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Post by novastar6 on Feb 24, 2017 0:16:24 GMT
I love this movie, I love Katharine Hepburn in it, even though at this time she was still 'box office poison', this was actually one of her best performances, just the right mixture of comedy and drama, and it worked.
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Post by Salzmank on Feb 24, 2017 0:54:05 GMT
I love this movie, I love Katharine Hepburn in it, even though at this time she was still 'box office poison', this was actually one of her best performances, just the right mixture of comedy and drama, and it worked. I don't think it's a great movie--but I do think it's a very good one. As you so accurately note, Kate Hepburn's performance is excellent, probably one of her best, and Cary Grant's is quite good as well. In particular, the scene in which Hepburn and Grant almost resort back to childhood is brilliantly done, comparable to a similar scene in Laurel and Hardy's Their First Mistake. Cukor's direction is fine, if a bit slow and stodgy; as usual, Cukor is more interested in characters than visuals, and he rarely has any desire to "open up" from an original stage play. (Sarris wrote on this in The American Cinema, though he was fonder of Cukor's style than I.) Ultimately, however, Cukor seems to recognize that character is what drives the picture forward, and he deeply cares about revealing character through actors. (Unfortunately typed as a "woman's director," he did much of his best work with actresses, particularly Hepburn.) The ending is particularly good. I would love to see it again. Indeed, I love the characters Edward Everett Horton and Jean Dixon play, as Cary's delightfully eccentric (we may now call them by the terrible word "quirky") professor friend and his wife. The reason for that is not only the characters themselves, as well as Horton and Dixon play them, but also because they're almost identical to two dear friends of mine, also a professor and his wife (who is actually also a professor). The last time I saw them, I actually told them that, and they said they'd have to watch Holiday again!
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 24, 2017 0:55:54 GMT
LOL, now that's a strange coincidence.
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Post by marshamae on Feb 24, 2017 0:58:49 GMT
This is one gem I discovered myself. It was the early days of video stores. I had read there were many Cary Grant comedies that nad not been on TV in years. I rented it sight unseen and fell in love. It was a different Cary Grant , loose and silly , breaking up Doris Nolan. Hepburn had a chance to use her marvelous physical skills, and it was one of the best scripts she had( although she seemed to get great scripts , even in her box office poison days) .
Then there is Lew Ayres. We don't get a good picture of his appeal when all we know him for us Johnny Belinda. It's one of the best sustained drunken performances ever. It's not one - note slurring and lurching, it's moody and very funny, shifting suddenly to outrage . He delivers the key evaluation of the situation but is powerless to fix it. Finally there is wonderful Edward Everett Horton and jean Dixon. They play off each other beautifully and everything they do is quirky and unexpected. One of my great delights in the first viewing was seeing Horton pick up the Punch puppet and offer to do Romeo and Juliet, shrieking , " what Light thru yonder window breaks?" Followed by a maniacal laugh.
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Post by marshamae on Feb 24, 2017 1:03:25 GMT
Indeed, I love the characters Edward Everett Horton and Jean Dixon play, as Cary's delightfully eccentric (we may now call them by the terrible word "quirky") professor friend and his wife. The reason for that is not only the characters themselves, as well as Horton and Dixon play them, but also because they're almost identical to two dear friends of mine, also a professor and his wife (who is actually also a professor). The last time I saw them, I actually told them that, and they said they'd have to watch Holiday again!
Yep quirky it is. I always hesitate to use it but it actually describes one of my favorite qualities in actors or performances. It leads my to love Tom Conti, Michael J Pollard, and many others.
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Post by Salzmank on Feb 24, 2017 1:05:47 GMT
This is one gem I discovered myself. It was the early days of video stores. I had read there were many Cary Grant comedies that nad not been on TV in years. I rented it sight unseen and fell in love. It was a different Cary Grant , loose and silly , breaking up Doris Nolan. Hepburn had a chance to use her marvelous physical skills, and it was one of the best scripts she had( although she seemed to get great scripts , even in her box office poison days) . Then there is Lew Ayres. We don't get a good picture of his appeal when all we know him for us Johnny Belinda. It's one of the best sustained drunken performances ever. It's not one - note slurring and lurching, it's moody and very funny, shifting suddenly to outrage . He delivers the key evaluation of the situation but is powerless to fix it. Finally there is wonderful Edward Everett Horton and jean Dixon. They play off each other beautifully and everything they do is quirky and unexpected. One of my great delights in the first viewing was seeing Horton pick up the Punch puppet and offer to do Romeo and Juliet, shrieking , " what Light thru yonder window breaks?" Followed by a maniacal laugh. Resolved, then: I shall have to have my professor friend do Romeo and Juliet. Except that he teaches French, so maybe something from Moliere would be more to his liking? 
