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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 20, 2017 23:28:36 GMT
screenrant.com/fantastic-four-reboot-kid-friendly-rumor/If this is true, then I'm gonna have to facepalm at the news. While I do want the X-Men to stay separate from the MCU, I don't see why Fox is even bothering with the Fantastic Four at this point. The last movie was a critical and commercial disaster, so what reason is there to still hold on to the brand?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 21, 2017 12:09:04 GMT
They have every right to hold on to it.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jun 21, 2017 12:12:37 GMT
screenrant.com/fantastic-four-reboot-kid-friendly-rumor/If this is true, then I'm gonna have to facepalm at the news. While I do want the X-Men to stay separate from the MCU, I don't see why Fox is even bothering with the Fantastic Four at this point. The last movie was a critical and commercial disaster, so what reason is there to still hold on to the brand? Why not? They've got nothing to lose. Fox has been committed to its sci-fi/fantasy films that are "loosely based on a Marvel comic book" for a while now. Doesn't even feel like the genuine IP anymore. I say let them keep the characters and make all the faux Marvel movies they want. Marvel should negotiate using the FF and X-Men simultaneously. We need a clearer dilineation between Marvel fans and Fox Marvel fans. Fox Marvel films is like walking into a fake Apple Store in China. No harm done if you've never been to a real one.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 21, 2017 12:17:40 GMT
screenrant.com/fantastic-four-reboot-kid-friendly-rumor/If this is true, then I'm gonna have to facepalm at the news. While I do want the X-Men to stay separate from the MCU, I don't see why Fox is even bothering with the Fantastic Four at this point. The last movie was a critical and commercial disaster, so what reason is there to still hold on to the brand? Why not? They've got nothing to lose. Fox has been committed to its sci-fi/fantasy films that are "loosely based on a Marvel comic book" for a while now. Doesn't even feel like the genuine IP anymore. I say let them keep the characters and make all the faux Marvel movies they want. Marvel should negotiate using the FF and X-Men simultaneously. We need a clearer dilineation between Marvel fans and Fox Marvel fans. Fox Marvel films is like walking into a fake Apple Store in China. No harm done if you've never been to a real one. You didn't like DP or 'Logan'?
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jun 21, 2017 12:27:10 GMT
Why not? They've got nothing to lose. Fox has been committed to its sci-fi/fantasy films that are "loosely based on a Marvel comic book" for a while now. Doesn't even feel like the genuine IP anymore. I say let them keep the characters and make all the faux Marvel movies they want. Marvel should negotiate using the FF and X-Men simultaneously. We need a clearer dilineation between Marvel fans and Fox Marvel fans. Fox Marvel films is like walking into a fake Apple Store in China. No harm done if you've never been to a real one. You didn't like DP or 'Logan'? Deadpool has never been my thing. The movie did work on the level that Fox was using the character to laugh off decades worth of mediocre X product they produced. Logan? Great movie but, only vaguely resembled the comic book characters it was based on.
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Post by miike80 on Jun 21, 2017 12:34:25 GMT
You didn't like DP or 'Logan'? Deadpool has never been my thing. The movie did work on the level that Fox was using the character to laugh off decades worth of mediocre X product they produced. Logan? Great movie but, only vaguely resembled the comic book characters it was based on. The truth is less than 5% care if the characters resemble the comic book counterparts. or care about comic books. All they care is if they like the movie
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jun 21, 2017 12:55:30 GMT
Deadpool has never been my thing. The movie did work on the level that Fox was using the character to laugh off decades worth of mediocre X product they produced. Logan? Great movie but, only vaguely resembled the comic book characters it was based on. The truth is less than 5% care if the characters resemble the comic book counterparts. or care about comic books. All they care is if they like the movie Cool, guess I'm a five percenter. What would you say to Marvel making their own Fantastic Four and X-Men films at the same time as Fox? Different cast, same characters, new interpretations. If it's just 5% than Fox would have absolutly nothing to worry about right? If they've been handling things correctly all along, their grip on the X and FF brands should remain strong, right? I know where my money would go on that bet, but that's just me.
