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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 30, 2017 5:34:02 GMT
No I'm just being honest. "kiddo" lol Not at all, hater Oh totally. It's just really funny that just a month after WW comes out, spider man hits with nearly identical ratings, and where are all the Oscar mentions? It just makes it so obvious how silly the Oscar calls for WW really are, and I thought it was pretty funny.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 30, 2017 5:38:36 GMT
Oscars are normally reserved for ambitious pictures. A vanilla MCU flick like Spider-Man: Homecoming would be the last movie to be considered this year with creative powerhouses Logan and Wonder Woman getting more critical recognition. Wonder Woman isn't a creative powerhouse. That's the point. Where do you get the idea that it's a creative powerhouse? It's the lovechild of First Avenger and Thor. There's nothing particularly inventive or substantial going on with it.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 30, 2017 5:41:41 GMT
How exactly can you determine what impact Wonder Woman will have on the overall narrative of the DCEU at this point? Tell me the element from it that has the potential to carry over into some larger plot narrative. Ares and the gods don't seem to be coming back. And there wasn't really anything else in the film that would seem to matter. Are you thinking the amazons are going to be significant later? I don't.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 30, 2017 6:26:29 GMT
How exactly can you determine what impact Wonder Woman will have on the overall narrative of the DCEU at this point? Tell me the element from it that has the potential to carry over into some larger plot narrative. Ares and the gods don't seem to be coming back. And there wasn't really anything else in the film that would seem to matter. Are you thinking the amazons are going to be significant later? I don't. For starters, the Amazons are reportedly going to be tied into the backstory of the mother boxes, which are the main macguffin of JL. Also, they're planning on doing a sequel for WW , so there's no telling what will be of significance later.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 30, 2017 6:30:50 GMT
Tell me the element from it that has the potential to carry over into some larger plot narrative. Ares and the gods don't seem to be coming back. And there wasn't really anything else in the film that would seem to matter. Are you thinking the amazons are going to be significant later? I don't. For starters, the Amazons are reportedly going to be tied into the backstory of the mother boxes, which are the main macguffin of JL. Also, they're planning on doing a sequel for WW , so there's no telling what will be of significance later. Well I enjoy how you said for one, as though there's some long list to review. And the amazons have some backstory with the mother box. Is that it?
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 30, 2017 7:01:42 GMT
For starters, the Amazons are reportedly going to be tied into the backstory of the mother boxes, which are the main macguffin of JL. Also, they're planning on doing a sequel for WW , so there's no telling what will be of significance later. Well I enjoy how you said for one, as though there's some long list to review. And the amazons have some backstory with the mother box. Is that it? No, there isn't a long list to review, because WW is the latest film in the series at the moment.
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Post by poelzig on Jun 30, 2017 7:21:21 GMT
So I guess Homecoming is going to take that Oscar nod from Wonder Woman. Surely they aren't going to nominate two comic book films right? Right now WW just has a 92 on RT with a 7.5 rating while SM has a 96 score with a 7.8 rating.
www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spider_man_homecoming
Obviously I'm poking fun at the whole WW Oscar talk, so yes, I'm having a rare moment of intentionally being a prick, but those are real numbers and I thought it was kind of funny given what I'd consider to be overpraise for WW. Black cast bias means the reviews are pointless. Reviewers are terrified to give it a bad review even if it's shitty less they be labeled an evil racist. Just a sad reality in out post racial utopia. It is amusing you are worshiping Homecoming Dance before you've seen it just like I said you would in another thread. "I'm having a rare moment of intentionally being a prick". That may be the most hilarious thing you've ever posted. Although maybe you're such a prick you really don't realize it any more. Anyway I hope it's good even though I don't like high school melodramas and I'm really bored with snarky curmudgeon Stark. Smart move by Marvel with the large black cast. That's one way to guarantee glowing reviews whether deserved or not. Well played giving Peter not one but TWO black love interests. Toss in numerous black villains, a fat Asian kid for that market and Iron Man and all the bases are covered. At least it has to be better than the last 3 disastrously awful Spidey movies, right? How could it not be?
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Post by sostie on Jun 30, 2017 8:56:13 GMT
92 right now with 39 reviews. will it settle on 80's? Sure looks like it. It's dropping fast. And now back up to 93%. It also has slightly less rotten reviews than Wonder Woman (SM 7%, WW 8%) But, it's early days .
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 30, 2017 9:27:27 GMT
Sure looks like it. It's dropping fast. And now back up to 93%. It also has slightly less rotten reviews than Wonder Woman (SM 7%, WW 8%) But, it's early days . Still too small a sample size for SM. SM currently has less than 1/5 as many reviews as WW. SM will drop further as more and more reviews come in.
