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Post by Morgana on Jul 10, 2017 12:05:56 GMT
I find this very disturbing. yournewswire.com/pedophiles-child-sex-robots/I don't think such robots will in any way deter pedophiles from acting out their sick desires on real children. This is from another article on the subject: |
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 10, 2017 12:09:23 GMT
It is very disturbing indeed.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 10, 2017 12:21:28 GMT
Presumably on this logic, an adult sex doll, which cannot give consent, is then equally a "rape doll", and all as such should be banned for encouraging objectification, and rape etc.
These are exactly the sort of arguments which have been tried in the condemnation of violent or pornographic films and games for adults and been found wanting down the years.
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Post by progressiveelement on Jul 10, 2017 12:25:00 GMT
Presumably on this logic, an adult sex doll, which cannot give consent, is then equally a "rape doll", and all as such should be banned for encouraging objectification, and rape etc. Refusing consent was one of the first indicators the robots of Westworld were about to get homicidal. 😲 |
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Post by Vegas on Jul 10, 2017 14:37:17 GMT
Why would a child need sex robots?    Oh.... OH! Some "fantasies" just shouldn't be played out. |
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Post by tickingmask on Jul 10, 2017 15:00:50 GMT
I find it disturbing that people want to have sex with children in the first place, but given that they exist, I'm not sure why allowing them the use of child sex robots is such a bad thing. Is it because, by doing so, we are validating their sexual urges instead of forcing them to remain buried deep underground? Are we worried that it will become socially acceptable for people to flaunt their perversions, bring their child sex robots round to dinner parties and stuff like that? "Hi! Meet Roxxxy, my child sex doll! I have her on the 'adventurous Wild Wendy' setting if you want to join us for a threesome after dinner". I don't honestly know.
However I am sceptical of claims that these things would encourage people to act out violent rape fantasies in reality rather than just on robots. Doesn't the same claim get made constantly about violent movies and video games, with very little actual evidence that this is the case? What is the difference?
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Post by Morgana on Jul 10, 2017 17:03:12 GMT
Presumably on this logic, an adult sex doll, which cannot give consent, is then equally a "rape doll", and all as such should be banned for encouraging objectification, and rape etc.
These are exactly the sort of arguments which have been tried in the condemnation of violent or pornographic films and games for adults and been found wanting down the years.
Don't you think it possible that someone that has sex with a child-like sex robot might find it unfulfilling and then decide to switch to the real thing? Plus you saying that the evidence regarding porn and violence is wanting doesn't mean it is wrong. |
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Post by Morgana on Jul 10, 2017 17:04:53 GMT
Why would a child need sex robots? Oh.... OH!Some "fantasies" just shouldn't be played out. *Kicks Vegas* - edit: *really hard*. |
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Post by Morgana on Jul 10, 2017 17:08:26 GMT
I find it disturbing that people want to have sex with children in the first place, but given that they exist, I'm not sure why allowing them the use of child sex robots is such a bad thing. Is it because, by doing so, we are validating their sexual urges instead of forcing them to remain buried deep underground? Are we worried that it will become socially acceptable for people to flaunt their perversions, bring their child sex robots round to dinner parties and stuff like that? "Hi! Meet Roxxxy, my child sex doll! I have her on the 'adventurous Wild Wendy' setting if you want to join us for a threesome after dinner". I don't honestly know. However I am sceptical of claims that these things would encourage people to act out violent rape fantasies in reality rather than just on robots. Doesn't the same claim get made constantly about violent movies and video games, with very little actual evidence that this is the case? What is the difference? When it comes to pedophilia then yes, the urges should be buried deep underground. As has been mentioned, it is a real fear that the pedophile would be unsatisfied with the robot and decide to turn to the real thing instead. Because the evidence is 'very little', in your words, doesn't mean it isn't true in some cases. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jul 10, 2017 19:26:27 GMT
To semi-echo tickingmask, what's disturbing is that there are pedophiles at all, but given that there are there are really only four alternatives: 1. Rehab 2. Suppression 3. Act with robot 4. Act with child Of those possibilities, 1. and 2. really don't work. They tried 1. with homosexuality and did nothing but harm. I don't think there's any evidence that you can force people's sexual tastes to change. 2. can work for some, but it obviously doesn't work for many as there are still plenty of sexual child abuse scandals out there. For those that can't suppress it, 3. is certainly the next best option. For those in which 3. doesn't work, I have no faith that 2. would work either, so I'm guessing this is a net positive. I honestly can't imagine 3. actually spurring people for whom 2. would've worked into going with 4. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jul 10, 2017 19:34:41 GMT
Presumably on this logic, an adult sex doll, which cannot give consent, is then equally a "rape doll", and all as such should be banned for encouraging objectification, and rape etc.
