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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 2:43:08 GMT
than frwl? Considering that film came out just before goldfinger?
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jun 20, 2017 3:17:19 GMT
than frwl? Considering that film came out just before goldfinger?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 3:27:55 GMT
Omg that's so dated.
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Post by movielover on Jun 20, 2017 3:46:47 GMT
To be honest, they both feel dated now. And I'm saying this as a longtime fan of James Bond movies.
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Post by hi224 on Jun 20, 2017 3:52:48 GMT
Another period so different societal value.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jun 20, 2017 4:30:15 GMT
Probably because American society & pop culture had progressed quicker through the 20th century than Istanbul, Turkey. FRWL is set in more historically preserved locales.
Goldfinger has a f'n KFC restaurant in one of its scenes.
On Her Majesty's Secret Service is the one which has always looked the oldest & that was film #6.
Horse drawn sleighs ftw.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jun 20, 2017 4:49:45 GMT
Probably because American society & pop culture had progressed quicker through the 20th century than Istanbul, Turkey. FRWL is set in more historically preserved locales. Goldfinger has a f'n KFC restaurant in one of its scenes. On Her Majesty's Secret Service is the one which has always looked the oldest & that was film #6. Horse drawn sleighs ftw. Maybe not as bad as this one -  |
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Post by outrider127 on Jun 20, 2017 17:13:15 GMT
than frwl? Considering that film came out just before goldfinger? lol, they are ALL "dated", that's part of their charm today |
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Post by vegalyra on Jun 20, 2017 17:45:29 GMT
I think out of the Connery Bond films "Thunderball" seems the least dated. But I agree that From Russia With Love is less dated than Goldfinger.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jun 20, 2017 18:02:21 GMT
They're not dated. The word is classic!
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Post by mikef6 on Jun 20, 2017 20:10:14 GMT
There is no such thing as "dated." The term implies that the movies of today - reflecting the tastes of young Americans in the second decade of the 21st century - are somehow better than before. That is a rather dubious proposition, to say the least.
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Post by Salzmank on Jun 20, 2017 20:21:48 GMT
@joetorrence I agree completely with mikef6 on the "dated" question, but one reason you may feel that, Joe, is that From Russia with Love is more of a general "spy story" than Goldfinger, which is more specifically "Bondian." That is to say, if you had any spy in FRwL, it would still work. (And I don't mean that as a criticism: the book is my favorite of the Bond books, and I think the movie is the best Bond movie.) As this website put it: Thus FRwL may be, in effect, more generally timeless, whereas Goldfinger is bound by its time and place--and its series. (Not my reaction to the films, but perhaps a reason why...) |
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Post by sublime92 on Jun 21, 2017 4:03:09 GMT
Probably because American society & pop culture had progressed quicker through the 20th century than Istanbul, Turkey. FRWL is set in more historically preserved locales. Goldfinger has a f'n KFC restaurant in one of its scenes. On Her Majesty's Secret Service is the one which has always looked the oldest & that was film #6. Horse drawn sleighs ftw. The irony is that Istanbul has actually regressed since 1963. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jun 21, 2017 4:07:30 GMT
Probably because American society & pop culture had progressed quicker through the 20th century than Istanbul, Turkey. FRWL is set in more historically preserved locales. Goldfinger has a f'n KFC restaurant in one of its scenes. On Her Majesty's Secret Service is the one which has always looked the oldest & that was film #6. Horse drawn sleighs ftw. The irony is that Istanbul has actually regressed since 1963. If I read the news correctly, it's regressed 1200 years in the last 8 months. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jun 21, 2017 4:11:49 GMT
@joetorrence I agree completely with mikef6 on the "dated" question, but one reason you may feel that, Joe, is that From Russia with Love is more of a general "spy story" than Goldfinger, which is more specifically "Bondian." That is to say, if you had any spy in FRwL, it would still work. (And I don't mean that as a criticism: the book is my favorite of the Bond books, and I think the movie is the best Bond movie.) As this website put it: Thus FRwL may be, in effect, more generally timeless, whereas Goldfinger is bound by its time and place--and its series. (Not my reaction to the films, but perhaps a reason why...) FRWL is my #27 all time. I think its 007 dna does add tangible intrigue, involving characters & lexicon on a macro scale. Having said all that, I wasn't alive to discover it during its initial run. I dug around the franchise & discovered the earlier ones were finer films. I might've seen FRWL after 6-7 later Bond movies, thereby retroactively graphing its dna & whatnot into the Instanbul spy yarn. |
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Post by chalk2 on Jun 21, 2017 4:16:22 GMT
This discussion about my beloved Bond films has sure as hell made me feel dated.
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