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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 6, 2017 0:01:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 0:52:14 GMT
Nothing confirmed?
Hard to argue with his stats but I've never been totally convinced.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 6, 2017 1:00:07 GMT
Yeah, unconfirmed. No way he's worth anywhere near that figure imo.
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Post by WullieFort on Jul 6, 2017 1:10:15 GMT
Of all the managers, Ronald Koeman is impressing me most with his transfer business. Not sure about Rooney and he needs to resolve the Barkley staying/going impasse, but he seems to know what he is doing and has options available to make up for Lukalu's loss but something tells me that Chelsea might end up with egg on their face, especially if the troublesome Costa goes
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Post by runie on Jul 6, 2017 1:10:57 GMT
he is pants
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Post by runie on Jul 6, 2017 1:14:06 GMT
just in the pl
behind
kane
costa
sanchez
agureo
also behind AM"s
like erikson and alli
even behind rashford (who will be ten times the player in a year or two)
he is as good as benteke and defoe at best - worth 20 m
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Post by runie on Jul 6, 2017 1:16:58 GMT
rooney will be a great signing -if he can get him
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Post by runie on Jul 6, 2017 1:17:34 GMT
and if they do - i would bet rooney scores more goals than lukakau
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Post by MrFurious on Jul 6, 2017 7:50:07 GMT
No wonder Everton are spending all this money. Looks like they might be getting Giroud too.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 6, 2017 11:45:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 12:31:32 GMT
He'll definitely score goals. The stats are impressive especially given he was playing for teams that don't create chance after chance.
YEAR PLD GOALS
2013 35 17
2014 31 15
2015 36 10
2016 37 18
2017 37 25
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Post by runie on Jul 6, 2017 13:26:28 GMT
the are not 75m stats mate!
defoe and benteke have exactly the same type of records as that - that is why i put him in that bracket
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Post by runie on Jul 6, 2017 14:00:14 GMT
i know the market has kind of doubled in a year (sue to clubs getting so much more - )
clubs revenues never effect profits really - they effect costs - inflation in football is like mid war germany
but paying out that for lukakaua(top 30 striker in the world) going for griezman or kane they would have to go 180m to have a sniff surely!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 14:34:26 GMT
the are not 75m stats mate! defoe and benteke have exactly the same type of records as that - that is why i put him in that bracket Benteke has never scored over 20 (despite playing for a club like Liverpool). His stats aren't in the same league at all. Likewise, Defoe. Additionally, they're records are pretty sporadic, while Lukaku's is consistent over the last five seasons. Plus, he's 24. He's definitely in the bracket above them. That doesn't mean he'll be a hit. I would have preferred Lacazette but he could also turn out to be the next Chamakh. We'll see. |
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Post by Reggie_Stration on Jul 6, 2017 17:06:38 GMT
just in the pl behind kane costa sanchez agureo also behind AM"s like erikson and alli even behind rashford (who will be ten times the player in a year or two) he is as good as benteke and defoe at best - worth 20 m On a par with Defoe and Benteke and behind Rashford? Come on, mate! You do watch football don't you? |
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Post by runie on Jul 6, 2017 18:20:53 GMT
one good season mate - thats it - dont get trapped into rating a player on one deceent season.. and it was 1 goal in 140 mins (as the only outlet to score for a very decent Everton that had loads of chances v the bottom 12 (they are in a league of there own as 7th in the pl) against 1 goal in 87 from kane)
he goes missing half the game - this is fine as an old school striker - the owens , the shearers, the rauls etc - but in this day an age? his work rate is half of kanes and all other strikers i mentioned above.
kane was key passing, assiting , playing comboinations all over setting up erikson , alli and sun.
he isnt even greedy. - but when he shoots he strikes it like ibra on some occasions and on target.
lukaka, fck knows - lazy sod for me. wont fit in.
that is only my opinion - i may be wrong.