These are exactly the sort of arguments which have been tried in the condemnation of violent or pornographic films and games for adults and been found wanting down the years.
Don't you think it possible that someone that has sex with a child-like sex robot might find it unfulfilling and then decide to switch to the real thing? Plus you saying that the evidence regarding porn and violence is wanting doesn't mean it is wrong. See my response above, but I think it's far more likely that pedophiles who can't suppress their urges would have sex with children compared to pedophiles who could suppress their urges suddenly not suppressing them because they found a robot unfulfilling. There is pretty much a reverse correlation between the rise of porn and violent media and the levels of real-life sexual assaults and violent crimes. There's simply no evidence that violent media spurs people to do real-life violence if they weren't already predisposed to doing it, and the same goes for porn and sexual assault. For you to suggest that they could still do so despite the lack of evidence (and despite the fact that they're reversely correlated to each other on a large scale) is about as anti-rational as it gets. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 19:58:44 GMT
Don't you think it possible that someone that has sex with a child-like sex robot might find it unfulfilling and then decide to switch to the real thing? That's not the question, though. The question is whether this hypothetical person is more or less likely to go for the real thing than a similar person who has no robot at all. |
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Post by thorshairspray on Jul 10, 2017 20:09:55 GMT
My gut reaction is that this is morally reprehensible. However, the important question is will this protect children by providing pedophiles an outlet?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 20:27:50 GMT
The broader question is, why is screwing a child sex robot immoral? It's not actually a child. Screwing it hurts nobody.
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Post by thorshairspray on Jul 10, 2017 20:29:24 GMT
The broader question is, why is screwing a child sex robot immoral? It's not actually a child. Screwing it hurts nobody. I'm not saying screwing the robot is immoral, I'm saying making a sex doll to resemble a child is. I do fully accept that this is a subjective reaction however. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 21:40:38 GMT
The broader question is, why is screwing a child sex robot immoral? It's not actually a child. Screwing it hurts nobody. I'm not saying screwing the robot is immoral, I'm saying making a sex doll to resemble a child is. I do fully accept that this is a subjective reaction however. Fair enough. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 10, 2017 22:21:02 GMT
There is a lot more wrong with society than robots can fix even if you think they can do any good, which I don't.
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 10, 2017 22:52:55 GMT
Two questions: A) What is the basis for that assumption. B) What would your alternative idea be? What do "violent rape fantasies" have to do with "pedophile fantasies" and what studies is this "likelihood" based on? I mean, is this just a presumption, or is there some actual data that supports this conclusion? Conventional wisdom from anecdotal evidence (people who are inclined to enjoy regular sex dolls/toys) would suggest that it's more of an "in lieu of" option, than a motivator to seek out the real thing. |
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Post by scienceisgod on Jul 11, 2017 2:01:58 GMT
the important question is will this protect children by providing pedophiles an outlet? Who cares? "Protecting children" is your job, not some robot's job. Robot doesn't care about your child. We don't ban cars just because cars don't protect us from vampires, or whatever some authority might wish they would protect us from. We also don't ban cars just because the existence of cars might lead some crazy person to run over someone. The OP is a totalitarian's wet dream. You know how easily you could stage some incident to get ANYTHING banned if we all reacted this way? It's bad enough already that I can trip and fall on your property and sue you. Stop being a child. |
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Post by scienceisgod on Jul 11, 2017 2:06:24 GMT
I find this very disturbing. yournewswire.com/pedophiles-child-sex-robots/I don't think such robots will in any way deter pedophiles from acting out their sick desires on real children. This is from another article on the subject: How about a 17 year old robot with a fake ID? Is that still "icky"? I bet I could judge your thoughts and actions too, and it would be fun. Are you fat? Obesity costs society a lot of money. Perhaps you need to be restrained. |
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