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Post by primeone on Jun 30, 2017 12:27:24 GMT
Oh totally. It's just really funny that just a month after WW comes out, spider man hits with nearly identical ratings, and where are all the Oscar mentions? It just makes it so obvious how silly the Oscar calls for WW really are, and I thought it was pretty funny. What's funny is that you still a hater lol
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Post by furiousstyles77 on Jun 30, 2017 12:47:32 GMT
And now back up to 93%. It also has slightly less rotten reviews than Wonder Woman (SM 7%, WW 8%) But, it's early days . Still too small a sample size for SM. SM currently has less than 1/5 as many reviews as WW. SM will drop further as more and more reviews come in. Spiderman Homecoming is a better film than wonder woman , it is also better reviewed.
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Post by miike80 on Jun 30, 2017 12:49:06 GMT
94% now i won't say it's good or bad as i have not seen it. nor i have any intention to do so, it's just impressive that all CBM's this year have been well received so far
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 30, 2017 13:32:41 GMT
Wonder Woman isn't a creative powerhouse. That's the point. Where do you get the idea that it's a creative powerhouse? It's the lovechild of First Avenger and Thor. There's nothing particularly inventive or substantial going on with it. Considering the amount of movies you have seen, you probably will regard every war-themed movie as the lovechild of Captain America: First Avenger and Thor. No way. Platoon, Saving Private Ryan, Apocalypse Now, even something like The Great Escape. Those are war movies.
But again, calling WW a "creative powerhouse" but Spiderman isn't? Come on now. I'll give you one example of why Spiderman is more creative. The Vulture is established as a character whose motivations revolve around cannibalizing parts of damaged items for his own benefit,,, ya know,,, like a vulture. That's why his character is what it is and not some mad scientist.
What happened in WW that was particularly creative? She just hears about ares and leaves to stop him. There aren't any sub plots woven in, or other cultures she encounters. I actually wonder what would have happened if it was a German soldier she met and she thought they were the good guys. It's not like she bothered to find out why the fighting was going on. Would she have thought Ares was Woodrow Wilson? I just don't see any real exploration of anything going on.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 30, 2017 13:33:37 GMT
Oh totally. It's just really funny that just a month after WW comes out, spider man hits with nearly identical ratings, and where are all the Oscar mentions? It just makes it so obvious how silly the Oscar calls for WW really are, and I thought it was pretty funny. What's funny is that you still a hater lol I hate bad movies if that's what you mean, yeah.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 30, 2017 13:35:13 GMT
Black cast bias means the reviews are pointless. Reviewers are terrified to give it a bad review even if it's shitty less they be labeled an evil racist. Just a sad reality in out post racial utopia. Funny, I heard the same thing about them being afraid to give a female lead movie with a female director bad reviews because they were afraid to look sexist.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 30, 2017 13:38:08 GMT
No, there isn't a long list to review, because WW is the latest film in the series at the moment. And because outside of a possible flashback to the Amazons there's nothing in the film that could really affect the DCU. I mean the film is pretty simple . Diana leaves to stop Ares. She does. That's it. There aren't any sub plots or artifacts that come into play. No infinity gems or secondary characters or other races or cultures set up to make an impact. She just beelines it to Ares and stops him.
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Post by miike80 on Jun 30, 2017 13:59:29 GMT
Still too small a sample size for SM. SM currently has less than 1/5 as many reviews as WW. SM will drop further as more and more reviews come in. Spiderman Homecoming is a better film than wonder woman , it is also better reviewed.Don't know bout that yet. as you really don't know about spiderman being so great, as you have not seen it yet
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Post by miike80 on Jun 30, 2017 14:01:01 GMT
Considering the amount of movies you have seen, you probably will regard every war-themed movie as the lovechild of Captain America: First Avenger and Thor. No way. Platoon, Saving Private Ryan, Apocalypse Now, even something like The Great Escape. Those are war movies.
But again, calling WW a "creative powerhouse" but Spiderman isn't? Come on now. I'll give you one example of why Spiderman is more creative. The Vulture is established as a character whose motivations revolve around cannibalizing parts of damaged items,,, ya know,,, like a vulture.
What happened in WW that was particularly creative? She just hears about ares and leaves to stop him. There aren't any sub plots woven in, or other cultures she encounters. I actually wonder what would have happened if it was a German soldier she met and she thought they were the good guys. It's not like she bothered to find out why the fighting was going on. Would she have thought Ares was Woodrow Wilson? I just don't see any real exploration of anything going on.
Could you please praise the movie AFTER you see it? you know, like any normal person? thank you
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Post by furiousstyles77 on Jun 30, 2017 14:12:08 GMT
Spiderman Homecoming is a better film than wonder woman , it is also better reviewed.Don't know bout that yet. as you really don't know about spiderman being so great, as you have not seen it yet i have seen the film and its alot better than WW
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Post by miike80 on Jun 30, 2017 14:16:15 GMT
Don't know bout that yet. as you really don't know about spiderman being so great, as you have not seen it yet i have seen the film and its alot better than WW Sure, why not? trolling is not what it used to be these days
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