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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 14, 2017 8:38:10 GMT
Claire Hoffman wrote the book Greetings from Utopia Park: surviving a transcendent childhood (about Spring of 2016?).
We already discussed it, however briefly, on the old board. I thought it might make a great conversation piece for this nearly dead discussion board. I'm hoping there will be a lot of sharing of anecdotes. There tends to be bitter "debate" regarding religion, which I suppose must be. There can be much value in just sharing anecdotes though.
People often criticize evidence as "anecdotal" as if that means "worthless." All evidence is anecdotal really. It's just that some research has many more anecdotes than others.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 19, 2017 10:40:38 GMT
Claire Hoffman wrote the book Greetings from Utopia Park: surviving a transcendent childhood (about Spring of 2016?). We already discussed it, however briefly, on the old board. I thought it might make a great conversation piece for this nearly dead discussion board. I'm hoping there will be a lot of sharing of anecdotes. There tends to be bitter "debate" regarding religion, which I suppose must be. There can be much value in just sharing anecdotes though. People often criticize evidence as "anecdotal" as if that means "worthless." All evidence is anecdotal really. It's just that some research has many more anecdotes than others. You're going to have to discuss this book ... ... or else ... |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 23, 2017 10:21:16 GMT
Or else I'll have to read ...
Al Franken, Giant of the Senate by Al Franken
I Can't Make This Up by comedian Kevin Hart (and Neil Strauss)
Understanding Trump by Newt Gingrich (  ) Or what? |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 23, 2017 13:00:15 GMT
What is a 'transcendent childhood'?
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 26, 2017 9:26:45 GMT
What is a 'transcendent childhood'? Yes, I've become disgusted with search engines too. I hate it when you search something and it just gives you more "related" searches to make. Then you make one of those searches and get yet another page of nothing but searches. On and on it goes never finding any information at all, related or otherwise. The author's mother was a follower of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (the same one the Beatles had some interest in) and practiced "transcendental meditation" as taught by him. She went to live in Utopia Park, a religious community founded by the yogi in Fairfield, Iowa where as a young child, the now author, was sent to the religious elementary school there. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 26, 2017 11:38:42 GMT
What is a 'transcendent childhood'? Yes, I've become disgusted with search engines too. I hate it when you search something and it just gives you more "related" searches to make. Then you make one of those searches and get yet another page of nothing but searches. On and on it goes never finding any information at all, related or otherwise. The author's mother was a follower of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (the same one the Beatles had some interest in) and practiced "transcendental meditation" as taught by him. She went to live in Utopia Park, a religious community founded by the yogi in Fairfield, Iowa where as a young child, the now author, was sent to the religious elementary school there. So, just a religious education then.... |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 26, 2017 11:51:40 GMT
So, just a religious education then.... In some ways perhaps, in others quite unique, especially in the United States. Did you know any kids who attended religious private education when you were growing up? |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 26, 2017 12:03:24 GMT
So, just a religious education then.... In some ways perhaps, in others quite unique, especially in the United States. Did you know any kids who attended religious private education when you were growing up?
No, all my contemporaries enjoyed regular state education. In the UK private religious education is really a minority sector, often associated with dubious standards and conservative social engineering.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 27, 2017 10:06:36 GMT
In some ways perhaps, in others quite unique, especially in the United States. Did you know any kids who attended religious private education when you were growing up?
No, all my contemporaries enjoyed regular state education. In the UK private religious education is really a minority sector, often associated with dubious standards and conservative social engineering.
