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Post by cupcakes on Jun 19, 2017 16:08:36 GMT
tpfkar So what about leading the libdems did he himself find incompatible with remaining "faithful to Christ"?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 19, 2017 16:33:44 GMT
Irrelevant since he chose his faith over the politics and, before that, he voted according to his party.
However, it could just as easily been about people focusing on his religion that made it irreconcilable to his political life. They were really pushing for him to say gay people are icky for some reason other than his voting record.
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 19, 2017 16:58:23 GMT
tpfkar How could it be irrelevant when he said he quit because he found it impossible to continue while remaining "faithful to Christ"? He should have the backbone to make his case and convince people, rather than dragging out lying, and after a poor showing quitting in a sob puddle about being pressed by some, when he was ultimately supported by the party.
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and inquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death. The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you. |
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Post by The Lost One on Jun 19, 2017 16:59:42 GMT
Interesting opinion on this from the acting chair of LGBT+ Lib Dems: m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/16095906Probably a fair assessment, though I still find it suspicious he resigns now when all this had kinda blown over a bit. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 0:07:37 GMT
Interesting opinion on this from the acting chair of LGBT+ Lib Dems: m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/16095906Probably a fair assessment, though I still find it suspicious he resigns now when all this had kinda blown over a bit. The way it comes across is that when he finally made his "No problem with the gays here!" statement, he was obviously lying. Once the election was over he had time to think about it and the choice was to continue lying about his views for the rest of his political career... or quit. |
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Post by The Lost One on Jun 20, 2017 7:34:47 GMT
Interesting opinion on this from the acting chair of LGBT+ Lib Dems: m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/16095906Probably a fair assessment, though I still find it suspicious he resigns now when all this had kinda blown over a bit. The way it comes across is that when he finally made his "No problem with the gays here!" statement, he was obviously lying. Once the election was over he had time to think about it and the choice was to continue lying about his views for the rest of his political career... or quit. I wonder was he pressured to quit though by his party and he used the Christian excuse to save face? As I pointed out he was at odds economically with many senior Lib Dems. They might have stood by him pre-election but leapt on him after the party's weakish performance in the election. Although maybe one of the points used against him was his Christianity might have turned off voters. Suppose this is just idle speculation on my part though |
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Post by vegalyra on Jun 20, 2017 18:45:18 GMT
Lol It's actually disgusting how stupid and obliviously clueless you are. Yeah it becomes difficult when people don't fall into certain categories you've constructed for them Cody. You see this idea that the left or liberals of which I'm one always go out of their way to defend Islam and its excesses is simply not true,as evidenced by me and I'm far from the only one. You see when that stereotype can't be applied to me you flail around ineffectively because you have absolutely no rebuttal to give,because I condemn religious extremism in all forms,while you hamstrung by your Christian bias don't. Once the scales drop from people's eyes when it comes to Islam we can drive it from the position of prominence it has in peoples lives,the same thing we did to the Christian ideology decades ago. Christianity is an irrelevance in British life to the vast majority of Britain's the goal is to do the same to Islam,it will be a long a bloody struggle taking decades but rest assured secularism will triumph in the end. And if a shitload of fundamentalists be they Muslim or Christian have to get trampled on to achieve this then so be it. I had to chime in. You sound like a very tolerant fellow. Are you really secure in your belief that Islam will reform itself like Christianity did and slowly secularize? You are aware of the Muslim conquests from Muhammed's time until their defeat at Tours by Charles Martel? Europe almost fell to Islam then. Europe almost fell again to Islam at the Siege of Vienna a few centuries later. I sincerely doubt that secularism will triumph over Islam at least the way you folks are going about it currently in Europe. The Koran teaches what to do with unbelievers. They are doing it right now. I figure at best Europe has about 1 more century at the most at the current rate of relocation of refugees and policies that protect Muslim adherents from the rule of law. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 20:02:58 GMT
The way it comes across is that when he finally made his "No problem with the gays here!" statement, he was obviously lying. Once the election was over he had time to think about it and the choice was to continue lying about his views for the rest of his political career... or quit. I wonder was he pressured to quit though by his party and he used the Christian excuse to save face? As I pointed out he was at odds economically with many senior Lib Dems. They might have stood by him pre-election but leapt on him after the party's weakish performance in the election. Although maybe one of the points used against him was his Christianity might have turned off voters. Suppose this is just idle speculation on my part though Guess we'll have to wait for the biography! |
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Post by THawk on Jun 21, 2017 21:32:57 GMT
Interesting opinion on this from the acting chair of LGBT+ Lib Dems: m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/16095906Probably a fair assessment, though I still find it suspicious he resigns now when all this had kinda blown over a bit. Well that woman has one good point - Farron is about as hardcore liberal as they come when it comes to gay issues. He's "done more" to push LGBT concerns then hardcore liberal politicians in America, such as Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. But because in the U.K., and increasingly in Western Europe, the hatred of all things Christian has hit fever pitch, exactly as I described in the title - there was no mercy for him. True, there are some other Christians in politics that are "allowed" to exist - but only because they haven't done anything yet to enrage the "liberal" gestapo. Hell, even some of the most well known atheists in the world get attacked in the same way over other issues, such as Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris when they point out how violent and dangerous Islam is. The slightest deviation from the script, and the "tolerance" crew that runs Western society lights up the fire. |
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Post by cupcakes on Jun 21, 2017 22:30:25 GMT
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