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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 19:19:26 GMT
Here's a thread to wildly speculate what you really think may happen next in the saga. A place once the movie is out, you get to gloat if you are right, or say "it was just a wild speculation anyway" if your are wrong.
Here's my wild one, wiped out from the bowels of IMDb somewhere:
We will see Lor San Tekka and Constable Zuvio in episode VIII. - I believe that a great deal of footage cementing Rey's background was intentionally cut from episode VII, enough to turn Lor San Tekka into a small part and eliminate Zuvio completely.
These scenes along with others will be incorporated into episode VIII as background on Rey is revealed, as well as the truth about Jakku's history with the Empire, and it's economy shortly after the Battle of Jakku. I expect a similar storyline revealing Kylo's treachery in the past to also be explored.
Of course if this doesn't happen, I'll just say they are saving it all for episode IX and remain relatively unscathed for 2 more years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 22:00:39 GMT
OK, Here's another bold prediction:
It will be revealed that Ben struck out against Luke's Academy because Luke refused to train him to fight until he allowed Luke to help him get his "inner Vader" under control. Snoke played that resentment and provided Ben with a cracked Kyber Crystal and the knowledge to produce his own saber.
An even bolder prediction: That crystal was found on Endor and was what remained of Vader's saber as debris from the Death Star rained on the forest moon.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 13:21:09 GMT
I"ll even get bolder, and remember I have absolutely no fear of being dead wrong"
It will be revealed that the "Map to Skywalker", actually the map to the first Jedi Temple, was found on Jakku in the ruins of the Empire's secret base by a certain scavenger to took it to her Mentor, her only "family" on that rock, who recognized what it was told her to tell no one of her discovery and to lay low until he returned.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 3, 2017 16:19:44 GMT
It will totally suck just as much ass as The Force Awakens, if not more so, and will be LOUSY with Disney Princess moments for Rey and all sorts of Disney magic that evinces a complete and fundamental misunderstanding of the Force and, really, the previous/real six Star Wars films -- BUT: Mark Hammill will be decent in it.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 3, 2017 16:28:31 GMT
Here's a thread to wildly speculate what you really think may happen next in the saga. A place once the movie is out, you get to gloat if you are right, or say "it was just a wild speculation anyway" if your are wrong. Here's my wild one, wiped out from the bowels of IMDb somewhere: We will see Lor San Tekka and Constable Zuvio in episode VIII. - I believe that a great deal of footage cementing Rey's background was intentionally cut from episode VII, enough to turn Lor San Tekka into a small part and eliminate Zuvio completely. These scenes along with others will be incorporated into episode VIII as background on Rey is revealed, as well as the truth about Jakku's history with the Empire, and it's economy shortly after the Battle of Jakku. I expect a similar storyline revealing Kylo's treachery in the past to also be explored. Of course if this doesn't happen, I'll just say they are saving it all for episode IX and remain relatively unscathed for 2 more years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 17:50:46 GMT
Here's a thread to wildly speculate what you really think may happen next in the saga. A place once the movie is out, you get to gloat if you are right, or say "it was just a wild speculation anyway" if your are wrong. Here's my wild one, wiped out from the bowels of IMDb somewhere: We will see Lor San Tekka and Constable Zuvio in episode VIII. - I believe that a great deal of footage cementing Rey's background was intentionally cut from episode VII, enough to turn Lor San Tekka into a small part and eliminate Zuvio completely. These scenes along with others will be incorporated into episode VIII as background on Rey is revealed, as well as the truth about Jakku's history with the Empire, and it's economy shortly after the Battle of Jakku. I expect a similar storyline revealing Kylo's treachery in the past to also be explored. Of course if this doesn't happen, I'll just say they are saving it all for episode IX and remain relatively unscathed for 2 more years. Max von Sydow's character and The guy they made all the action figures for but was cut from the film.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 18:03:36 GMT
It will totally suck just as much ass as The Force Awakens, if not more so, and will be LOUSY with Disney Princess moments for Rey and all sorts of Disney magic that evinces a complete and fundamental misunderstanding of the Force and, really, the previous/real six Star Wars films -- BUT: Mark Hammill will be decent in it. A prediction is a prediction! Thanks! I think Hamill will be good as well. I'm hoping that Rian Johnson takes the story into one that makes some people scream RETCON! , when actually many of the ideas about The Force Awakens are because the viewer has filled in the parts of the story that haven't been told with their own preconceptions. There are lots of different interpretations of the Force running around. I've got what are considered "wild ideas" about that now, that weren't so wild ideas 20 to 30 years ago. I always direct others to this interview with George Lucas before delving into that subject:
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Post by shinnickneth on Mar 3, 2017 18:55:50 GMT
We will see Lor San Tekka and Constable Zuvio in episode VIII. - I believe that a great deal of footage cementing Rey's background was intentionally cut from episode VII, enough to turn Lor San Tekka into a small part and eliminate Zuvio completely. Apparently, Wedge Antilles was originally meant to be the one to give the information to Poe in Episode 7. However, Denis Lawson who played him in the OT didn't want to return for a such as small part in the movie so they had to create a new character (Lor San Tekka) instead. That's why Lor San Tekka is barely in the movie. In terms of Constable Zuvio, we're given a bit of information on him in The Visual Dictionary for The Force Awakens. It says:
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Post by shinnickneth on Mar 3, 2017 18:58:22 GMT
It will totally suck just as much ass as The Force Awakens, if not more so, and will be LOUSY with Disney Princess moments for Rey and all sorts of Disney magic that evinces a complete and fundamental misunderstanding of the Force and, really, the previous/real six Star Wars films -- BUT: Mark Hammill will be decent in it.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 3, 2017 19:25:31 GMT
