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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 16:00:35 GMT
white main, black sidekick lame female characters fake deaths lame villains weak third acts lame jokes Mass Marketing Stan Lee Paid Critics Paid critics? Uhm.... Iron Fist.... uhm Wonder Woman....
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 16, 2017 16:09:08 GMT
I wouldn't include CGI in this list, simply because pretty much every modern blockbuster uses CGI nowadays. So I don't think we can say it's a Marvel formula, more that it's a modern film formula. In it's place I'd like to suggest a different point: Fight choreography - MCU likes utilizing "up close and personal" types of fight sequences. They'll pan out and do wide shots every now and then when necessary but they prefer focusing on close-fighting. I'm not saying it's super close and shaky cam like Bourne stuff (though this is also used in some fight scenes), merely that they don't do too many wide, epic shots. This is quite different from say X-men who love making wide shots like Magneto lifting very huge things, Apocalypse tanking multiple hits with his shield, Phoenix disintegrating anyone within a specific radius. DCEU also uses a lot of wide shots like during Superman vs. Zod fight flying through buildings, the showdown with Doomsday, even the gun fights in SS. WW was a bit different in that it actually used a lot of close-up fights. Fight Choreography feels just as much like a staple of big tentpoles just as CGI might be.
Close-up Fight Choreography is a signature of the Marvel brand. I don't know if it gets used consistently enough throughout their movies to be considered part of their formula. I'll have to revisit some of their earlier films to be sure.
I added CGI to the list because most Marvel movies tend to end with CGI-heavy third acts. I guess DCEU films finish with the same but, I've only seen Man of Steel, Wonder Woman and half of Batman v. Superman, so I'm not a good judge.SaveSaveSaveSaveEvery DCEU movie to date has ended with a big CGI fight at the end. Almost all X-men and F4 movies have done the same, exception being Logan. There are some MCU movies that didn't end in a huge CGI fight but I guess majority of their movies did. In fact, I'm pretty sure the MCU has a higher percentage of movies that doesn't use big CGI at the final fight than both DCEU and X-men. Not that they completely did not use CGI, just that the final fight wasn't a huge CGI fest.
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Post by charzhino on Jun 16, 2017 21:20:08 GMT
[ timestamp="1497622950" source="/post/542293/thread" author=" Atom(ica) Discord"] Almost all X-men and F4 movies have done the same, exception being Logan. There are some MCU movies that didn't end in a huge CGI fight but I guess majority of their movies did. In fact, I'm pretty sure the MCU has a higher percentage of movies that doesn't use big CGI at the final fight than both DCEU and X-men. Not that they completely did not use CGI, just that the final fight wasn't a huge CGI fest. Wrong. 4 out of the 9 (44%) X-Men films end in CGI big fight. I can only think of Civil War and The First Avenger in which they finish the movie in a close bounded manner. Thats 13/15 - 86%. Its not even close
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 16, 2017 21:25:58 GMT
[ timestamp="1497622950" source="/post/542293/thread" author=" Atom(ica) Discord"] Almost all X-men and F4 movies have done the same, exception being Logan. There are some MCU movies that didn't end in a huge CGI fight but I guess majority of their movies did. In fact, I'm pretty sure the MCU has a higher percentage of movies that doesn't use big CGI at the final fight than both DCEU and X-men. Not that they completely did not use CGI, just that the final fight wasn't a huge CGI fest. Wrong. 4 out of the 9 (44%) X-Men films end in CGI big fight. I can only think of Civil War and The First Avenger in which they finish the movie in a close bounded manner. Thats 13/15 - 86%. Its not even close Oh, snap!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 0:11:56 GMT
white main, black sidekick Lame female charactersfake deaths lame villains weak third acts lame jokesMass Marketing Stan Lee Paid Critics
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 17, 2017 12:01:46 GMT
white main, black sidekick Lame female charactersfake deaths lame villains weak third acts lame jokesMass Marketing Stan Lee Paid Critics I wouldn't be surprised to learn they legit did pay critics to get the score up for TFA. Seriously. The rest, prolly not, but that was -- yeah.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 17, 2017 14:11:10 GMT
Nah, it was just an enjoyable movie after the Prequels.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 17, 2017 14:26:32 GMT
Nah, it was just an enjoyable movie after the Prequels. Nah, you should've been a blow job.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Jun 17, 2017 15:21:07 GMT
Nah, it was just an enjoyable movie after the Prequels. Exactly, enjoyable for easily-entertained nimrods of your ilk. But it was an unimaginably unimaginative rehash with fanfiction level writing for the more demanding fan, thus, the backlash in the media, shows and forums soon after the opening hype.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 17, 2017 15:23:15 GMT
Nah, it was just an enjoyable movie after the Prequels. Exactly, enjoyable for easily-entertained nimrods of your ilk. But it was an unimaginably unimaginative rehash with fanfiction level writing for the more demanding fan, thus, the backlash in the media, shows and forums soon after the opening hype.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 17, 2017 15:31:19 GMT
Nah, it was just an enjoyable movie after the Prequels. Exactly, enjoyable for easily-entertained nimrods of your ilk. But it was an unimaginably unimaginative rehash with fanfiction level writing for the more demanding fan, thus, the backlash in the media, shows and forums soon after the opening hype. They tried something different before, we got the Prequels. TFA may have been a rehash, but it was a good rehash.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 17, 2017 15:31:35 GMT
Nah, it was just an enjoyable movie after the Prequels. Nah, you should've been a blow job. Calm down Francis, you're going to give yourself skin failure.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 17, 2017 15:32:15 GMT
Nah, you should've been a blow job. Calm down Francis, you're going to give yourself skin failure. Nah, you should've been a blow job.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 17, 2017 15:33:36 GMT
Calm down Francis, you're going to give yourself skin failure. Nah, you should've been a blow job. Calm down Francis, your skin failure is getting worse.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 17, 2017 15:34:09 GMT
Nah, you should've been a blow job. Calm down Francis, your skin failure is getting worse. Nah, you should've been a blow job.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 17, 2017 15:36:00 GMT
Calm down Francis, your skin failure is getting worse. Nah, you should've been a blow job. Geez, you're reaching meltdown at this point. Skin's crisping right off, .
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 17, 2017 15:36:48 GMT
Nah, you should've been a blow job. Geez, you're reaching meltdown at this point. Skin's crisping right off, . Nah, you should've been a blow job.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 17, 2017 15:38:17 GMT
Geez, you're reaching meltdown at this point. Skin's crisping right off, . Nah, you should've been a blow job. You're in full-on Meltdown by this point, it's funny.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 17, 2017 15:41:56 GMT
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 17, 2017 15:43:56 GMT
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