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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2017 5:43:09 GMT
MCU movies already ignore previous events and pretend they didn't happen and have characters act a way differently from an earlier appearance.
In The Avengers, Agent Coulson is stabbed and killed. Then in Agents of SHIELD, MCU ignored that and pretended it didn't happen and all of a sudden Agent Coulson is alive.
In The First Avenger, Bucky fell hundreds of feet off a train and died. Then in The Winter Soldier, MCU ignored that and pretended it didn't happen and all of a sudden Bucky is alive.
In Iron Man 2, Tony Stark refuses a Congressional order to turn over the Iron Man suit to the government in the interests of national security. In Age of Ultron, Tony Stark recklessly creates Ultron without any authorization from or any discussion with world leaders. Then in Civil War, Tony Stark suddenly goes from being anti-government to pro-government and favors the Sokovia Accords.
In Age of Ultron, Captain America strikes and kills an unarmed Strucker with his shield and then later in the very same movie they pretended that Captain America didn't kill an unarmed Strucker in cold blood and retconned that and said that Strucker was alive and held in prison and Ultron killed him.
Cap didn't kill strucker. Yes, he did. Cap smashed Strucker's head with his shield and killed him in cold blood. Then they pretended that didn't happen and retconned that later in the movie.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2017 5:46:42 GMT
Bucky didn't die in The First Avengers Bucky fell hundreds of feet off a train in The First Avenger. He wasn't on a super PED like Steve Rogers was so he was just a normal human being. Normal beings don't survive a drop of hundreds of feet from a speeding train. Ultron did indeed kill Strucker. Ultron supposedly killed Strucker after Cap already smashed Strucker's head with his shield and killed Strucker in cold blood and then the movie pretended that didn't happen and retconned it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 6:05:24 GMT
Bucky didn't die in The First Avengers Bucky fell hundreds of feet off a train in The First Avenger. He wasn't on a super PED like Steve Rogers was so he was just a normal human being. Normal beings don't survive a drop of hundreds of feet from a speeding train. Ultron did indeed kill Strucker. Ultron supposedly killed Strucker after Cap already smashed Strucker's head with his shield and killed Strucker in cold blood and then the movie pretended that didn't happen and retconned it. I guess you missed the part where Red Skull and Zola had been experimenting on James Barnes? He was already a supersoldier before he fell of the train. And nowhere in AoU has been claimed Strucker was dead. He did get a hit from the shield but nobody ever said he was dead. You made that up. So you dont pay attention to facts and tou make facts up to serve your argument. Sounds familiar Donald McHandegg.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 26, 2017 6:23:02 GMT
Bucky didn't die in The First Avengers Bucky fell hundreds of feet off a train in The First Avenger. He wasn't on a super PED like Steve Rogers was so he was just a normal human being. Normal beings don't survive a drop of hundreds of feet from a speeding train. Ultron did indeed kill Strucker. Ultron supposedly killed Strucker after Cap already smashed Strucker's head with his shield and killed Strucker in cold blood and then the movie pretended that didn't happen and retconned it. You didn't pay attention to the movies, your criticisms are invalid because if you would you'd get your answers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 6:34:25 GMT
Bucky fell hundreds of feet off a train in The First Avenger. He wasn't on a super PED like Steve Rogers was so he was just a normal human being. Normal beings don't survive a drop of hundreds of feet from a speeding train. Ultron supposedly killed Strucker after Cap already smashed Strucker's head with his shield and killed Strucker in cold blood and then the movie pretended that didn't happen and retconned it. You didn't pay attention to the movies, your criticisms are invalid because if you would you'd get your answers. Any theories on the source of Anne Hathaway-Fan's mental degeneration?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2017 6:38:34 GMT
Bucky fell hundreds of feet off a train in The First Avenger. He wasn't on a super PED like Steve Rogers was so he was just a normal human being. Normal beings don't survive a drop of hundreds of feet from a speeding train. Ultron supposedly killed Strucker after Cap already smashed Strucker's head with his shield and killed Strucker in cold blood and then the movie pretended that didn't happen and retconned it. nowhere in AoU has been claimed Strucker was dead. He did get a hit from the shield but nobody ever said he was dead. You made that up. They didn't have to claim it. Cap struck an unarmed Strucker on the head with his shield so it's pretty clear that Strucker's skull cracked wide open when Cap struck him on the head with his shield. Since Strucker was unarmed and was no threat to cap or anyone else, Cap basically murdered Strucker in cold blood. Sure, Strucker might have been a bad guy, but in Civil War cap refused to bring in Bucky because he thought they wouldn't give Bucky a trial and yet Cap kills Strucker in cold blood in AoU without giving Strucker any chance for a trial.