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Post by miike80 on Jun 21, 2017 12:59:22 GMT
The truth is less than 5% care if the characters resemble the comic book counterparts. or care about comic books. All they care is if they like the movie Cool, guess I'm a five percenter. What would you say to Marvel making their own Fantastic Four and X-Men films at the same time as Fox? Different cast, same characters, new interpretations. If it's just 5% than Fox would have absolutly nothing to worry about right? If they've been handling things correctly all along, their grip on the X and FF brands should remain strong, right? I know where my money would go on that bet, but that's just me. The Marvel version would probably make more money, the MCU is a more popular brand. specially now, that Fox's main attraction Wolverine is not around
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Post by thenewnexus on Jun 21, 2017 14:36:46 GMT
Logan is overrated, nice tone and all but other than that its not that good. Its the X men version of the Dark Knight Rises. I don't care who makes the movie as long as its good. They just need good writers and directors. Max Landis and Josh Frank were the wrong people to take on FF,their movie Chronicle was trash.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 21, 2017 14:56:17 GMT
You guys are wasting time posing in this thread when you could be voting in my new polls!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 15:39:27 GMT
I am with Atomica on this one. Let Fox make their movies and let Marvel do the same. Actually let Fox use all the Marvel characters. If they do a bad job no harm done. If they do a good or better job thats fine too because we get even better movies than MCU ones.
I highly doubt if they can do it since they managed to get 4 good movies out until now in their X men universe (x1,x2, First Class & Logan). Two ok ones ( Deadpool and DOFP). The rest is not so good. Thats less than half. MCU has a higher figure of good movies. Close to 80%. The rest is still ok. Nothing bad. All is my humble opinion of course
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Post by politicidal on Jun 21, 2017 16:10:48 GMT
Insanity?
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jun 21, 2017 17:53:37 GMT
I am with Atomica on this one. Let Fox make their movies and let Marvel do the same. Actually let Fox use all the Marvel characters. If they do a bad job no harm done. If they do a good or better job thats fine too because we get even better movies than MCU ones. I highly doubt if they can do it since they managed to get 4 good movies out until now in their X men universe (x1,x2, First Class & Logan). Two ok ones ( Deadpool and DOFP). The rest is not so good. Thats less than half. MCU has a higher figure of good movies. Close to 80%. The rest is still ok. Nothing bad. All is my humble opinion of course Marvel is outmanuevered legally with regards to reclaiming their IP from any of the liscencees out there. I can't believe they negotiated film rights that literally never come to an end. I know there was no way they could have known they'd have their own successful studio someday but, giving the filmed rights away forever was an "Island of Manhattan" level blunder. I think they should push to be able to make movies featuring their lisenced IP alongside the other studios. Honestly, Sony and Fox worked hard to build their Marvel based franchises. They put a lot of effort and money into cultivating a product that many fans love and feel is the definitive filmed treatment of those characters. I'm not a fan of either studio's work personally (outside of one or two exceptions). That said, it would be insulting (and illegal) to ask them to shut down their franchises. All I'm asking is that Marvel get to do the same independently.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 21, 2017 17:57:54 GMT
I am with Atomica on this one. Let Fox make their movies and let Marvel do the same. Actually let Fox use all the Marvel characters. If they do a bad job no harm done. If they do a good or better job thats fine too because we get even better movies than MCU ones. I highly doubt if they can do it since they managed to get 4 good movies out until now in their X men universe (x1,x2, First Class & Logan). Two ok ones ( Deadpool and DOFP). The rest is not so good. Thats less than half. MCU has a higher figure of good movies. Close to 80%. The rest is still ok. Nothing bad. All is my humble opinion of course Marvel is outmanuevered legally with regards to reclaiming their IP from any of the liscencees out there. I can't believe they negotiated film rights that literally never come to an end. I know there was no way they could have known they'd have their own successful studio someday but, giving the filmed rights away forever was an "Island of Manhattan" level blunder. I think they should push to be able to make movies featuring their lisenced IP alongside the other studios. Honestly, Sony and Fox worked hard to build their Marvel based franchises. They put a lot of effort and money into cultivating a product that many fans love and feel is the definitive filmed treatment of those characters. I'm not a fan of either studio's work personally (outside of one or two exceptions). That said, it would be insulting (and illegal) to ask them to shut down there franchises. All I'm asking is that Marvel get to do the same independently. So basically you endorse me for Supreme Chancellor?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 18:26:18 GMT
