Woman, and according to DCEU fans, RT scores dont count
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Post by charzhino on Jun 14, 2017 8:35:23 GMT
Would you mind posting what those top 8 and 9 movies are respectively? 1. Ironman - 79......Superman II - 87 2. GotG - 76......Superman I - 86 3. Civil War - 75......Dark Knight - 82 4. Dr Strange - 72......TDK Rises - 78 5. Winter Soldier -70......Superman Rtrns- 72 6. Avengers - 69......Batman Begins - 70 7. GotG vol 2 - 67......Batman - 69 8. Cap 1 TFA - 66......Batman Rtrns - 68 .................................9. Watchmen - 55
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