When I was a kid a bigger issue was whether your family had a color TV. In the United States it quickly became obvious that everyone would get one eventually. Everyone having a house, a car, and a color TV was sort of an American ideal at the time. My memories of schoolyard conversations are about what the various color adjustment knobs could do. Some favorite TV programs continued in monochrome until almost everyone had a color TV. |
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Post by progressiveelement on Jun 27, 2017 11:40:31 GMT
Utopia was an early 80s game that used "God game" and sim concepts long before it was a fad.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 27, 2017 12:31:17 GMT
This is reminiscent of the time I posted about four hundred people who met to testify about their alien abductions and UFO sightings, and Cash came in to say that it was only four hundred pieces of anecdotal evidence. Later he claimed that testimony is not evidence. Yet, when you hire eggheads with college degrees to testify that "global warming" from manmade CO2 is killing the planet, well that's different.  |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 27, 2017 13:22:38 GMT
This is reminiscent of the time I posted about four hundred people who met to testify about their alien abductions and UFO sightings, and Cash came in to say that it was only four hundred pieces of anecdotal evidence. Later he claimed that testimony is not evidence. Yet, when you hire eggheads with college degrees to testify that "global warming" from manmade CO2 is killing the planet, well that's different. It doesn't take an egghead to wonder where all the photographs taken by alleged abductees can be, given the ubiquity of camera phones these days. And an Unidentified Flying Object is just that, something which is just presently ... unidentified. It does not necessarily mean alien spacecraft, from Nibiru or otherwise. |
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Post by thefleetsin on Jun 27, 2017 13:53:30 GMT
Claire Hoffman wrote the book Greetings from Utopia Park: surviving a transcendent childhood (about Spring of 2016?). We already discussed it, however briefly, on the old board. I thought it might make a great conversation piece for this nearly dead discussion board. I'm hoping there will be a lot of sharing of anecdotes. There tends to be bitter "debate" regarding religion, which I suppose must be. There can be much value in just sharing anecdotes though. People often criticize evidence as "anecdotal" as if that means "worthless." All evidence is anecdotal really. It's just that some research has many more anecdotes than others. did she ever complete: 'i was a whore for their lord'? or the precursor 'my parents stuck me in a concentration camp: now i'm going to kill them'? |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 27, 2017 15:32:03 GMT
You're going to have to discuss this book ... The book looks interesting thanks; will scout around and see if I find a free .mobi version to copy to my kindle. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 27, 2017 17:50:17 GMT
This is reminiscent of the time I posted about four hundred people who met to testify about their alien abductions and UFO sightings, and Cash came in to say that it was only four hundred pieces of anecdotal evidence. Later he claimed that testimony is not evidence. Yet, when you hire eggheads with college degrees to testify that "global warming" from manmade CO2 is killing the planet, well that's different. It doesn't take an egghead to wonder where all the photographs taken by alleged abductees can be, given the ubiquity of camera phones these days. And an Unidentified Flying Object is just that, something which is just presently ... unidentified. It does not necessarily mean alien spacecraft, from Nibiru or otherwise. I never said anything about them being alien spacecraft. That is just the standard assumption. |
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Post by gadreel on Jun 27, 2017 18:40:27 GMT
People often criticize evidence as "anecdotal" as if that means "worthless." All evidence is anecdotal really. It's just that some research has many more anecdotes than others. No: Search Results anecdotal ˌanɪkˈdəʊtl/ adjective adjective: anecdotal (of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research. I have not read the book you are talking about, I am currently reading the kybalion, is there a synopsis? |
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Post by phludowin on Jun 27, 2017 18:57:04 GMT
"People often criticize evidence as "anecdotal" as if that means "worthless." All evidence is anecdotal really. It's just that some research has many more anecdotes than others. Not quite. The difference between anecdotal and scientific evidence is that scientific evidence is reproductible. Meaning: If an experiment is conducted, you know what will happen. No matter when or where the experiment is conducted, or who does it. If a certain set of requirements is met, and the experiment delivers the expected outcome, then you have scientific evidence. But with anecdotal evidence you don't have it. It only happened to one person at one time. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 27, 2017 21:19:05 GMT
You're going to have to discuss this book ... The book looks interesting thanks; will scout around and see if I find a free .mobi version to copy to my kindle. I was able to borrow a copy from my local library. That's the printed on paper version of course. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 27, 2017 21:42:56 GMT
People often criticize evidence as "anecdotal" as if that means "worthless." All evidence is anecdotal really. It's just that some research has many more anecdotes than others. No: Search Results anecdotal ˌanɪkˈdəʊtl/ adjective adjective: anecdotal (of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research. I have not read the book you are talking about, I am currently reading the kybalion, is there a synopsis? Anecdote: A short amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person. I see you still believe yours are more "factual" than mine. Why would you keep doing that when it has never been found the case? "No" to your "no," you are not the teacher. Neither is your source. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 27, 2017 21:56:32 GMT
In theory, yes. On paper, yes. In practice, not so much. Most of the things many people speaking out lately believe are "science" are not science at all and have never passed duplication. Or name some. Unless of course you pay attention to the fact that I have more duplication than you. |
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