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Post by stefancrosscoe on Jun 20, 2017 14:12:45 GMT
"You know, kindergarten is like the ocean. You don't want to turn your back on it."Street tough LAPD detective John Kimble (Arnold Schwarzenegger) has been working day and night in his relentless pursuit of putting the well known drug dealer Cullen Crisp (Richard Tyson) behind bars, but with the recent news that he has just lost out on his key witness, the case suddenly takes a dramatic turn, and it means they can not hold onto Crisp for much longer, if no new evidence can be found. With no time to waste, detective Kimble along with his new partner (Pamela Reed) is sent towards the small town of Astoria, Oregon in hope of locating the former wife of Cullen Crisp, and hopefully get her to cooperate by testifying against him in an open court. And with little information to go by, beside some old photos, John Kimble is given the task of trying to "blend" in, by going undercover, and that means he must take on his toughest and most dangerous challenge yet, which just happens to be a substitute teacher in the kindergarten.I love this film. A big childhood favorite of mine, and one of very few Schwarzenegger titles that my mum would let me watch, and where he continues his seemingly endless streak of box office hits, once again teaming up with comedy director Ivan Reitman in a family film where Arnie proved he could be more than just a unstoppable killing machine. Over time the film has gone onto to become quite the cult-classic, thanks to the incredible amount of memorable quotes, which back in the mid 00s made it into a bunch of hilarious prank calls, and then later on in 2012 it was rumoured that the Criterion Collection would come out with their very own Kindergarten Cop edition, which seemed to confuse and anger a lot of movie snobs, which I thought was comedy gold. Arnold always seemed to carry with him a natural talent when it comes to comedy and it went well along with his larger-than-life appearance. Sure a lot of it was probably unintentional but I think he took a lot of critics by surprise with more family oriented pictures like Twins (1988) and Kindergarten Cop, blending in comedy, with a bit of drama but never too much so it would be all over the place. While Kindergarten starts up like almost an typical Arnold action film, it soon turns into a very well made family film that could easily have turned into a disaster, like some of Sly Stallones or Bruce Willis comedy efforts but it didn't. The film has a fantastic feel-good atmosphere going, much thanks to the soundtrack by Randy Edelman but also the many beautiful locations either in Astoria or nearby. Acting wise, I think Arold does one hell of a job, sure we are not talking Oscar material but compared to his more typical action roles it was nice seeing him in a more "dramatic" part, specially the more tender scenes, such as when he encounters a kid with bruises, which is the work of his abusive dad, and then later on the satisfying moment we see Arnie confront the father or when he tells about why he has not seen his son, for many years. Richard Tyson as Cullen Crisp might not look like much of a threat to a guy like Arnie, but he makes up for that by being a very cunning kind of villain, and in fact one of the more "realistic" bad guys in any Arnold's films, as he has a certain way of dealing with things, specially when not going his way, and also comes along with a very cruel, secret weapon, his own mother. The beautiful Penelope Ann Miller has the part as Cullen's ex-wife, and does a fine job, specially when hit with the news that he might be on the lookout for her and their son. Pamela Reed and Arnold was a pretty solid team, and I thought the scenes with her boyfriend who was working as chef, was very funny, and the part where she tries to fit in as Kimble's austrian sister, Ursula, and they meet up with Joyce and her son at a local restaurant. Pamela would later on re-unite with Arnie in the dissapointing family comedy, Junior also directed by Reitman. Believe it or not, but a "sequel", well more like a horrible attempt of a remake was done years later, starring Dolph Lundgren, and it was a truly a awful film. Anyway, Kindergarten Cop seems to be a bit of a hit or miss with a lot of Arnold fans, as I guess some saw it as a bad sign that he went from bad ass action movies, to doing family films, but for me, I think of the film as a classic Arnie movie, and it lies somewhere between 7,5/10 and 8/10.
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Post by mikef6 on Jun 22, 2017 4:18:18 GMT
I thought it was amusing. At the time it came out I had two kids, one high school, one jr. high. Just from watching ads on TV, they were going around repeating the "It's not a tu-mah" catchphrase.
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I thought the most memorable moment was when the principal (Linda Hunt), who was suspicious of Arnie and very stern with him, sees him punch out the abusive father. You think she is going to jump on the chance to get Arnie in trouble when the dad calls the cops, but instead she supports him because the boy had been beaten pretty badly. I loved Hunt's performance as the boss with the good heart under the unyielding surface.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Jun 22, 2017 13:19:05 GMT
Beautiful put mikef6 Linda was indeed a great character-actress, and I loved it when she asked Kimble: "What did it feel like to hit that son of a bitch?" and then of course her little angry punch into the air, shortly after Kimble leaves her office, fantastic scene. 
