|
|
Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 15, 2017 1:19:37 GMT
And that's your problem. I can't imagine thinking that every movie in a (so far) 15 part franchise is 100% perfect. That's obsessive, and not in a good way. Half the fun is seeing the franchise grow and evolve. It's no different than me saying, "You're wrong for not liking Star Wars. You're just wrong. How can anyone deny how huge of an achievement Star Wars is? You can't deny that Star Wars is great. You can't. What a waste you are for not liking every second of every Star Wars movie." That's what you sound like. And, no, it's not any different. I never thought that someone who loves the MCU as much as I do would be told half the crap you spout to me. I didn't say they were perfect. But that doesn't imply there is something wrong with them either. It's not obsessive, they're just well made and I'm enjoying that. I think somebody what I say get's taken the wrong way or perhaps I state it more aggressively than I should, so for that I apologize.
But you did try to state that DC's films are equally good to MCU phase 1, which I mean come on bro. If you expect that kind of opinion to get the thumbs up, I don't know what to tell you.
Well first of all, I too tend to get more aggressive than I mean to, and tone is hard to pick up on when we're typing, so it's no big deal. Anyway, I only stated that these first FOUR DCEU movies were similar to the first FOUR MCU movies. That's not all of Phase 1. That leaves out two of the best three of that Phase. I'm trying to compare the two to the length that they can so far. They are too different in tone and length to fully compare them yet. That can come after all essential solo movies have been done (basically just Flash and Aquaman now) and JL has been released.
|
|
|
|
Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 15, 2017 1:50:57 GMT
Well first of all, I too tend to get more aggressive than I mean to, and tone is hard to pick up on when we're typing, so it's no big deal. Anyway, I only stated that these first FOUR DCEU movies were similar to the first FOUR MCU movies. That's not all of Phase 1. That leaves out two of the best three of that Phase. I'm trying to compare the two to the length that they can so far. They are too different in tone and length to fully compare them yet. That can come after all essential solo movies have been done (basically just Flash and Aquaman now) and JL has been released. But they aren't similar. It's not even close. That's why I tried to say it's like comparing Spirit of Vengeance to Dark Knight. It's not even close. MCU 1, any 4 movies you like, are miles ahead of what DC has done so far. DC is comparable to the worst 2000's films you can name, not the MCU.
|
|
|
|
Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 15, 2017 2:00:51 GMT
Well first of all, I too tend to get more aggressive than I mean to, and tone is hard to pick up on when we're typing, so it's no big deal. Anyway, I only stated that these first FOUR DCEU movies were similar to the first FOUR MCU movies. That's not all of Phase 1. That leaves out two of the best three of that Phase. I'm trying to compare the two to the length that they can so far. They are too different in tone and length to fully compare them yet. That can come after all essential solo movies have been done (basically just Flash and Aquaman now) and JL has been released. But they aren't similar. It's not even close. That's why I tried to say it's like comparing Spirit of Vengeance to Dark Knight. It's not even close. MCU 1, any 4 movies you like, are miles ahead of what DC has done so far. DC is comparable to the worst 2000's films you can name, not the MCU. They are very similar in my mind. I like BvS, WW, and MoS more than Thor and Iron Man 2 and The Incredible Hulk. Granted, most of those are dead even in my mind, but I still prefer the DC versions. That's about it though. WW is better than a few more, but Marvel is still leaps and bounds better once you get past the first four films. I'm saying that maybe DC can do the same. Or maybe it will burn up in a ball of epic failure like many want it to. I would rather see DC and Marvel duke it out with rivaling movies that make us choose which we like more; because right now it's no competition.
