Can a movie be classified as both noir and thriller?

i think so. some IMDB films are classified as thriller or crime and not noir. but the term noir has really expanded and now encapsulates many films that might not normally be thoguht of as noir. i am not aware of any noir puritans on IMDB's board.

Yes, because Noir is not really a genre but a style. Though for all practical purposes it is convenient to treat it as a genre.

Feb 6, 2017 4:15:42 GMT -4 pimpinainteasy said:
I am not aware of any noir puritans on IMDB's board.

I am somewhat of a Noir puritan. It has got to the stage now where youngsters think any crime film in black and white from the 1940s or 1950s is a Noir, and many compilation sets of DVDs marketed exploit that misapprehension by packaging one or two genuine Noirs with a number of other movies which are not, because the label "Noir" is more marketable.

There was a frequent poster on IMDb (cannot remember his handle but something like "mgbtlp") who knew his Noirs and Neo-Noirs and introduced me to some new ones. My only quibble was his too wide interpretation of the term. On the other hand, someone recently posted on this board a definition that Noir should exclusively treat night-time scenes in urban mean streets.

This latter is way too restricting and would, for example, exclude one of the two greatest Noirs ever made. Much of "Out of the Past"(1947) takes place in a sunny Mexican beach resort, or in the Californian countryside, or in a deluxe Aspen mansion by daylight.