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jun 22, 2017 22:39:58 GMT
I used to watch this movie all the time when I was growing up. Which was odd, considering that most kids in films/TV shows (and in general) tend to annoy me. I could totally identify with Kimble in this moment: ![]()  Another great moment was when he just dropped the kid who was eating other kids’ lunches. Arnie is indeed quite good at comedy (I also really like him in True Lies). I really enjoyed his character at the start of the film. From his introduction:  To how he gets Cindy to come in to testify against Crisp. Also, the way he just tosses Crisp around, smashing him into stuff – I loved that. And yes, Crisp was a decent villain (only surpassed in his nastiness by his horrible mother). I know I felt sorry for the guy he beat up to take the racing car set from. I think this was the first movie I saw Penelope Ann Miller in (I’d later see her in The Shadow – and I think that was about it). This was also the movie that introduced me to Pamela Reed (and I always remember her for her role in this). She was great playing off Arnie (the sequence with her being sick that ends with him carrying her inside is always amusing). I also liked when she rethinks sending him in (to fill her place) without a gun. Lowell and his obsession with death was somewhat amusing, but even more funny was Linda Hunt’s delivers of “ No, Lowell.” everytime he’d ask about someone dying. I will admit the kids got a laugh here and there (one such line being “What happened to your dog?” in reference to the ferret). Speaking of the ferret, I’m kind of glad he got to save the day by biting Crisp. Also awesome was Phoebe taking out Crisp’s mum with a bat and her, “Not so tough without your car, are ya?” line.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Jun 23, 2017 9:26:17 GMT
To how he gets Cindy to come in to testify against Crisp. Also, the way he just tosses Crisp around, smashing him into stuff – I loved that. And yes, Crisp was a decent villain (only surpassed in his nastiness by his horrible mother). I know I felt sorry for the guy he beat up to take the racing car set from.
One my favorite parts is when Cullen Crisp tells John Kimble:
"Kimble, you've wasted years chasing after me, and what has it got you? Huh? Nothing! I'll be out of here in a week, and you'll still be eating takeout food in that dump you live in. Yeah! I know all about you, Kimble. Without me, you wouldn't even have a life. My old lady left because of the money. Yours left because she just couldn't stand the sight of you."
Richard Tyson was such a sleazy creep in this film, but a very sly one, the kind of person you sure do not want to turn your back on. Then later on we can see how or why he is such a screwed up psychotic scumbag, as we get introduced to his mum, who is even worse.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Jun 23, 2017 9:32:57 GMT
Love those gifs you posted, and the opening of Kindergarten Cop is all classic, "I am the Party Poopah!" and "I love you Cindy, I want us to be together all the time." Another classic is: "Oh, excuse me. I forgot to introduce myself. My name is John Kimble, and I Love My Car!"
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Jun 23, 2017 9:43:55 GMT
I think this was the first movie I saw Penelope Ann Miller in (I’d later see her in The Shadow – and I think that was about it).
Beside this film, and maybe Carlito's Way, I do not know what happened to this beautiful woman, but somehow her career in the films seemed to fade away, and I have not seen her in a film since, well back in the mid 90s.
I used to watch this movie all the time when I was growing up. Which was odd, considering that most kids in films/TV shows (and in general) tend to annoy me.
Kids are usally very annoying, in films and TV, and it is of course not all their falt, but sometimes the directors/producers seem to just put in kids who look all cute and nice, but their acting style/screen persona are sadly often not too impressive, and that is what I enjoyed about Kindergarten Cop, is that a lot of the kids was just not a bunch of randomly loudmouthed, hyperactive little "terrorists" with no personalities, instead every one of them, has their own little unique quirks and way of telling their stories, without doing too much out of it. And the chemistry between those kids and Arnie was gold, not just comedy wise, but there was room for some more dramatic parts, and I was very impressed at how Ivan Reitman got the best out of both worlds, with comedy and some more "heavy" handed moments, such as dealing with a kid who has an abusive father, or when Cullen Jr. asks about Kimble and how come he never sees his own son, anymore.
The music also (for me) played a big part in the film. Beautiful, warm and very memorable soundtrack by Randy Edelman.
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