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Post by primeone on Jun 29, 2017 19:05:02 GMT
Now it's at 90% and still has way less than WW. This is exactly why you gotta stop hating on the DCEU. This won't stop Spider-Man from making more than WW and I'm not throwing shade, but how about you check those real numbers out kiddo.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 29, 2017 21:05:54 GMT
I was just amused by the WW Oscar talk and thought it was kind of amusing that a month later an equally reviewed film comes out. So are they now both Oscar worthy? How does that work? At this point of the year with so many movies still to come out it's really difficult to make accurate Oscar nominations. It all depends on the fact if the movies can keep the momentum and Oscar buzz going until the end of the year. And I think we still have to wait a little bit until we have more reviews for Spider-Man and until we get the response from the general audience. I'm happy this is such a good year for superheroes (Logan, Guardians 2, Wonder Woman and now Spider-Man) and we still have Thor: Ragnarok & Justice League coming out. I know. I'm just making a mockery of the WW deserves an Oscar stuff.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 29, 2017 21:07:50 GMT
Now it's at 90% and still has way less than WW. This is exactly why you gotta stop hating on the DCEU. This won't stop Spider-Man from making more than WW and I'm not throwing shade, but how about you check those real numbers out kiddo. I made the post is a joke dude, relax. But it's funny you're so upset you feel the need to call me "kiddo".
I'm not hating on DC when it's good. It's just that it hasn't been good.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 29, 2017 21:11:21 GMT
Not at all. First Avenger is a better film for sure, not to mention Guardians, Avengers, Civil War, Iron Man, Winter Soldier, Doctor Strange, etc, but regardless, I'm just curious how all the "Oscar" people think about better reviewed films that came out just a month after. Can you at least elaborate on why you believe that TFA is "for sure" a better movie? I'll into more detail later, but the ending was far more cohesive, the villain more detailed and relevant, and it actually added something to the overall MCU narrative, which I don't see much coming out of this film that will do that. The amazons will be in some more flashbacks I guess, but aside from that, it's not really mandatory viewing to determine what's going on in the DCU.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 29, 2017 21:42:39 GMT
How exactly can you determine what impact Wonder Woman will have on the overall narrative of the DCEU at this point?
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Post by primeone on Jun 29, 2017 23:20:11 GMT
Now it's at 90% and still has way less than WW. This is exactly why you gotta stop hating on the DCEU. This won't stop Spider-Man from making more than WW and I'm not throwing shade, but how about you check those real numbers out kiddo. I made the post is a joke dude, relax. But it's funny you're so upset you feel the need to call me "kiddo".
I'm not hating on DC when it's good. It's just that it hasn't been good.
Me calling you kiddo doesn't make me upset, so you absolutely don't make any sense at all. You are hating by the way
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 29, 2017 23:51:37 GMT
I see the satire here, but neither of these are worthy of the Oscar's...
...which is a huge compliment to both movies.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 30, 2017 0:21:49 GMT
Dont be delusional. It only has 26 reviews in RT compared to 300 for WW. Spider-Man: Homecoming now has twice as many reviews (52) and is down to 92%. So it's already started dropping with more reviews. At the rate it's dropping, it's going to be lower than Wonder Woman before it gets to 100 reviews.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 30, 2017 0:22:55 GMT
I see the satire here, but neither of these are worthy of the Oscar's... ...which is a huge compliment to both movies. A blockbuster movie getting nominated for a Best Picture Oscar is a pretty huge deal whenever it does happen. A CBM getting nominated for that award would be an even bigger deal.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 30, 2017 0:23:56 GMT
WW did have a 7.9 average rating with around 38 reviews. There's no telling where SMH will end up, but it looks like it's at least going to be on par with WW. In any case, it's good for both companies that they have well received movies. Agree. Also as per the initial reviews trend, SMH is not holding up on par with WW. SMH is dropping fast. Already dropped to 92% after 52 reviews. At this rate, its going to be lower than WW before it gets to 100 reviews.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 30, 2017 0:28:09 GMT
Now Spider Man has a higher rating and RottenTomatos is suddenly not relevant again. Look again. With more reviews, Spider-Man: Homecoming has now dropped to 92%. Like I told you before, the 96% RT rating for Spider-Man: Homecoming was irrelevant because it was too small a sample size. Now that there are more reviews, Spider-Man: Homecoming is dropping fast. At the rate it's dropping, Spider-Man: Homecoming will be lower than Wonder Woman before it gets to 100 reviews.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 30, 2017 0:29:13 GMT
92 right now with 39 reviews. will it settle on 80's? Sure looks like it. It's dropping fast.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 30, 2017 0:36:06 GMT
