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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 14:34:05 GMT
So do you distinguish what you say is your favorite movie from the movie you think is the greatest ?
Personally i don`t.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 14:37:57 GMT
Yeah I kinda do. For example, while Se7en & Drive are some of my all time favorites, I realize they really aren't the "greatest film of all time" in the likes of all time classics like The Godfather or Citizen Kane or Lawrence of Arabia . But I have absolutely no problem with folks that do not distinguish between the two.
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Post by schizkebab on Jun 27, 2017 14:39:20 GMT
For the most part, yes.
I base "greatest" on technical merit. I base "favorite" on a more personal level.
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Post by vegalyra on Jun 27, 2017 16:04:28 GMT
Well, my favorite overall two films are generally considered within the "greatest" category.
Lawrence of Arabia and Vertigo.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 27, 2017 16:12:40 GMT
Yes, of course.
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Post by Jerk on Jun 27, 2017 17:14:28 GMT
I only deal in favourites with movies. Don't care about greatest.
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Post by Reynard on Jun 27, 2017 17:19:34 GMT
As individuals we all have our value systems, aesthetics and other affinities. Art is, I think, successfully communicating those things. That someone else has succeeded in that, thus making a great piece of art that I can (somewhat) objectively recognize as such (I would say that it is great and worth recommending) doesn't mean that I personally have to like it.
Personal favorites go into roughly 2 categories, since great art does not necessarily equal great entertainment and vice versa. Peckinpah's movies are not similar to those of Tarkovsky though they were both genuine, uncompromising artists and I like both. Tarkovsky's could be better from "objective" point of view but I enjoy watching Peckinpah's films more because they are easier, having more entertainment value, and Peckinpah's affinities are more similar to mine than Tarkovsky's.
As such, Tarkovsky would be "great", Peckinpah a "favorite" and Sergei Parajanov for example someone who is objectively a great artist that I personally don't care for at all.
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Post by Marv on Jun 27, 2017 18:48:32 GMT
No.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Jun 27, 2017 18:56:49 GMT
Yes. Road House perfectly illustrates why. While it's a guilty pleasure favorite of mine, I'd be hard pressed to find anyone who claims it's an example of great cinema.
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Post by drystyx on Jun 27, 2017 18:57:13 GMT
Usually not. There is the slightest difference in that "favorite" may be something more for pleasure, while "greatest" combines pleasure with deep thoughts.
It would be hard to call the great comedies "great" in that there are no deep lessons in the Marx Brothers hoodwinking deputies and hotel dicks, but they're great comedies.
And THE KING OF KINGS 1927 has to be among consideration for greatest film ever, but it's hardly a "favorite", even though there are sects of even Christians who are into sadism and masochism. As a History, it is great, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 23:20:31 GMT
So do you distinguish what you say is your favorite movie from the movie you think is the greatest ? Personally i don`t. Of course. Some of my favorite movies are turkeys (Plan 9 From Outer Space, Nothing But Trouble) while some of the greatest films I've seen aren't particularly favorites.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 17:25:14 GMT
Yes, I do make that distinction sometimes.
Sometimes the movie I love the most from an actor or filmmakers' catalogue isn't the best or most accomplished thing they've done.
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Post by Raimo47 on Jun 28, 2017 17:49:49 GMT
No.
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Post by maxwellperfect on Jun 28, 2017 18:12:59 GMT
Since a list of my favorite movies would include 'Killer Klowns from Outer Space' I feel that I would be obliged to make that distinction.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 29, 2017 2:35:12 GMT
Sometimes.
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 29, 2017 2:48:41 GMT
Definitely not, they are the same. It makes no sense to say Movie A is "better" than Movie B if you personally enjoy watching Movie B more. I ultimately judge movies based on how interesting they are to watch and the further they get away from that the lower the rating. it's the only honest way to rate movies otherwise your pretty much just going through the usual routine of kissing up to movies critics like pretty much and since movies are always subjective there is no real concrete way to measure 'quality' etc. i know from a more technical/visual aspect you can sorta gauge this stuff to some degree but still... movies are ultimately about personal enjoyment. p.s. only 196 movies out of the 2,100+ total movies i have seen scored a 7/10 or higher. i don't restrict ratings just to restrict them it's simply that there are not that many movies out there that entertain me to a higher degree is all. here is how my ratings break down in basic terms... 10/10's = 10 movies, 9/10's = 17 movies, 8/10's = 80 movies, 7/10's = 89 movies. that adds up to 196 movies. the best of the rest (i.e. 6-6.5/10's) adds an additional 50 movies for a total of 246 movies. Spike Del ReyThat's within my Top 196 movies (which make up My Favorite Movies) as i simply enjoy watching it more than the vast majority of movies i have seen in total. it's only those who buy into that 'kissing up to some movies because critics do' mindset (and the like) that gets people to downplay movies they like. I don't see Road House as a guilty pleasure as it's just a good movie. it's pretty unique if you ask me with it's overall feel/style etc. hell, even buying into that whole 'guilty pleasure' mindset... i am sure i could find movies that would be considered lower than that but that i enjoy.
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Post by camimac on Jun 29, 2017 2:54:44 GMT
yes I do distinguish favorite movies from greatest. For example, Highlander Endgame is one of my favorite movies. I like the actors in the movie. There are scenes and dialog in this movie that are priceless. I can go on at length about why I really like this move. But, I don't delude my self, this movie is far from great. Kingdom of Heaven is also a favorite, but not great movie to me. Now, LOTR trilogy, Lawrence of Arabia are both on my favorite movies and great movies list, Gladiator makes my favorite and great movies list, Amadeus does too and many others. Then there are movies that I think are great, but they aren't on my favorite movie list, like Gandhi for instance. Its a great movie like beets are a great vegetable. I watch Gandhi, I eat beets because I know they are good for me, not because they are my favorites.
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Post by brownstones on Jun 29, 2017 3:06:35 GMT
I can......sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 8:47:48 GMT
Definitely not, they are the same. It makes no sense to say Movie A is "better" than Movie B if you personally enjoy watching Movie B more. This is the same way i view it.
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Post by sdm3 on Jun 29, 2017 9:05:28 GMT
Yes I do. I can love a film for personal and nostalgic reasons while acknowledging it technically sucks.
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