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Post by Lebowskidoo ππ·π on Jun 24, 2017 21:28:47 GMT
HAM: An actor who overacts immensely, either going too far, or for lack of talent or proper training; an actor who seems fake or faking it.
We all know movie acting styles have evolved since movie making began, so not looking for those early actors who yelled like they had to be heard in the balcony seats, I mean the cheesiest of the cheesy!
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Post by Salzmank on Jun 24, 2017 22:44:50 GMT
Two come to mind, mostly because I've been thinking of '30s horrors of late: Tod Slaughter  and Carlos Villarias  Then, of course, Lionel Barrymore popped into my head, though he's an amiable old ham whose performances I've defended of late. 
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Post by wanton87 on Jun 24, 2017 22:58:01 GMT
Jerry Lewis, Lou Costello, and of course the Horowitz brothers (The 3 stooges).
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Post by bravomailer on Jun 24, 2017 22:59:14 GMT
Kirk Douglas
More teeth, Kirk! Stick your chest out more!
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Post by Lebowskidoo ππ·π on Jun 25, 2017 0:09:18 GMT
Two come to mind, mostly because I've been thinking of '30s horrors of late: Tod Slaughter  and Carlos Villarias  Then, of course, Lionel Barrymore popped into my head, though he's an amiable old ham whose performances I've defended of late.  The guy's name was "Slaughter" and he did horror? Hmmmm. That Carlos guy, I can tell by his face he must be a real ham!
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Post by Lebowskidoo ππ·π on Jun 25, 2017 0:11:24 GMT
Jerry Lewis, Lou Costello, and of course the Horowitz brothers (The 3 stooges). But they were all so reserved, especially Jerry Lewis!
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Post by Salzmank on Jun 25, 2017 1:07:21 GMT
Lebowskidoo ππ·π I love Tod Slaughter's movies. He is, quite frankly, an awful actor, but that's what makes the movies all the more enjoyable, in my opinion. The pictures are so over-the-top and wild, and so much fun. And--my God!--the "Slaughter" part of his name was actually his real name. Unbelievable. Carlos Villarias played Dracula in the Spanish-language version of the '31 Dracula (the English-language version starred Bela Lugosi, of course). The "Spanish version," as it's usually called (though it was made mostly for the Central American market), is really an excellent movie, but the most important performances--the Count himself and his arch-nemesis, Prof. Van Helsing--are far weaker than their counterparts in the English-language version. Still, it is to a great extent superior than the tedium of the English-language version, even if Villarias overacts wildly. (By the way, Lupita Tovar, an excellent and beautiful actress whose performance as the heroine was hugely superior to Helen Chandler's in the "English version," only passed away a few months ago, at the age of 106.)
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Post by koskiewicz on Jun 25, 2017 1:26:54 GMT
...WC Fields...hands down...!!!
..an honorable mention to Charles Laughton for the "Private Lives of Henry the VIII"
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Post by jeffersoncody on Jun 25, 2017 6:00:57 GMT
HAM: An actor who overacts immensely, either going too far, or for lack of talent or proper training; an actor who seems fake or faking it. We all know movie acting styles have evolved since movie making began, so not looking for those early actors who yelled like they had to be heard in the balcony seats, I mean the cheesiest of the cheesy! Vincent Price.
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Post by telegonus on Jun 25, 2017 7:41:53 GMT
Vincent Price, for sure, JC.
John Carradine's gotta be up there, though he could tone it down, as in, memorably, The Grapes Of Wrath.
Ernest Thesiger, for sure, especially his Dr. Praetorious in Bride Of Frankenstein.
Wallace Beery, most of the time, especially as he grew older.
An obscure one, and best remembered as Ming the Merciless in the Flash Gordon serials of the Thirties, Charles Middleton strikes me as hammy even when standing still and doing nothing. Maybe it's his face.
J. Carrol Naish could really go over the top, especially when in Life With Luigi mode, when playing Italian. Good actor, but was he ever subtle? Victory Jory was like that, too. I enjoy watching them, though.
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Post by Lebowskidoo ππ·π on Jun 25, 2017 13:16:57 GMT
Lebowskidoo ππ·π I love Tod Slaughter's movies. He is, quite frankly, an awful actor, but that's what makes the movies all the more enjoyable, in my opinion. The pictures are so over-the-top and wild, and so much fun. And--my God!--the "Slaughter" part of his name was actually his real name. Unbelievable. Carlos Villarias played Dracula in the Spanish-language version of the '31 Dracula (the English-language version starred Bela Lugosi, of course). The "Spanish version," as it's usually called (though it was made mostly for the Central American market), is really an excellent movie, but the most important performances--the Count himself and his arch-nemesis, Prof. Van Helsing--are far weaker than their counterparts in the English-language version. Still, it is to a great extent superior than the tedium of the English-language version, even if Villarias overacts wildly. (By the way, Lupita Tovar, an excellent and beautiful actress whose performance as the heroine was hugely superior to Helen Chandler's in the "English version," only passed away a few months ago, at the age of 106.) As always, you are a bounty of information, thank you.
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Post by Lebowskidoo ππ·π on Jun 25, 2017 13:21:28 GMT
HAM: An actor who overacts immensely, either going too far, or for lack of talent or proper training; an actor who seems fake or faking it. We all know movie acting styles have evolved since movie making began, so not looking for those early actors who yelled like they had to be heard in the balcony seats, I mean the cheesiest of the cheesy! Vincent Price. Vincent Price could ham it up from time to time, I've noticed that. But other times he was so good, plus his overall career helps me to overlook his hamiest moments.
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Post by Lebowskidoo ππ·π on Jun 25, 2017 13:25:59 GMT
Surprised no one mentioned Porky Pig yet. Get it? Pig? Ham? 
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 25, 2017 13:28:46 GMT
Surprised no one mentioned Porky Pig yet. Get it? Pig? Ham? Traditional THWAP for that one ! 
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Post by Lebowskidoo ππ·π on Jun 25, 2017 13:31:56 GMT
Surprised no one mentioned Porky Pig yet. Get it? Pig? Ham? Traditional THWAP for that one !  I deserve that. Was going to mention either Jon Hamm or Kevin Bacon but neither one was around during the classic era.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 25, 2017 13:46:25 GMT
Lebowskidoo ππ·πNot strict sticklers for the "classic" era thingy. Especially when the Hamm and Bacon wudda sizzled.  (hey that gave me a good idea for a game topic  )
Still working on the "what constitutes hammy in the over-acting sense". Perhaps some of the actors who insist on yelling their lines (Pacino, Nicholson) come to mind but that really is not what would be considered as "hammy". Or would it ? Dare I suggest Brando when he got to the "I am GREAT! so pay me my millions for my cameo and let me get back to my islnd" stage ? The note about Kirk made me laugh !
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Post by jervistetch on Jun 25, 2017 13:50:19 GMT
CHARLTON HESTON!!!!
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 25, 2017 13:54:24 GMT
OMG YES ! In a dictionary next to HAMMY they could have his picture ! PERFECT ! (Except perhaps in the Greatest Show on Earth and even then, maybe. )
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 25, 2017 13:56:36 GMT
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Post by jeffersoncody on Jun 25, 2017 18:05:09 GMT
Vincent Price could ham it up from time to time, I've noticed that. But other times he was so good, plus his overall career helps me to overlook his hamiest moments. I didn't say I didn't like Vincent Price. Check out his supporting performance in great technicolor noir LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN www.youtube.com/watch?v=27cVqvP9QmQ
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