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Post by sostie on Jun 26, 2017 8:46:29 GMT
nowhere in AoU has been claimed Strucker was dead. He did get a hit from the shield but nobody ever said he was dead. You made that up. Since Strucker was unarmed and was no threat to cap or anyone else, Cap basically murdered Strucker in cold blood. But he didn't because STRUCKER DIDN'T DIE. Be honest...you either haven't actually seen the films you criticise or at best don't understand them. Not just based on the comments here, but ones made in the past on other MCU films (a couple of criticisms you had with the Civil War fight were hilariously way of the mark).
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2017 8:49:21 GMT
Since Strucker was unarmed and was no threat to cap or anyone else, Cap basically murdered Strucker in cold blood. But he didn't because STRUCKER DIDN'T DIE. Yes, he did. Captain America smashed an unarmed Strucker in the head with his shield so it's pretty clear that Captain America killed Strucker. And since Strucker was unarmed and was no threat to Captain America or anyone else, that means Captain America basically murdered Strucker in cold blood.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 9:13:03 GMT
nowhere in AoU has been claimed Strucker was dead. He did get a hit from the shield but nobody ever said he was dead. You made that up. They didn't have to claim it. Cap struck an unarmed Strucker on the head with his shield so it's pretty clear that Strucker's skull cracked wide open when Cap struck him on the head with his shield. Since Strucker was unarmed and was no threat to cap or anyone else, Cap basically murdered Strucker in cold blood. Sure, Strucker might have been a bad guy, but in Civil War cap refused to bring in Bucky because he thought they wouldn't give Bucky a trial and yet Cap kills Strucker in cold blood in AoU without giving Strucker any chance for a trial. My God you're really making things up. He didnt die. Not until Ultron killed him. Strucker's death wasnt mentioned nor implied. It only exists in your delusional narrow little mind. My cat's puke contains more intelligence and comprehension than your brain. You make things up and than call people stupid for denying it, you sad sad little man.
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Post by sostie on Jun 26, 2017 9:13:20 GMT
But he didn't because STRUCKER DIDN'T DIE. Yes, he did. No he didn't, because he appeared later in Agents Of SHIELD and ULTRON. Make up your mind...on the one hand you constantly complain that characters don't stay dead, and on the other you insist ones that didn't die, did!
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2017 9:17:44 GMT
They didn't have to claim it. Cap struck an unarmed Strucker on the head with his shield so it's pretty clear that Strucker's skull cracked wide open when Cap struck him on the head with his shield. Since Strucker was unarmed and was no threat to cap or anyone else, Cap basically murdered Strucker in cold blood. Sure, Strucker might have been a bad guy, but in Civil War cap refused to bring in Bucky because he thought they wouldn't give Bucky a trial and yet Cap kills Strucker in cold blood in AoU without giving Strucker any chance for a trial. My God you're really making things up. He didnt die. Not until Ultron killed him. Strucker's death wasnt mentioned nor implied. Nope, I'm not making things up. Captain America smashed Strucker's head with his shield. That implies Captain America killed an unarmed Strucker in cold blood. So yes, Strucker did die by Captain America's shield. Then they pretended it didn't happen and retconned it.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2017 9:19:21 GMT
No he didn't, because he appeared later in Agents Of SHIELD and ULTRON. Captain America killed an unarmed Strucker in cold blood when he smashed Strucker's head with his shield. Strucker appeared later in AoS and Age of Ultron because MCU pretended it didn't happen and retconned it.
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Post by sostie on Jun 26, 2017 9:41:45 GMT
No he didn't, because he appeared later in Agents Of SHIELD and ULTRON. Strucker appeared later in AoS and Age of Ultron because MCU pretended it didn't happen and retconned it. I admit I got the time lines a little confused...he "appeared" in Agents Of SHIELD before ULTRON. Now, are you serious in that you think they killed a character and then "retconned" it in the same film! You are saying they killed him in ULTRON and later decided to bring him back to life so he could be killed later in the same film! Are you saying that the screenplay has him killed and it's changed during filming? And of course this is assuming that the film (unlike almost any other film) was filmed chronologically. Admit it, you just assumed he was dead.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 26, 2017 11:26:27 GMT
With Phil Lord and Christopher Miller ousted from the Untitled Han Solo movie (as well as the behind the scenes of Rouge One), it is obvious that an executive committee is behind all of Disney's productions, increasingly taking over the role of directors. Or maybe the Directors for the Han Solo movie just weren't a good fit. Ever considered that?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 11:52:08 GMT
My God you're really making things up. He didnt die. Not until Ultron killed him. Strucker's death wasnt mentioned nor implied. Nope, I'm not making things up. Captain America smashed Strucker's head with his shield. That implies Captain America killed an unarmed Strucker in cold blood. So yes, Strucker did die by Captain America's shield. Then they pretended it didn't happen and retconned it. Keyword in your post is "implies". Nobody ever brought this up until today and only by you. You made this up or in best case scenario misunderstood what was happening but since you long lost all credibillity you are just lying sack of dog poo. You complain about things in movies that you made up and than call people stupid if they disagree with your delusions. You really are just a fuckfault arent you?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2017 14:03:01 GMT
Strucker appeared later in AoS and Age of Ultron because MCU pretended it didn't happen and retconned it. are you serious in that you think they killed a character and then "retconned" it in the same film! You are saying they killed him in ULTRON and later decided to bring him back to life so he could be killed later in the same film! Are you saying that the screenplay has him killed and it's changed during filming? And of course this is assuming that the film (unlike almost any other film) was filmed chronologically. Admit it, you just assumed he was dead. Watch AoU. Captain America strikes an unarmed Strucker in the head with his shield. STRUCKER DIES!
