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Post by hardball on Jun 30, 2017 16:04:06 GMT
Now brand new comments regarding the situation have come to light courtesy of Pascal. While doing a set of press rounds for Homecoming, the film producer talked to Fandom and cleared the air up regarding the confusion: “First, there is Spider-Man happily in the place where he’s supposed to be which is in the Marvel Universe. I think everything comes from that. This is the signpost, the tentpole, the signature and… the other movies that Sony’s going to make, in their relationship to this [MCU] Spider-Man, take place in this [separate Sony] world. Although you’re not going to see them in the Marvel Universe, it’s in the same reality.”
Feige, who was also present in the interview seconded his co-producer’s statement saying that it is “the perfect answer.” Understanding the statement, it seems that we are back again to Pascal’s earlier stance about the MCU and the off-shoots “adjunct” with each other. This time, however, both of the film execs are in unison about it, contradicting the previously existing stand on the piece that the two cinematic worlds are separate. Basing from Pascal and Feige’s most recent consensual comment it sounds like they are keeping things in limbo for now which gives them time to sort out any possibilities of crossovers in the future without committing to it to the public right away. By not having a definitive plan (which more likely is how it is behind closed doors), they are not tied to something that might eventually fall apart before it event started. Full article here
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 30, 2017 16:50:29 GMT
I think it was suppose to be a big announcement. Pascal just jumped the gun a bit and said it on a random interview. I'm thinking Feige would have announced it at a Comic-Con. Maybe Pascal wanted her time to shine and said it before he could.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 30, 2017 17:08:26 GMT
Fascinating way of putting it.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 30, 2017 18:37:41 GMT
Now brand new comments regarding the situation have come to light courtesy of Pascal. While doing a set of press rounds for Homecoming, the film producer talked to Fandom and cleared the air up regarding the confusion: “First, there is Spider-Man happily in the place where he’s supposed to be which is in the Marvel Universe. I think everything comes from that. This is the signpost, the tentpole, the signature and… the other movies that Sony’s going to make, in their relationship to this [MCU] Spider-Man, take place in this [separate Sony] world. Although you’re not going to see them in the Marvel Universe, it’s in the same reality.”
Feige, who was also present in the interview seconded his co-producer’s statement saying that it is “the perfect answer.” Understanding the statement, it seems that we are back again to Pascal’s earlier stance about the MCU and the off-shoots “adjunct” with each other. This time, however, both of the film execs are in unison about it, contradicting the previously existing stand on the piece that the two cinematic worlds are separate. Basing from Pascal and Feige’s most recent consensual comment it sounds like they are keeping things in limbo for now which gives them time to sort out any possibilities of crossovers in the future without committing to it to the public right away. By not having a definitive plan (which more likely is how it is behind closed doors), they are not tied to something that might eventually fall apart before it event started. Full article here This is exactly what I've thought was going on all along. I don't understand the confusion.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 18:48:59 GMT
So it isnt MCU but it doesnt bite the MCU as well. So if the quality is good and the Marvel Sony relationship matures and developes they can bring the movies in?
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Jun 30, 2017 21:25:48 GMT
Now brand new comments regarding the situation have come to light courtesy of Pascal. While doing a set of press rounds for Homecoming, the film producer talked to Fandom and cleared the air up regarding the confusion: “First, there is Spider-Man happily in the place where he’s supposed to be which is in the Marvel Universe. I think everything comes from that. This is the signpost, the tentpole, the signature and… the other movies that Sony’s going to make, in their relationship to this [MCU] Spider-Man, take place in this [separate Sony] world. Although you’re not going to see them in the Marvel Universe, it’s in the same reality.”
