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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 22:16:15 GMT
I'm not taking anything too seriously. I'm just tired of Snyder's Randist Nihilist Pseudoman and I'm tired of having to explain over and over again that he is not a deconstruction. So I'm putting the full argue up and will occasionally bump it. but...........it's 1300 words, maybe a few hundred fine.......but 3 pages worth? Do you have any idea how easy it is for me to punch out that many words? I'm a natural writer. Its what I do. Believe me, this would be the length of a Stephen King novel if I were taking this way too seriously.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 27, 2017 22:23:26 GMT
I'm surprised DC-Fan hasn't popped up yet, I guess because you didn't bring up Marvel.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 27, 2017 22:23:48 GMT
wow, so WB/DC is really committed to making sure an entire generation of children will never have a proper Superman. Can't have the kiddies getting any bright ideas like altruism and selflessness, after all. again, you use words without understanding their meaning, raptor. Altruism and selflessness are essentially synonyms; and did you not see the movies? Did Supes not willingly give his life to save the world in BvS, was not his last wish to have Bats save his mom, etc. Guess that is selfish and egocentric in your warped raptor mind, eh? But please spare us your relentless whining about kids not having proper superheroes. Apart from this, kiddies will certainly not learn altruism from endless "I don't care, he killed my mom" clobbering scenes between Cappy and IronFan. "You must save Martha" sounds a lot better in this regard, huh? Well... To be fair... He could have just thrown the spear at Doomsday. Just saying. His sacrifice made no sense. It brought nothing to the series besides having him missing from the next movie so they don't win the day in the beginning like Goku.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 27, 2017 22:25:36 GMT
I'm surprised DC-Fan hasn't popped up yet, I guess because you didn't bring up Marvel. I don't think he actually likes DC. I think he just wants to hate Marvel.
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Post by brownstones on Jun 27, 2017 22:26:08 GMT
but...........it's 1300 words, maybe a few hundred fine.......but 3 pages worth? Do you have any idea how easy it is for me to punch out that many words? I'm a natural writer. Its what I do. Believe me, this would be the length of a Stephen King novel if I were taking this way too seriously. you're not flamboyantdevil (back from imdb) are you? because I recall he would state being a writer quite often.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 27, 2017 22:27:54 GMT
I'm surprised DC-Fan hasn't popped up yet, I guess because you didn't bring up Marvel. I don't think he actually likes DC. I think he just wants to hate Marvel. True.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 22:32:15 GMT
Do you have any idea how easy it is for me to punch out that many words? I'm a natural writer. Its what I do. Believe me, this would be the length of a Stephen King novel if I were taking this way too seriously. you're not flamboyantdevil (back from imdb) are you? because I recall he would state being a writer quite often. No, my username has been WeirdRaptor since 2003.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 22:37:35 GMT
again, you use words without understanding their meaning, raptor. Altruism and selflessness are essentially synonyms; and did you not see the movies? Did Supes not willingly give his life to save the world in BvS, was not his last wish to have Bats save his mom, etc. Guess that is selfish and egocentric in your warped raptor mind, eh? But please spare us your relentless whining about kids not having proper superheroes. Apart from this, kiddies will certainly not learn altruism from endless "I don't care, he killed my mom" clobbering scenes between Cappy and IronFan. "You must save Martha" sounds a lot better in this regard, huh? Well... To be fair... He could have just thrown the spear at Doomsday. Just saying. His sacrifice made no sense. It brought nothing to the series besides having him missing from the next movie so they don't win the day in the beginning like Goku. Not to mention that Superman's sacrifice wasn't altruism. It was pure stupidity.
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Post by havenless on Jun 28, 2017 0:09:06 GMT
but...........it's 1300 words, maybe a few hundred fine.......but 3 pages worth? Do you have any idea how easy it is for me to punch out that many words? I'm a natural writer. Its what I do. Believe me, this would be the length of a Stephen King novel if I were taking this way too seriously. And hubris to boot; you're quite the catch.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jun 28, 2017 8:01:00 GMT
thus rambled the weirdraptor: ah, here we go with a Black or White fallacy again (it's one of your favorites). yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white
Acts of altruism can be stupid, those states are not mutually exclusive. Learn the meaning of words and logical argument before typing verbose rants.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jun 28, 2017 8:30:49 GMT
again, you use words without understanding their meaning, raptor. Altruism and selflessness are essentially synonyms; and did you not see the movies? Did Supes not willingly give his life to save the world in BvS, was not his last wish to have Bats save his mom, etc. Guess that is selfish and egocentric in your warped raptor mind, eh? But please spare us your relentless whining about kids not having proper superheroes. Apart from this, kiddies will certainly not learn altruism from endless "I don't care, he killed my mom" clobbering scenes between Cappy and IronFan. "You must save Martha" sounds a lot better in this regard, huh? Well... To be fair... He could have just thrown the spear at Doomsday. Just saying. His sacrifice made no sense. It brought nothing to the series besides having him missing from the next movie so they don't win the day in the beginning like Goku.