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Post by Reggie_Stration on Jul 7, 2017 8:09:23 GMT
one good season mate - thats it - dont get trapped into rating a player on one deceent season.. and it was 1 goal in 140 mins (as the only outlet to score for a very decent Everton that had loads of chances v the bottom 12 (they are in a league of there own as 7th in the pl) against 1 goal in 87 from kane) he goes missing half the game - this is fine as an old school striker - the owens , the shearers, the rauls etc - but in this day an age? his work rate is half of kanes and all other strikers i mentioned above. kane was key passing, assiting , playing comboinations all over setting up erikson , alli and sun. he isnt even greedy. - but when he shoots he strikes it like ibra on some occasions and on target. lukaka, fck knows - lazy sod for me. wont fit in. that is only my opinion - i may be wrong. I'm not talking about Kane who I agree he's behind, I'm talking about you thinking he's equal with Defoe and Benteke, and behind Rashford. You honestly think Defoe would have scored 25 goals last season for Everton at age 34, when he hasn't even scored over 20 in his career? You're wrong. Same with Benteke. Rashford has barely started his career and has yet to score more than 5 in a season. How on earth can he be ahead? Lukaku has clearly demonstrated through what he's done in the PL that he's ahead of those 3. Only Kane, Aguero and Costa are ahead of him as strikers in the PL. Sturridge might have been among them had he remained more injury-free. And Sanchez I still don't consider as a striker, even though as a player I'd have him above them all in the PL at this moment. |
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Post by dougb on Jul 7, 2017 14:31:46 GMT
Over priced as Man U had to pay over the odds to get ahead of Chelsea and piss Conte off. Ridiculous wages as well. Can't agree with Runie though, he's better than that. Sure you're not just trying to justify the 30+million you paid for Benteke.
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Post by runie on Jul 7, 2017 14:33:45 GMT
potential of rashford and is on a vert god level
lukaka is top of thst benteke defoe list granted - Without benteke - i think palace would have gone down -
if lukakua plays the man u and mourino game plan(which wil make him a harde worker( and does not annoy them and keeps his strength training up he can hassle defenders very well. but you always need two jobs in this game in todays football. its not just about the one thing.
Lukakaus strength is being in good positions and an above average finish quality, and great strength to hold that ball and not allow defendenders to muscle in - but sometimes he will have to get back and hassle others when of the ball. If he could be the man u player that can knick the ball of defenders then its one plus for them - man u have little quality in midfield so you have to get the ball somehow.
Maybe I `m being harsh on him - but i also think defoe is one of the most underated players of all time. and benteke will allways get you 15 plus these days- we dont quite know if lukaka will make the difference a t man u - infact i think evertons midfield is better and more creative and makes more chances that the current man u anyway!!
it wasnt as if the two teams where far apart last season in quality in the league. man u's goal scorering and chances created was pittifull lets be honest here. however i think pogba will come alive next year and really aid that . when he plays international well he dominates teams and is the most important cog in the wheel of the team- he didnt do it in the PL though, i think it will change next year
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Post by runie on Jul 7, 2017 16:16:23 GMT
one good season mate - thats it - dont get trapped into rating a player on one deceent season.. and it was 1 goal in 140 mins (as the only outlet to score for a very decent Everton that had loads of chances v the bottom 12 (they are in a league of there own as 7th in the pl) against 1 goal in 87 from kane) he goes missing half the game - this is fine as an old school striker - the owens , the shearers, the rauls etc - but in this day an age? his work rate is half of kanes and all other strikers i mentioned above. kane was key passing, assiting , playing comboinations all over setting up erikson , alli and sun. he isnt even greedy. - but when he shoots he strikes it like ibra on some occasions and on target. lukaka, fck knows - lazy sod for me. wont fit in. that is only my opinion - i may be wrong. I'm not talking about Kane who I agree he's behind, I'm talking about you thinking he's equal with Defoe and Benteke, and behind Rashford. You honestly think Defoe would have scored 25 goals last season for Everton at age 34, when he hasn't even scored over 20 in his career? You're wrong. Same with Benteke. Rashford has barely started his career and has yet to score more than 5 in a season. How on earth can he be ahead? Lukaku has clearly demonstrated through what he's done in the PL that he's ahead of those 3. Only Kane, Aguero and Costa are ahead of him as strikers in the PL. Sturridge might have been among them had he remained more injury-free. And Sanchez I still don't consider as a striker, even though as a player I'd have him above them all in the PL at this moment. bar sanchez who i believe can play as a striker and i believe the game is going into a hybred number 9/10 over the old school striker that reserved energy to make the run when it counted - teh giroud typeplayer. so my list is exatly the same as yours but i kind of mix 10,'s with 9's as a striker today you have to build up and press defence. my list agureo costa kane sanchez alli (i would put erikson in but he is much more of a ozil- the §tactical player that can whip a ball in and score long range efforts... and he doesnt get the credit he deserves(erikson) due to the two english plqyers lukaku giroud(has so much skill - yet i have seen snails with more work rate) defoe benteke lukaku has the ability but i was basing lukaku on what he has done so far not potential - but then mouriniho will not allow him to become an absent striker - he will make him press. so it could be a very good move in retrospect. |
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