I am with Atomica on this one. Let Fox make their movies and let Marvel do the same. Actually let Fox use all the Marvel characters. If they do a bad job no harm done. If they do a good or better job thats fine too because we get even better movies than MCU ones. I highly doubt if they can do it since they managed to get 4 good movies out until now in their X men universe (x1,x2, First Class & Logan). Two ok ones ( Deadpool and DOFP). The rest is not so good. Thats less than half. MCU has a higher figure of good movies. Close to 80%. The rest is still ok. Nothing bad. All is my humble opinion of course Marvel is outmanuevered legally with regards to reclaiming their IP from any of the liscencees out there. I can't believe they negotiated film rights that literally never come to an end. I know there was no way they could have known they'd have their own successful studio someday but, giving the filmed rights away forever was an "Island of Manhattan" level blunder. I think they should push to be able to make movies featuring their lisenced IP alongside the other studios. Honestly, Sony and Fox worked hard to build their Marvel based franchises. They put a lot of effort and money into cultivating a product that many fans love and feel is the definitive filmed treatment of those characters. I'm not a fan of either studio's work personally (outside of one or two exceptions). That said, it would be insulting (and illegal) to ask them to shut down there franchises. All I'm asking is that Marvel get to do the same independently. I agree. Its a waste of hard work if they had to give it up. And I must admit Im a sucker for more than a few outings from either studios. Dont tell anyone else but I even liked and sometimes even loved a DC flick from time to time.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jun 21, 2017 18:39:01 GMT
Marvel is outmanuevered legally with regards to reclaiming their IP from any of the liscencees out there. I can't believe they negotiated film rights that literally never come to an end. I know there was no way they could have known they'd have their own successful studio someday but, giving the filmed rights away forever was an "Island of Manhattan" level blunder. I think they should push to be able to make movies featuring their lisenced IP alongside the other studios. Honestly, Sony and Fox worked hard to build their Marvel based franchises. They put a lot of effort and money into cultivating a product that many fans love and feel is the definitive filmed treatment of those characters. I'm not a fan of either studio's work personally (outside of one or two exceptions). That said, it would be insulting (and illegal) to ask them to shut down there franchises. All I'm asking is that Marvel get to do the same independently. I agree. Its a waste of hard work if they had to give it up. And I must admit Im a sucker for more than a few outings from either studios. Dont tell anyone else but I even liked and sometimes even loved a DC flick from time to time. There are plenty of great DC movies. There is no disputing that. Don't know why it's so hard for DC fans to admit the same of Marvel.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 18:47:06 GMT
I agree. Its a waste of hard work if they had to give it up. And I must admit Im a sucker for more than a few outings from either studios. Dont tell anyone else but I even liked and sometimes even loved a DC flick from time to time. There are plenty of great DC movies. There is no disputing that. Don't know why it's so hard for DC fans to admit the same of Marvel. Its hard for me to understand the way small minded people think. I never understood blind adoration for something that is important in the great scale of things. I adore my wife and my family. But the reat is just a matter of taste.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jun 21, 2017 19:01:00 GMT
There are plenty of great DC movies. There is no disputing that. Don't know why it's so hard for DC fans to admit the same of Marvel. Its hard for me to understand the way small minded people think. I never understood blind adoration for something that is important in the great scale of things. I adore my wife and my family. But the reat is just a matter of taste. I don't have time at all for people like that. I see Raptor and Stanton going around in circles in these arguments that end with someone discussing where some portion of male ejaculate should have ended up or whatever. If that's what puts the wind in your sales, knock yourself out. I'm on this message board to discuss a pastime I enjoy with likeminded people or at least people who can intelligently and or respectfully disagree. Anything else is just noise.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 19:13:59 GMT
Its hard for me to understand the way small minded people think. I never understood blind adoration for something that is important in the great scale of things. I adore my wife and my family. But the reat is just a matter of taste. I don't have time at all for people like that. I see Raptor and Stanton going around in circles in these arguments that end with someone discussing where some portion of male ejaculate should have ended up or whatever. If that's what puts the wind in your sales, knock yourself out. I'm on this message board to discuss a pastime I enjoy with likeminded people or at least people who can intelligently and or respectfully disagree. Anything else is just noise. I do like to mess around from time to time. But I am also capable of being serious. Real trolls I want to ignore. Sometimes they just get under my skin and I lash out.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jun 21, 2017 19:16:14 GMT
I don't have time at all for people like that. I see Raptor and Stanton going around in circles in these arguments that end with someone discussing where some portion of male ejaculate should have ended up or whatever. If that's what puts the wind in your sales, knock yourself out. I'm on this message board to discuss a pastime I enjoy with likeminded people or at least people who can intelligently and or respectfully disagree. Anything else is just noise. I do like to mess around from time to time. But I am also capable of being serious. Real trolls I want to ignore. Sometimes they just get under my skin and I lash out. Hey, I'm no one's judge, just saying it's not my thing. I'm not easily provoked or baited.
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