|
|
|
|
Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 15, 2017 2:05:30 GMT
They are very similar in my mind. I like BvS, WW, and MoS more than Thor and Iron Man 2 and The Incredible Hulk. Granted, most of those are dead even in my mind, but I still prefer the DC versions. That's about it though. WW is better than a few more, but Marvel is still leaps and bounds better once you get past the first four films. I'm saying that maybe DC can do the same. Or maybe it will burn up in a ball of epic failure like many want it to. I would rather see DC and Marvel duke it out with rivaling movies that make us choose which we like more; because right now it's no competition. There's nothing to get past with the first four MCU films. They're fine. I don't know how you think what DC has done is even remotely close to those.
|
|
|
|
Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 15, 2017 2:10:54 GMT
They are very similar in my mind. I like BvS, WW, and MoS more than Thor and Iron Man 2 and The Incredible Hulk. Granted, most of those are dead even in my mind, but I still prefer the DC versions. That's about it though. WW is better than a few more, but Marvel is still leaps and bounds better once you get past the first four films. I'm saying that maybe DC can do the same. Or maybe it will burn up in a ball of epic failure like many want it to. I would rather see DC and Marvel duke it out with rivaling movies that make us choose which we like more; because right now it's no competition. There's nothing to get past with the first four MCU films. They're fine. I don't know how you think what DC has done is even remotely close to those. The MCU has gotten better as it went on. I was saying that I hope DC is the same way. And yes, I agree that SS was awful, but I like the other three. The other three have blind ambition. That's respectable. That's why they get the edge.
|
|
|
|
Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 15, 2017 2:20:43 GMT
The MCU has gotten better as it went on. I was saying that I hope DC is the same way. And yes, I agree that SS was awful, but I like the other three. The other three have blind ambition. That's respectable. That's why they get the edge. You're on your own with that one. I don't see any blind ambition, I see utterly incompetent writing. I have zero respect for MOS and BVS. I could have written better when I was 10.
|
|
|
|
Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 15, 2017 2:22:50 GMT
The MCU has gotten better as it went on. I was saying that I hope DC is the same way. And yes, I agree that SS was awful, but I like the other three. The other three have blind ambition. That's respectable. That's why they get the edge. You're on your own with that one. I don't see any blind ambition, I see utterly incompetent writing. I have zero respect for MOS and BVS. I could have written better when I was 10. Ya I'm sure.
|
|
|
|
Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 15, 2017 2:31:08 GMT
You're on your own with that one. I don't see any blind ambition, I see utterly incompetent writing. I have zero respect for MOS and BVS. I could have written better when I was 10. Ya I'm sure. It's pretty bad. I mean you can't really expect anybody to give respect to an opinion that MOS, BVS, and SS are better than IM, Hulk, and IM2. Come on man. That's a joke.
|
|
|
|
Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 15, 2017 5:05:28 GMT
It's pretty bad. I mean you can't really expect anybody to give respect to an opinion that MOS, BVS, and SS are better than IM, Hulk, and IM2. Come on man. That's a joke. So I guess you're just illiterate now? I clearly stated that I liked BvS, MoS, and WW more than The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, and Thor. I never said that I like them more than Iron Man. Iron Man is my favorite of the entire bunch. I also stated several times (to you directly) how awful I thought SS was and how it was not comparable to any of these other films. Did I spell that out clearly enough for you now?
|
|
|
|
Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 15, 2017 5:10:07 GMT
So I guess you're just illiterate now? I clearly stated that I liked BvS, MoS, and WW more than The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, and Thor. I never said that I like them more than Iron Man. Iron Man is my favorite of the entire bunch. I also stated several times (to you directly) how awful I thought SS was and how it was not comparable to any of these other films. Did I spell that out clearly enough for you now? Add the 2 to my previous post and read it again. It still applies. Is that clear enough for you?
I'm not getting pissy, so relax. It's just that there's no debate here, the DC offering aren't close to the quality of the films you're trying to equate them to.
|
|
|
|
Post by Tristan's Journal on Jun 15, 2017 7:56:48 GMT
Did not care for either film, too generic and derivative. But as a concept and character Antman seemed a little bit more interesting, though I am not sure if the joke runs old quickly.
|
|
|
|
Post by Tristan's Journal on Jun 15, 2017 8:14:56 GMT
Well, there are more movies besides comic-book movies and blockbusters. i take what i like from comic book movies, and don't care if it's DC or Marvel or whatever.not everybody is counting the days untill the next comic-book movie. I for one, do not care about the 78th reboot of Spiderman or the third Thor. I am however curious about Infinity Wars and Justice League Great. You're not one of the fandom then, which is fine. I'm not really a Star War person.
