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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 17, 2017 15:46:30 GMT
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Post by Jedan Archer on Jun 17, 2017 15:51:53 GMT
Exactly, enjoyable for easily-entertained nimrods of your ilk. But it was an unimaginably unimaginative rehash with fanfiction level writing for the more demanding fan, thus, the backlash in the media, shows and forums soon after the opening hype. They tried something different before, we got the Prequels. TFA may have been a rehash, but it was a good rehash. I find your lack of vision disturbing. Yet, validating too. There is nothing else to say than reiterating two Einstein quotes: "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination.""Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 17, 2017 15:55:26 GMT
^Zing!
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 17, 2017 17:44:12 GMT
They tried something different before, we got the Prequels. TFA may have been a rehash, but it was a good rehash. I find your lack of vision disturbing. Yet, validating too. There is nothing else to say than reiterating two Einstein quotes: "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination.""Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
The Prequels left too bad a taste in peoples' mouths to risk something too different from the OT for the first of a new series. Now that TFA has gotten people interested again, they can try something different with "The Last Jedi".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 19:34:19 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised to learn they legit did pay critics to get the score up for TFA. Seriously. The rest, prolly not, but that was -- yeah. Well despite liking TFA I have to say it definitely deserves lower. Probably in the 75 to 80 range. I feel like it got praise because of nostalgia and hype I mean Phantom Menace got just as much praise when it got released.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Jun 18, 2017 14:53:39 GMT
I find your lack of vision disturbing. Yet, validating too. There is nothing else to say than reiterating two Einstein quotes: "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination.""Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
The Prequels left too bad a taste in peoples' mouths to risk something too different from the OT for the first of a new series. Now that TFA has gotten people interested again, they can try something different with "The Last Jedi". Put into your langue: TFA was made for people who are ashamed of taste. No wonder this demographic overlaps with people who love to polish raccoon turd, no offence.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 18, 2017 16:06:39 GMT
Well despite liking TFA I have to say it definitely deserves lower. Probably in the 75 to 80 range. I feel like it got praise because of nostalgia and hype I mean Phantom Menace got just as much praise when it got released. TFA is clearly better if you ask me, with a significantly better ending if nothing else.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 18, 2017 20:48:02 GMT
Well despite liking TFA I have to say it definitely deserves lower. Probably in the 75 to 80 range. I feel like it got praise because of nostalgia and hype I mean Phantom Menace got just as much praise when it got released. TFA is clearly better if you ask me, with a significantly better ending if nothing else. What specifically did you prefer about the ending? I hated the ending. Humbug!
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 19, 2017 0:51:10 GMT
The Prequels left too bad a taste in peoples' mouths to risk something too different from the OT for the first of a new series. Now that TFA has gotten people interested again, they can try something different with "The Last Jedi". Put into your langue: TFA was made for people who are ashamed of taste. No wonder this demographic overlaps with people who love to polish raccoon turd, no offence. No, it was made for people who appreciated the OT and were left sour by the Prequels being too pretentious and self-important. It did its job, and got people interested in Star Wars again. I hope you're not PO'ed at the lead being a woman.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 1:05:10 GMT
The Prequels left too bad a taste in peoples' mouths to risk something too different from the OT for the first of a new series. Now that TFA has gotten people interested again, they can try something different with "The Last Jedi". Put into your langue: TFA was made for people who are ashamed of taste. No wonder this demographic overlaps with people who love to polish raccoon turd, no offence. Yeah, an asshole with a Boba Fett avatar is in no position to talk about taste. The character is such an empty non-entity only children can fall in love with him, because he "looks cool." That raccoon you were mocking is ten times the character Boba will ever be.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jun 19, 2017 1:07:43 GMT
Put into your langue: TFA was made for people who are ashamed of taste. No wonder this demographic overlaps with people who love to polish raccoon turd, no offence. Yeah, an asshole with a Boba Fett avatar is in no position to talk about taste. The character is such an empty non-entity only children can fall in love with him, because he "looks cool." That raccoon you were mocking is ten times the character Boba will ever be. Boba's a little Boba bear. SaveSave
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 19, 2017 1:09:43 GMT
Put into your langue: TFA was made for people who are ashamed of taste. No wonder this demographic overlaps with people who love to polish raccoon turd, no offence. No, it was made for people who appreciated the OT and were left sour by the Prequels being too pretentious and self-important. It did its job, and got people interested in Star Wars again.