Feige, who was also present in the interview seconded his co-producer’s statement saying that it is “the perfect answer.” Understanding the statement, it seems that we are back again to Pascal’s earlier stance about the MCU and the off-shoots “adjunct” with each other. This time, however, both of the film execs are in unison about it, contradicting the previously existing stand on the piece that the two cinematic worlds are separate. Basing from Pascal and Feige’s most recent consensual comment it sounds like they are keeping things in limbo for now which gives them time to sort out any possibilities of crossovers in the future without committing to it to the public right away. By not having a definitive plan (which more likely is how it is behind closed doors), they are not tied to something that might eventually fall apart before it event started. Full article here This is exactly what I've thought was going on all along. I don't understand the confusion. There is no confusion. It's a baseless statement that means less than nothing. It's an extremely ingenious way for Sony to capitalize on the Marvel brand while only having to pay lip service to a shared universe. Kevin had to play ball. That's obvious. But, he loses nothing because he never has to back up that statement. Venom is going to be shit and Marvel and Sony know it. The only one in the dark might be Tom Hardy.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 30, 2017 22:44:17 GMT
Someone needs to make up their mind.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 1, 2017 4:58:43 GMT
This is exactly what I've thought was going on all along. I don't understand the confusion. There is no confusion. It's a baseless statement that means less than nothing. It's an extremely ingenious way for Sony to capitalize on the Marvel brand while only having to pay lip service to a shared universe. Kevin had to play ball. That's obvious. But, he loses nothing because he never has to back up that statement. Venom is going to be shit and Marvel and Sony know it. The only one in the dark might be Tom Hardy. If I were you I'd look at it as an opportunity to develop a high functional relationship between the two. With the success of Homecoming, Sony may very well want Marvel's input on where to take the film, and even if they don't, there is clearly a strong potential for a much closer relationship to develop, and much tighter tie ins to occur as a result. This could wind up being a really great thing.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 1, 2017 13:42:40 GMT
This is why Sony has made the mistake of sharing Spider-Man with Disney/Marvel, whilst developing spin-off movies such as Venom and Silver & Black without Spider-Man by themselves. Sharing Spiderman is definitely not a mistake. Civil War was great with him and Homecoming looks awesome. I have no idea why you would think that was a mistake.
Now, doing these side projects, we'll just have to see what they're doing. I agree I'm not convinced yet, but IDK, maybe.
You said in another post that Sony isn't allowed to put Spiderman in those movies, which is not correct as far as we know. Pascal even said Spiderman showing up in spinoffs is possible.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 1, 2017 17:21:45 GMT
I think it was suppose to be a big announcement. Pascal just jumped the gun a bit and said it on a random interview. I'm thinking Feige would have announced it at a Comic-Con. Maybe Pascal wanted her time to shine and said it before he could. So Sony stole MCU's thunder. Good for them!
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 1, 2017 17:40:35 GMT
I think it was suppose to be a big announcement. Pascal just jumped the gun a bit and said it on a random interview. I'm thinking Feige would have announced it at a Comic-Con. Maybe Pascal wanted her time to shine and said it before he could. So Sony stole MCU's thunder. Good for them! They stole nothing. It made Pascal look like an idiot. Hell, I'm betting he would have let her announce it at the Marvel event at Comic-Con.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 2, 2017 0:20:40 GMT
Alright can you please make up your mind?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 2, 2017 13:28:14 GMT
You said in another post that Sony isn't allowed to put Spiderman in those movies, which is not correct as far as we know. Pascal even said Spiderman showing up in spinoffs is possible.
Tom Holland is not contracted to appear in those spinoff movies, besides 3 solo movies and 3 other MCU movies. He will not be in Venom, regardless of what Amy Pascal says. Nobody said he would be in Venom, and whether Tom currently has a contract or not is completely irrelevant to the fact that Sony has rights to the character and has said it's possible for the MCU continuity version to appear in their spin offs. Also if you don't think Tom would sign a big contract to keep being Spidey, I don't know what to tell you.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 2, 2017 14:07:21 GMT
Tom Holland is not contracted to appear in those spinoff movies, besides 3 solo movies and 3 other MCU movies. He will not be in Venom, regardless of what Amy Pascal says. Nobody said he would be in Venom, and whether Tom currently has a contract or not is completely irrelevant to the fact that Sony has rights to the character and has said it's possible for the MCU continuity version to appear in their spin offs. Also if you don't think Tom would sign a big contract to keep being Spidey, I don't know what to tell you. To be fair, Tom said that Venom won't appear in his movies. That doesn't count out him appearing in the spider-verse movies.
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