Then later in the movie, they claim that Strucker was still alive and that Ultron killed Strucker. So they pretended that Captain America didn't strike Strucker on the head with his shield and they retconned Strucker's death in the same movie.
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Post by sostie on Jun 26, 2017 14:13:55 GMT
are you serious in that you think they killed a character and then "retconned" it in the same film! You are saying they killed him in ULTRON and later decided to bring him back to life so he could be killed later in the same film! Are you saying that the screenplay has him killed and it's changed during filming? And of course this is assuming that the film (unlike almost any other film) was filmed chronologically. Admit it, you just assumed he was dead. Watch AoU. Captain America strikes an unarmed Strucker in the head with his shield. STRUCKER DIES!
Then later in the movie, they claim that Strucker was still alive and that Ultron killed Strucker. So they pretended that Captain America didn't strike Strucker on the head with his shield and they retconned Strucker's death in the same movie.
So despite what appears on screen, and the logic of film making, you still insist he died, because you assume he did? Your constant mis-interpretation and mis-understanding of, and fabrications about, MCU films is genuinely becoming both predictable and hilarious. Keep up the good work
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2017 14:17:55 GMT
Nope, I'm not making things up. Captain America smashed Strucker's head with his shield. That implies Captain America killed an unarmed Strucker in cold blood. So yes, Strucker did die by Captain America's shield. Then they pretended it didn't happen and retconned it. Keyword in your post is "implies". Nobody ever brought this up until today and only by you. You made this up or in best case scenario misunderstood what was happening but since you long lost all credibillity you are just lying sack of dog poo. You complain about things in movies that you made up and than call people stupid if they disagree with your delusions. You really are just a fuckfault arent you? It isn't "implied". AoU clearly shows Captain America striking an unarmed Strucker on the head with his shield and Strcuker going down. So Captain America killed Strucker in cold blood and that isn't implied; it was explicitly shown Captain America striking the death blow to Strucker's head with his shield.
I didn't make this up. Like I said, AoU clearly shows Captain America striking a unarmed Strucker on the head with his shield and Strucker going down. So yes, Strucker did die by Captain America's shield. Then they pretended it didn't happen and retconned it.
I recently saw The Zookeeper's Wife. In that movie, some Nazi soldiers pulled 2 Jewish women out of their boarding house, made them kneel on the sidewalk, and then shot them both in the back of the head. When the women were shot, they went down. The movie didn't have the soldiers say "They're dead", but it's clear that both women were killed by the shots to the back of their head.
In AoU, it's clearly shown that Captain America strikes an unarmed Strucker on the head with his shield. and Strucker goes down. Just like with the 2 women who were shot in the back of the head, we don't need Captain America to say "Strucker's dead" to know that Strucker was killed by Captain America striking his head with the shield. NOT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE SPOON-FED. TRY USING YOUR BRAIN AND EXERCISING SOME COMMON SENSE!
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2017 14:23:15 GMT
Watch AoU. Captain America strikes an unarmed Strucker in the head with his shield. STRUCKER DIES!
Then later in the movie, they claim that Strucker was still alive and that Ultron killed Strucker. So they pretended that Captain America didn't strike Strucker on the head with his shield and they retconned Strucker's death in the same movie.
So despite what appears on screen, and the logic of film making, you still insist he died, because you assume he did? Your constant mis-interpretation and mis-understanding of, and fabrications about, MCU films is genuinely becoming both predictable and hilarious. Keep up the good work If that's their logic, that that's bad filmmaking because AoU contradicts The Avengers. How about that? A shared universe where the sequel contradicts the previous movie! That shows how lame MCU is!
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Post by sostie on Jun 26, 2017 14:28:09 GMT
So despite what appears on screen, and the logic of film making, you still insist he died, because you assume he did? Your constant mis-interpretation and mis-understanding of, and fabrications about, MCU films is genuinely becoming both predictable and hilarious. Keep up the good work If that's their logic, that that's bad filmmaking because AoU contradicts The Avengers. How about that? A shared universe where the sequel contradicts the previous movie! That shows how lame MCU is!What contradiction? Explain. And what has it to do with you not believing that a comic book universe contains the concept of being knocked unconscious
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