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Post by Wesley Crusher on Feb 24, 2017 1:07:05 GMT
Katharine Hepburn - Top 14 (ranked in order - feature films only)
*I came very close to giving Holiday an 8 Rating ... it just fell short
9 Guess Who's Coming to Dinner (1967) 8 Bringing Up Baby (1938) 8 The African Queen (1951) 8 Rooster Cogburn (1975) 8 On Golden Pond (1981) 7 Holiday* (1938) 7 Alice Adams (1935) 7 The Little Minister (1934) 7 Woman of the Year (1942) 7 State of the Union (1948) 7 Song of Love (1947) 7 A Woman Rebels (1936) 7 Morning Glory (1933) 7 Suddenly, Last Summer (1959)
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Post by Salzmank on Feb 24, 2017 1:09:13 GMT
Indeed, I love the characters Edward Everett Horton and Jean Dixon play, as Cary's delightfully eccentric (we may now call them by the terrible word "quirky") professor friend and his wife. The reason for that is not only the characters themselves, as well as Horton and Dixon play them, but also because they're almost identical to two dear friends of mine, also a professor and his wife (who is actually also a professor). The last time I saw them, I actually told them that, and they said they'd have to watch Holiday again!Yep quirky it is. I always hesitate to use it but it actually describes one of my favorite qualities in actors or performances. It leads my to love Tom Conti, Michael J Pollard, and many others. I suppose it's not a terrible word in and of itself ("peculiar and unexpected," my online dictionary has it, though I think that's a bit broad), but it is so mis- and over-used that I am usually loath to use it. "He paints naked blue women on the wall!" "No, he's just quirky!" But that ain't quirkiness, let me tell ya.
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Post by teleadm on Feb 24, 2017 18:38:13 GMT
Sadly the only things I remember from this film is that I thought Cary Grant was very acrobatic, and that Lew Ayres was cool.
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Post by marshamae on Feb 24, 2017 22:27:52 GMT
That's funny . I always think Holiday and Philadelphia Story are bookends to Barry's work. They are essentially concerned with similar things, the lifelessness , shallowness and toxic quality of life among the very rich.
Tracy Lord and Julia Seton are very similar ,although Tracy has the desire to break out, very well hidden, and only indulged with the help of alcohol. Linda Seaton's counterpart in Philadelphia Story is CKDexter Haven. Both children of wealth, both trying to find an authentic life and be something ,do something. Dexter, as a man, has more freedom to experiment. Linda is not going to be allowed to design sailboats, go in for art. She will be dragged back home or sent abroad. Neither Linda nor Dexter quite knew how to establish the kind of authentic relationship they wanted , although Linda got more help from Johnny that Dexter got from Tracy.
Both films had intellectual criticism and love from a working man. In PS both came from Jimmy Stewart. In Holiday the intellectual analysis came from drunken Ned and from the Potters, both pretty clear sighted about Linda. The working man with fresh ideas about love was , of course Cary Grant as Johnny, the fresh free man of business who wanted to understand his life.
Finally both films put the father as the moral center. In PS, the father was harshly critical but essentially supportive. In Holiday the father's demands were unreasonable and uncaring . In both films the mother tried to mediate the father's standards with warmth and acceptance. In both films , earning the father's approval was a primary concern for the women.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 0:39:42 GMT
Holiday is my favourite Cary Grant film; my second favourite of Hepburn after The African Queen although it is hard to choose.
The discussions Kate & Cary engage on what their characters want to do with their lives are so deep and profound. The difficulty of finding their place in life, the obstacles of trying to live it and not wanting to miss out on an ever changing world full of ideologies and ideas, all while trying to get by with an optimistic attitude despite the imperfections in their life. It’s hard to take it all in on and decipher in a single viewing, which makes Holiday one of my most life affirming movies.
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Post by Seto on Aug 27, 2020 11:55:41 GMT
Unfortunately I am not a fan of this film.
Doris Nolan as Katherine Hepburn's sister and Cary Grant's initial love interest is only revealed to be wrong for Grant very late into the picture, and until then there's no reason to root against her. Apart from the obvious fact that Grant and Hepburn are better known actors. For me Hepburn's character is incredibly unlikeable, the temper tantrum she throws when she can't have her own party for her sister garners no sympathy from me, and Hepburn's performance is too over the top, which pains me to say.
Ultimately it's a chore sitting through this one for me.
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