I hope you're not PO'ed at the lead being a woman. This is actually 100% correct, in terms of everything but the pretentiousness and self importance. Being as I was thrilled by (and loved) the prequels, it wasn't made for me. So I didnt particularly enjoy it and would've preferred a more original story. The female lead, meanwhile, was the right move. I just thought she was overpowered, etc. -- all the stuff we've discussed to death here and on the old boards. But you're right: it was absolutely made for and marketed to that specific audience and their kids, because they knew the part of the fan base that loved the prequels would go to see it anyway. It was a shrewd business decision, and it literally paid off.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Jun 19, 2017 11:39:49 GMT
Put into your langue: TFA was made for people who are ashamed of taste. No wonder this demographic overlaps with people who love to polish raccoon turd, no offence. Yeah, an asshole with a Boba Fett avatar is in no position to talk about taste. The character is such an empty non-entity only children can fall in love with him, because he "looks cool." That raccoon you were mocking is ten times the character Boba will ever be. Enter weirdraptor, the drama queen of trivial taste. Read my motto, kiddo, if you have the brains for it. But then again, according to you William Shakespeare never wrote an original thing, right? Seriously, with that notoriously ignorant output as yours, I advise you better go back to school, and do some homework, instead of creating thousands of ignorant, triggered posts on banal entertainment matters all day. And for what it's worth, BobaFett is one of the most overrated villains indeed, your awesome GunRacoon is super sweet and so kewl - and I am sure he has a lot more character than Boba, and definitely a bigger badass GUN!
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Post by Jedan Archer on Jun 19, 2017 11:43:19 GMT
Yeah, an asshole with a Boba Fett avatar is in no position to talk about taste. The character is such an empty non-entity only children can fall in love with him, because he "looks cool." That raccoon you were mocking is ten times the character Boba will ever be. Boba's a little Boba bear. SaveSave So spoke the spinning wheel. QED
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jun 19, 2017 14:32:51 GMT
Boba's a little Boba bear. SaveSave So spoke the spinning wheel. QED It's the spinning spoke, Boba Bear. So it would actually be, "so spoke the spinning spoke." Get it? How could I be an entire wheel of people all by my lonesome? You should watch more GoT. SaveSave
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Post by Jedan Archer on Jun 19, 2017 14:44:49 GMT
So spoke the spinning wheel. QED It's the spinning spoke, Boba Bear. So it would actually be, "so spoke the spinning spoke." Get it? How could I be an entire wheel of people all by my lonesome? You should watch more GoT. SaveSaveArtistic license, I needed the reference as allegorical reminiscence. Really, I suspect you to be the the sinister force pushing that wheel until it breaks. You should watch more Star Wars. But we might settle on "So spoke the spoke on the spinning wheel". It's a crummy alliteration, but it rhymes.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jun 19, 2017 14:59:41 GMT
It's the spinning spoke, Boba Bear. So it would actually be, "so spoke the spinning spoke." Get it? How could I be an entire wheel of people all by my lonesome? You should watch more GoT. SaveSaveArtistic license, I needed the reference as allegorical reminiscence. Really, I suspect you to be the the sinister force pushing that wheel until it breaks. You should watch more Star Wars. But we might settle on "So spoke the spoke on the spinning wheel". It's a crummy alliteration, but it rhymes. Fair enough. You're a bright boy, Boba Bear but do be careful, you're in the great game now. SaveSave
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 20, 2018 14:11:56 GMT
Nah, it was just an enjoyable movie after the Prequels. Nah, you should've been a blow job. Lmao
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 20, 2018 14:17:28 GMT
well, it would be downright silly and naive to deny that MCU films run on formula. Most genre films do, e.g., Bond is subject to a certain successful formula . Yet formula (as with soft drinks etc) is frequently changed (see latest Bond films) to accommodate audience fatigue and changing times. Also, another issue: How do you define "formula" with filmmaking, eg is the hiring of puppet Indie directors part of formula or policy? I am by no means a fan or expert on MCU; having seen most films only once and immediately forgotten them. But when you see one, you have seen it all in some way. The MCU formula is pretty prevalent, my two cents from the top of my head: - MCU Movies all feel similar (derivative): One knows what to expect and how it ends, there are no big surprises (as eg with out of formula movies such as Logan, Watchmen, TDKReturns etc). - This includes tone (quip-y, jokey, upbeat, clean) - Family friendly pandering to the broadest common denominator, including simple to understand dialog, - Relevant characters never die, and if they do they resurrected quickly (Fury, Winter Soldier, Loki, IM buddy etc) - Repeated storytelling tropes: essentially "Hero's Journey" a la Campell as defined in literature with magic items and mentors to be found - Hardly any focus on developing the (one shot) villain - Similar arcs and structures : Most of these movies have the same "flawed jerk goes through character crisis and becomes hero by learning something (Dr Strange, Thor, Ironman, Antman etc). Guardians has the Avengers-arc of several selfish and different jerks having to learn to work as a team to fight a common (weak) villain. It's the oldest formula arc in literature. - Despite being stand alone movies (not serialized) there are "teasers" and character introductions for othe rmovies. - Also the cinematography and pacing is pretty standardized (colorful, natural look), and there are other formula tropes such as end credit scenes . etc... There are countless articles/essays on what exact elements constitute MCU formula, but in the end an exact definition is futile as many elements are changed per movie; just a few: www.hypable.com/how-to-write-every-marvel-movie-ever/whatculture.com/film/10-biggest-parts-marvel-movie-formula-will-destroy-serieswww.comicbookmovie.com/comics/marvel_comics/what-is-the-marvel-studios-formula-a133104www.reviewsphere.org/news/the-marvel-formula/^^^^ THIS ^^^^
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 20, 2018 14:19:41 GMT
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