I see the satire here, but neither of these are worthy of the Oscar's... ...which is a huge compliment to both movies. A blockbuster movie getting nominated for a Best Picture Oscar is a pretty huge deal whenever it does happen. A CBM getting nominated for that award would be an even bigger deal. It would be historic. No CBM has ever been nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. But with the Golden Globes last year nominating a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever ( Deadpool, although that was for a Comedy category), the Academy (which has received criticism in recent years for the lack of diversity in their nominations) might follow the Golden Globes' lead and nominate Wonder Woman for a Best Picture Oscar this year.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jun 30, 2017 0:49:12 GMT
A blockbuster movie getting nominated for a Best Picture Oscar is a pretty huge deal whenever it does happen. A CBM getting nominated for that award would be an even bigger deal. It would be historic. No CBM has ever been nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. But with the Golden Globes last year nominating a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever ( Deadpool, although that was for a Comedy category), the Academy (which has received criticism in recent years for the lack of diversity in their nominations) might follow the Golden Globes' lead and nominate Wonder Woman for a Best Picture Oscar this year. Logan has a better chance of getting Best Picture. I'd settle for Patty getting Best Director. However, the Oscars are bullshit anyway and extremely bisased, considering Mel Gibson was snubbed for Best Director for Hacksaw Ridge (because of his past).
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 30, 2017 0:54:39 GMT
It would be historic. No CBM has ever been nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. But with the Golden Globes last year nominating a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever ( Deadpool, although that was for a Comedy category), the Academy (which has received criticism in recent years for the lack of diversity in their nominations) might follow the Golden Globes' lead and nominate Wonder Woman for a Best Picture Oscar this year. Logan has a better chance of getting Best Picture. It depends on how much Fox campaigns for Logan and/or how much WB campaigns for Wonder Woman. The Academy probably won't nominate both for Best Picture so if they nominate only 1, I think they're going to choose Wonder Woman because Wonder Woman has potentially a larger and more lasting impact on the industry than Logan.
I think Patty Jenkins also has a good chance to be nominated for Best Director. And I do think the Academy will nominate Hugh Jackman for Best Actor, but not for Logan. I think the Academy will nominate him for The Greatest Showman instead.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 30, 2017 1:16:06 GMT
The talk about Wonder Woman being considered for an Oscar came after they had a private screening for members of the Academy and there were comments suggesting Oscar nominations form some of the members not from the RottenTomatoes score. That's correct. It's not RT scores that determine if a movie is Oscar-worthy, the Academy doesn't give a shit about RT scores. The Academy likes loos at lots of different criteria, such as:
Is the movie risky or does the movie take risks or push the envelope? Is the movie historic or does the movie tell an interesting historical story? Does the movie have a significant impact on society or a significant impact on the industry?
There are lots of different criteria. And the reason Wonder Woman has a chance for an major Oscar nomination while Spider-Man: Homecoming has zero chance for a major Oscar nomination is because Wonder Woman checks off a lot of the boxes on the list that the Academy looks for, but Spider-Man: Homecoming doesn't check off any of those boxes. It's as simple as that.
Dude, you were making Oscar threads from the reviews and RT.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 30, 2017 1:21:40 GMT
Me calling you kiddo doesn't make me upset, so you absolutely don't make any sense at all. You are hating by the way No I'm just being honest. "kiddo" lol
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Post by primeone on Jun 30, 2017 4:42:52 GMT
Me calling you kiddo doesn't make me upset, so you absolutely don't make any sense at all. You are hating by the way No I'm just being honest. "kiddo" lol Not at all, hater
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 30, 2017 5:04:20 GMT
I see the satire here, but neither of these are worthy of the Oscar's... ...which is a huge compliment to both movies. A blockbuster movie getting nominated for a Best Picture Oscar is a pretty huge deal whenever it does happen. A CBM getting nominated for that award would be an even bigger deal. Eh. The Oscar's are pointless. They like the arthouse stuff, which can be good at times, but it usually ends up being pretentious bullshit. Again, if I was nominated for an Oscar, I would be honored. As a fan, I find it pointless and completely rigged 99% of the time.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 30, 2017 5:33:06 GMT
Oscars are normally reserved for ambitious pictures. A vanilla MCU flick like Spider-Man: Homecoming would be the last movie to be considered this year with creative powerhouses Logan and Wonder Woman getting more critical recognition. Agreed. Spider-Man: Homecoming is just another high school comedy movie. Has a high school comedy movie ever been nominated for an Oscar?
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