But I wouldn't come into a Star Wars chat room and say I didn't like the movies either. Because I'd realize I wasn't the audience.
2 You are one of the most pathological liars and bigot hypocrites on this forum: - For instance, you claim you have seen BvS and bitch, next thread you claim not to have seen it, and pass worthless judgment. - Indeed, you plagued the Star Wars forums several times, eg by opening one of the dumbest threads ever, bitching relentlessly about not understanding the Camino mystery scenes in EpII and calling it bad writing. I did not respond as I though you were just a slow imbecile. I learned that you are stupid and a troll too. - Not to forget, you relentlessly slime and worm through the DC and X-Man forums , passively aggressively slandering and poisoning them with your bigoted and sexist trash, like a retarded 12 year old troll always jealous and anxious that people might give more attention to it than MCU. This either in your ArchStanton account form, or worse with your trolling sock account. Do us all a favor and shut up already. You are an embarrassment not only for all critically thinking posters, but more so the MCU and its fans.
|
|
|
|
Post by charzhino on Jun 15, 2017 10:16:06 GMT
Ant Man and Doctor Strange were serviceable and about as generic as you can get. Nothing memorable about them whatsoever apart from the CGI and special effects. But I would prefer seeing Doctor Strange 2 only because Benedict Cumberbatch is a better actor.
|
|
|
|
Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 15, 2017 13:06:18 GMT
Great. You're not one of the fandom then, which is fine. I'm not really a Star War person.
But I wouldn't come into a Star Wars chat room and say I didn't like the movies either. Because I'd realize I wasn't the audience.
2 You are one of the most pathological liars and bigot hypocrites on this forum: - For instance, you claim you have seen BvS and bitch, next thread you claim not to have seen it, and pass worthless judgment. - Indeed, you plagued the Star Wars forums several times, eg by opening one of the dumbest threads ever, bitching relentlessly about not understanding the Camino mystery scenes in EpII and calling it bad writing. I did not respond as I though you were just a slow imbecile. I learned that you are stupid and a troll too. - Not to forget, you relentlessly slime and worm through the DC and X-Man forums , passively aggressively slandering and poisoning them with your bigoted and sexist trash, like a retarded 12 year old troll always jealous and anxious that people might give more attention to it than MCU. This either in your ArchStanton account form, or worse with your trolling sock account. Do us all a favor and shut up already. You are an embarrassment not only for all critically thinking posters, but more so the MCU and its fans. I don't even go on the Star Wars forums, so you're just making stuff up.
I'm just giving honest insight. In fact the things I've said about Wonder Woman and DC were just repeated verbatim by MovieBob in his review. Is he a troll too?
|
|
|
|
Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 15, 2017 13:17:15 GMT
It's pretty bad. I mean you can't really expect anybody to give respect to an opinion that MOS, BVS, and SS are better than IM, Hulk, and IM2. Come on man. That's a joke. So you meant to say IM2 twice? Also, you forgot WW - that's better than Thor, Hulk, and IM2. Oh, and you can get rid of SS, because, as I mentioned several times, I've never liked that movie.
