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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 25, 2020 6:29:19 GMT
That was an interesting clip. The guy made some good points (even if he talks a mile a minute). I am a fan of the original. And I couldn't care less if parts of it are inept. (Though I enjoyed Ida and her chickens!) The film succeeds where it matters most. The first third of the movie is a bit awkward and the final third is pure exploitation, but the middle third is authentic, raw horror. There is an excellent review from the old IMDB (1999) and the guy said it was the only horror movie that ever made him cry. I totally get that. I hate what happens to Mari and Phyllis. The song "Now, You're All Alone" is desolate. Quentin Tarantino has made some enjoyable movies, but if ever there was a one trick pony, it's QT. And he's just so arrogant. Craven was right. And there is nothing "pussy" about the original LHOTL.
There's 4 films that never fail to bring tears to my manly eyes, dirtypillows - 'The Last House On The Left', 'Dog Day Afternoon' (1975), 'The Deer Hunter' (1978) and 'Platoon' (1985) - though I'm at a loss as to why. There's just scenes in those old movies, and I say this as somebody who'e by now seen thousands, that always strike right into my heart and leave me positively tearful (as in droplets runnind down my sad face). Needless to say, they all rank in my list of all-time favourites, and I'll always respect Wes Craven for standing up for his beliefs and at the same time respecting the beliefs of others.
Upon the YouTube reveal, I just edited my most recent post. I was always on the fence with QT, but after what I just saw, my estimation of him dropped through the floor. I feel like writing my very first hate letter.
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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 25, 2020 6:37:33 GMT
That was an interesting clip. The guy made some good points (even if he talks a mile a minute). I am a fan of the original. And I couldn't care less if parts of it are inept. (Though I enjoyed Ida and her chickens!) The film succeeds where it matters most. The first third of the movie is a bit awkward and the final third is pure exploitation, but the middle third is authentic, raw horror. There is an excellent review from the old IMDB (1999) and the guy said it was the only horror movie that ever made him cry. I totally get that. I hate what happens to Mari and Phyllis. The song "Now, You're All Alone" is desolate. Quentin Tarantino has made some enjoyable movies, but if ever there was a one trick pony, it's QT. And he's just so arrogant. Craven was right. And there is nothing "pussy" about the original LHOTL.
There's 4 films that never fail to bring tears to my manly eyes, dirtypillows - 'The Last House On The Left', 'Dog Day Afternoon' (1975), 'The Deer Hunter' (1978) and 'Platoon' (1985) - though I'm at a loss as to why. There's just scenes in those old movies, and I say this as somebody who'e by now seen thousands, that always strike right into my heart and leave me positively tearful (as in droplets runnind down my sad face). Needless to say, they all rank in my list of all-time favourites, and I'll always respect Wes Craven for standing up for his beliefs and at the same time respecting the beliefs of others.
For me, LHOTL is devastatingly sad. I loved "Dog Day Afternoon", but it didn't make me sad, though I did sympathize with hard luck Sonny. "The Deer Hunter" is practically a weep fest. I love that movie. And to be honest, I can't even remember if I've seen "Platoon". Lots of movies make me cry, though. I smell a new thread.
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Post by petrolino on Oct 25, 2020 6:38:33 GMT
There's 4 films that never fail to bring tears to my manly eyes, dirtypillows - 'The Last House On The Left', 'Dog Day Afternoon' (1975), 'The Deer Hunter' (1978) and 'Platoon' (1985) - though I'm at a loss as to why. There's just scenes in those old movies, and I say this as somebody who'e by now seen thousands, that always strike right into my heart and leave me positively tearful (as in droplets runnind down my sad face). Needless to say, they all rank in my list of all-time favourites, and I'll always respect Wes Craven for standing up for his beliefs and at the same time respecting the beliefs of others.
Upon the YouTube reveal, I just edited my most recent post. I was always on the fence with QT, but after what I just saw, my estimation of him dropped through the floor. I feel like writing my very first hate letter. Like you, I love QT (Quentin Tarantino), dirtypillows! But he is what he is, and he's not like the best of the drive-in era filmmakers he idolises, who literally laid everything on the line (mortgage, marriage, freiendships etc.) in order to make the movies they believed in. QT did that once and failed - he needed the likes of Harvey Keitel and Steve Buscemi to step in and restart his career. A little humility goes a very long way, but we love QT for his brand of revisionist art nonetheless.
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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 25, 2020 6:50:45 GMT
Upon the YouTube reveal, I just edited my most recent post. I was always on the fence with QT, but after what I just saw, my estimation of him dropped through the floor. I feel like writing my very first hate letter. Like you, I love QT (Quentin Tarantino), dirtypillows! But he is what he is, and he's not like the best of the drive-in era filmmakers he idolises, who literally laid everything on the line (mortgage, marriage, freiendships etc.) in order to make the movies they believed in. QT did that once and failed - he needed the likes of Harvey Keitel and Steve Buscemi to step in and restart his career. A little humility goes a very long way, but we love QT for his brand of revisionist art nonetheless. I pretty much can't stand Quentin Tarantino. I like the KB movies because I love Uma Thurman. That's it.
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Post by petrolino on Oct 25, 2020 6:52:33 GMT
Like you, I love QT (Quentin Tarantino), dirtypillows! But he is what he is, and he's not like the best of the drive-in era filmmakers he idolises, who literally laid everything on the line (mortgage, marriage, freiendships etc.) in order to make the movies they believed in. QT did that once and failed - he needed the likes of Harvey Keitel and Steve Buscemi to step in and restart his career. A little humility goes a very long way, but we love QT for his brand of revisionist art nonetheless. I pretty much can't stand Quentin Tarantino. I like the KB movies because I love Uma Thurman. That's it. I think he's a briliant genre filmmaker, but also a reckless egomaniac who perfectly befits today's selfie culture.
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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 25, 2020 10:13:21 GMT
As Brian DePalma is one of my favorite directors, it seems odd that I only saw this movie for the first time 3-4 months ago. It was a genuine curio. I liked it. It was creepy and had a strong story and I liked the "phantom" character and Beef was very funny. It had atmosphere and I thought the songs were surprisingly good. That's cool that you chose the lead character for your avatar! I have always enjoyed it and while Rocky Horror Picture Show - 75' garnered so much more publicity, the similar Phantom is one that fell under the radar and they make a great double feature.
The music in Phantom isn't perhaps as catchy as Rocky's, but it operates on a more nostalgic and even sublime composition. The film is always appealing and fun to watch too. Beef is hilarious and his rapport with the fat manager dude plays out really well. So 70's and kinda funky too. As mentioned in a previous post, I do feel Ronstadt would have worked out better for the music than Harper who is a nothing really. She doesn't come through and is not that great a singer. I've seen Harper in maybe four movies and it always like she is determined not to display any emotion onscreen. It's weird and not all that endearing.
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Post by phantomoftheparadise on Oct 25, 2020 15:50:23 GMT
As Brian DePalma is one of my favorite directors, it seems odd that I only saw this movie for the first time 3-4 months ago. It was a genuine curio. I liked it. It was creepy and had a strong story and I liked the "phantom" character and Beef was very funny. It had atmosphere and I thought the songs were surprisingly good. That's cool that you chose the lead character for your avatar! Thank you for the kind words about the film, and about my choice of the Phantom as my IMDB2 icon!
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