well, we are not discussing whether Supes's attacks in heated battle were reasonable or the best option. But I think throwing from a distance would be less effective as you cannot steer the spear, and there is the risk that the target deflects or evades the missile. As they say, you have to get close to strike the heart. In the end such scenes of self sacrifice are rather intended to serve the purposes of drama and character arcs than being convincing last resort solutions. Also Supes death propelled Bats character arc from xenophobic lone wolf vigilante to a guy willing to use superhumans and aliens to form a justice league, ... and not branding his victims like cattle anymore. I have no idea what Goku is though, I live far away from Nerdistan. So the writing and arcs are conclusive, and serve a higher narrative purpose. Solid.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 28, 2017 18:58:32 GMT
Well... To be fair... He could have just thrown the spear at Doomsday. Just saying. His sacrifice made no sense. It brought nothing to the series besides having him missing from the next movie so they don't win the day in the beginning like Goku.
well, we are not discussing whether Supes's attacks in heated battle were reasonable or the best option. But I think throwing from a distance would be less effective as you cannot steer the spear, and there is the risk that the target deflects or evades the missile. As they say, you have to get close to strike the heart. In the end such scenes of self sacrifice are rather intended to serve the purposes of drama and character arcs than being convincing last resort solutions. Also Supes death propelled Bats character arc from xenophobic lone wolf vigilante to a guy willing to use superhumans and aliens to form a justice league, ... and not branding his victims like cattle anymore. I have no idea what Goku is though, I live far away from Nerdistan. So the writing and arcs are conclusive, and serve a higher narrative purpose. Solid. In heated battle? He was talking with Lois and said goodbye after saving her. It's not like he was actively fighting saw the spear and immediately went at Doomsday on impulse. He saved Lois and thought about it. But why? Why would he need to be propelled from being a xenophobic lone wolf vigilante? Is the only way to get Batman to change his mind on something is to have the share mother's name and kill yourself? "Because this guy's mother's name is Martha and he threw himself out a window to save that kitten... I think I will have ketchup on my burger." Goku is the lead character on Dragon Ball Z. He routinely dies or gets hurt so bad that he can't fight the big bad of the story. So all the other weaker characters have to fight until he shows up and wins the day. He's the Superman of the show. And you are on a movie forum talking about superheroes. You are a city councilman in Nerdistan. Also, Thundercats avatar. And, no, the writing and arcs are not conclusive and does not serve a higher narrative. It did not serve any purpose of drama. They just thought they'd throw in a major storyline from the comics. They did Knightfall so why not do Death of Superman and Funeral for a Friend out of nowhere in 15 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 22:02:00 GMT
well, we are not discussing whether Supes's attacks in heated battle were reasonable or the best option. But I think throwing from a distance would be less effective as you cannot steer the spear, and there is the risk that the target deflects or evades the missile. As they say, you have to get close to strike the heart. In the end such scenes of self sacrifice are rather intended to serve the purposes of drama and character arcs than being convincing last resort solutions. Also Supes death propelled Bats character arc from xenophobic lone wolf vigilante to a guy willing to use superhumans and aliens to form a justice league, ... and not branding his victims like cattle anymore. I have no idea what Goku is though, I live far away from Nerdistan. So the writing and arcs are conclusive, and serve a higher narrative purpose. Solid. In heated battle? He was talking with Lois and said goodbye after saving her. It's not like he was actively fighting saw the spear and immediately went at Doomsday on impulse. He saved Lois and thought about it. But why? Why would he need to be propelled from being a xenophobic lone wolf vigilante? Is the only way to get Batman to change his mind on something is to have the share mother's name and kill yourself? "Because this guy's mother's name is Martha and he threw himself out a window to save that kitten... I think I will have ketchup on my burger." Goku is the lead character on Dragon Ball Z. He routinely dies or gets hurt so bad that he can't fight the big bad of the story. So all the other weaker characters have to fight until he shows up and wins the day. He's the Superman of the show. And you are on a movie forum talking about superheroes. You are a city councilman in Nerdistan. Also, Thundercats avatar. And, no, the writing and arcs are not conclusive and does not serve a higher narrative. It did not serve any purpose of drama. They just thought they'd throw in a major storyline from the comics. They did Knightfall so why not do Death of Superman and Funeral for a Friend out of nowhere in 15 minutes. You're trying to talk sense into a guy who insists on talking to people he claims are beneath him. He's also latched obsessively onto me for some reason.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Jun 29, 2017 7:40:05 GMT
i'm not here to talk about Doctor Who.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 1:39:18 GMT
Bumped because it tells an inconvenient truth to Snyderites.
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Post by brownstones on Jul 8, 2017 2:41:16 GMT
still waiting for my 10 dollars.
send through paypal please.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 9, 2017 10:39:03 GMT
I think his adaptation of Watchmen proves Snyder doesn't even know what deconstruction is. He just likes ruthless psychopaths with aaaabs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 18:14:49 GMT
I think his adaptation of Watchmen proves Snyder doesn't even know what deconstruction is. He just likes ruthless psychopaths with aaaabs. Finally, someone who gets it. Quite correct. Deconstruction isn't just "look at how uncool the version of this character is with the kids today. He needs to become an ultraviolent edgelord!" I thoroughly explained what real deconstruction is, so I can spare us all a repeat of that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 21:54:23 GMT
This is the same tired argument that rapist Devin Faraci made a while back. I guess rapists think alike.
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Post by poelzig on Jul 9, 2017 22:10:05 GMT
but...........it's 1300 words, maybe a few hundred fine.......but 3 pages worth? Do you have any idea how easy it is for me to punch out that many words? I'm a natural writer. Its what I do. Believe me, this would be the length of a Stephen King novel if I were taking this way too seriously. He has the My Little Pony fan fiction to prove what a natural writer he is in case you're skeptical. Sadly for cap jr I'm not joking.
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