|
|
|
|
Post by Tristan's Journal on Jun 15, 2017 13:29:38 GMT
2 You are one of the most pathological liars and bigot hypocrites on this forum: - For instance, you claim you have seen BvS and bitch, next thread you claim not to have seen it, and pass worthless judgment. - Indeed, you plagued the Star Wars forums several times, eg by opening one of the dumbest threads ever, bitching relentlessly about not understanding the Camino mystery scenes in EpII and calling it bad writing. I did not respond as I though you were just a slow imbecile. I learned that you are stupid and a troll too. - Not to forget, you relentlessly slime and worm through the DC and X-Man forums , passively aggressively slandering and poisoning them with your bigoted and sexist trash, like a retarded 12 year old troll always jealous and anxious that people might give more attention to it than MCU. This either in your ArchStanton account form, or worse with your trolling sock account. Do us all a favor and shut up already. You are an embarrassment not only for all critically thinking posters, but more so the MCU and its fans. I don't even go on the Star Wars forums, so you're just making stuff up. as I said, Stanton: Pathological liar. Among all the trolling from your tread history I present just two Star Wars threads you created (these are only from the first page of your thread history, I did not bother to search further): IMDB2.freeforums.net/thread/5861/wans-nonsense-clone-negotiation-episodeIMDB2.freeforums.net/thread/1482/most-anthology-film-after-obviousYou know, when lying constantly, you should at least be intelligent enough to cover your tracks, which is admittedly harder on a forum where all is in writing.
|
|
|
|
Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 15, 2017 13:31:08 GMT
So you meant to say IM2 twice? Also, you forgot WW - that's better than Thor, Hulk, and IM2. Oh, and you can get rid of SS, because, as I mentioned several times, I've never liked that movie. Why are you using the best DC film as the example? SS, BVS, and MOS, don't touch any of the phase 1 MCU films, pick any 4 you like.
And I'm not sure that WW is better than Thor. Certainly not by much if it is. I'm not even sure it's better than IM2, which is actually pretty good.
So Let's stack Thor and WW as equal at the top. IM, Hulk, and IM2 crush MOS, BVS, and SS, and there's no contest.
|
|
|
|
Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 15, 2017 13:32:20 GMT
Wow, 1 post in February. And 1 in March. Yeah I really go there all the time.
Also what kind of psycho are you that you can pull up threads somebody posted from 4 fucking months ago? Seriously, that's really weird dude.
|
|
|
|
Post by Tristan's Journal on Jun 15, 2017 13:52:05 GMT
Wow, 1 post in February. And 1 in March. Yeah I really go there all the time.
So we are changing the story now from "never went there, you are just making things up" and shifting goalposts to "ok occasionally, you psycho". Nobody said you are going there all the time, I just exposed your hypocritical lie that you would not go to a SW forums to bitch! Quod erat demonstrandum. Also what kind of psycho are you that you can pull up threads somebody posted from 4 fucking months ago? Seriously, that's really weird dude.A criminal's deflective logic: Blaming everybody and the investigator for being caught in the act. Yes, I can, and it took me seconds, Stanton. I am just a good deal smarter than you, which is not saying much frankly. And speaking of "Psychos" and "weird": With your drooling fanboy fanatism for a film franchise directed at kids, and your unashamed lying and unconditional trolling, I would very much be interested in your mental condition.
|
|
|
|
Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 15, 2017 14:06:50 GMT
Wow, 1 post in February. And 1 in March. Yeah I really go there all the time.
So we are changing the story now from "never went there, you are just making things up" and shifting goalposts to "ok occasionally, you psycho". Nobody said you are going there all the time, I just exposed your hypocritical lie that you would not go to a SW forums to bitch! Quod erat demonstrandum. Also what kind of psycho are you that you can pull up threads somebody posted from 4 fucking months ago? Seriously, that's really weird dude.A criminal's deflective logic: Blaming everybody and the investigator for being caught in the act. Yes, I can, and it took me seconds, Stanton. I am just a good deal smarter than you, which is not saying much frankly. And speaking of "Psychos" and "weird": With your drooling fanboy fanatism for a film franchise directed at kids, and your unashamed lying and unconditional trolling, I would very much be interested in your mental condition. you're such an obvious troll. Make sure and take everything completely literally ok. Because saying I never go there means I've never ever gone there even once.
Come back when you're an adult.
|
|