Max von Sydow's character and The guy they made all the action figures for but was cut from the film.Oh right, him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 19:45:38 GMT
We will see Lor San Tekka and Constable Zuvio in episode VIII. - I believe that a great deal of footage cementing Rey's background was intentionally cut from episode VII, enough to turn Lor San Tekka into a small part and eliminate Zuvio completely. Apparently, Wedge Antilles was originally meant to be the one to give the information to Poe in Episode 7. However, Denis Lawson who played him in the OT didn't want to return for a such as small part in the movie so they had to create a new character (Lor San Tekka) instead. That's why Lor San Tekka is barely in the movie. In terms of Constable Zuvio, we're given a bit of information on him in The Visual Dictionary for The Force Awakens. It says: Do you find it odd that his scenes weren't at least part of the released deleted scenes? There are possibilities I see here. Either there's a big twist Rian Johnson designed back there that makes the character unusable, or the story was changed to make his one for "another time". Otherwise, why not just release those scenes?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 3, 2017 20:19:36 GMT
It will totally suck just as much ass as The Force Awakens, if not more so, and will be LOUSY with Disney Princess moments for Rey and all sorts of Disney magic that evinces a complete and fundamental misunderstanding of the Force and, really, the previous/real six Star Wars films -- BUT: Mark Hammill will be decent in it. "So be it, Jedi."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 20:28:00 GMT
I've got one: Luke Skywalker is going to be revealed as Snoke. It makes sense, he's a Skywalker, so extremely likely to give in to the Dark Side.
And there's still the matter of bringing balance to the Force. It still has not happened, because Jedis are as extreme as the Sith. You can't excise emotions and expect to be healthy. The balance comes from within, and I expect Rey to be the first true completely balanced Jedi/Sith.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 3, 2017 20:40:51 GMT
I've got one: Luke Skywalker is going to be revealed as Snoke. It makes sense, he's a Skywalker, so extremely likely to give in to the Dark Side. And there's still the matter of bringing balance to the Force. It still has not happened, because Jedis are as extreme as the Sith. You can't excise emotions and expect to be healthy. The balance comes from within, and I expect Rey to be the first true completely balanced Jedi/Sith. I expect her to be a one-dimensional, overpowered little clown who undercuts and embarrasses strong female characters rather than empowering them because she's flawless, inaccessible, and lacks "a journey." I honestly expect her at the outset of the movie to be explaining nuances of the Force to Luke not unlike how she smugly taught Han Solo all about the ship he flew around the galaxy for fifty bloody years. And for her voice to somehow be even more SHRILL than the last torturous go-around. The Luke thing, on the other hand, would be fairly shocking and compelling.
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Post by shinnickneth on Mar 3, 2017 22:36:06 GMT
I've got one: Luke Skywalker is going to be revealed as Snoke. It makes sense, he's a Skywalker, so extremely likely to give in to the Dark Side. No, that would be silly.
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Post by shinnickneth on Mar 3, 2017 22:40:21 GMT
Do you find it odd that his scenes weren't at least part of the released deleted scenes? There are possibilities I see here. Either there's a big twist Rian Johnson designed back there that makes the character unusable, or the story was changed to make his one for "another time". Otherwise, why not just release those scenes? It's a little strange, but of course, we haven't seen the footage. Perhaps the scene is terrible in tone or acting? Perhaps the scene(s) got cut early and they never finished postproduction on it? Perhaps the scene slowed down the movie and that's why it was cut? There are many different possible reasons behind why it was never released in one form or another. I suppose we'll never know until someone like Abrams explains why the character didn't make the cut. As it was, I think they included too many characters in Episode 7.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 3, 2017 22:43:13 GMT
I've got one: Luke Skywalker is going to be revealed as Snoke. It makes sense, he's a Skywalker, so extremely likely to give in to the Dark Side. No, that would be silly. OF COURSE it would be silly, but in an "AU" where the battle of Endor basically meant nothing, Han Solo is a deadbeat dad, Rey is so powerful there's no point to even making the movies, Princess Leia is a frigid hack workaholic, and Luke Skywalker is a loser, failure, and a bitch living in exile... I mean, really, at that point who cares?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 8:28:44 GMT
OF COURSE it would be silly, but in an "AU" where the battle of Endor basically meant nothing, Han Solo is a deadbeat dad, Rey is so powerful there's no point to even making the movies, Princess Leia is a frigid hack workaholic, and Luke Skywalker is a loser, failure, and a bitch living in exile... I mean, really, at that point who cares?
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That and otherwise it's going to be another character only known to avid readers of the books, never seen in a movie before, maybe mentioned once before (Darth Plageuis I believe is the top contender for being Snook?) and no one will care at all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 21:02:11 GMT
I predict that Kylo will destroy Snoke. Not in the whole Vader redemption sort of way but rather to usurp him and become the new leader of the First Order.
Why? Because unless they're going to end the trilogy the same way as the original trilogy (which would be pathetically redundant) then it's a bit unnecessary to have two main villains. The Emperor basically existed simply to be the ultimate baddie for Vader to turn against. So if they're not going that route here I don't see Snoke making it past this movie. Unless they decide to flesh him out and make him less of a prop, but I don't see that happening either.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 2:01:47 GMT
Admiral Raddus will be revealed as Ackbar's father
Maz is Chewbacca's mother making their relationship even weirder
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