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Post by Vegas on Jul 12, 2017 20:26:13 GMT
Right? "Don't stick a crayon in your nose" sounds pretty simple, too. Yet pediatricians are pulling them out every day. Ready for sex! Fun fact: estrogen levels drive lubrication in women. Pre-pubescent girls don't really lubricate (which is why doctors advise against playing about with tampons pre-menstruation, even to show them how they work) - so you'll need to have a separate conversation with the box about lube before you start swinging your wrench about. Sounds perfectly legit, Padraig. Sound thinking. they just refuse to obey and put it up there anyway. Do you have any evidence th at it is due to a lack of understanding of the instruction? Maybe not.... But, it is indicative of a complete lack of understanding the consequence of their actions.... which is why we don't say that children have the right to decide for themselves whether or not they should be able to shove crayons up their nose.  |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jul 12, 2017 20:28:18 GMT
 They did? Vaginal lubrication is an estrogen-dependent physiological process. It's why post-menopausal women with vaginal dryness get estrogen treatments. Learn your basics then come back with a fresh new approach on arguing your way towards kid-fucking. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jul 12, 2017 20:30:03 GMT
Did Dr. Drew tell you this, too? Again, dude, you're arguing in favor of four year old consent without even a basic understanding of the cognitive milestones of that age group. It's vapid. Still waiting for that source for your claims. If you are right about this I will gladly admit to being wrong. If you actually had interest you'd have googled any portion of the cited facts and gotten several sources. Your unwillingness to do so is yet another red flag. |
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Post by gadreel on Jul 12, 2017 20:33:43 GMT
It's not a case of understanding the physical act, it's a case of understanding the implication. I notice you still have not answered my question. What implication? Having fun? Yeah sex is just about having fun. There are lots of implications of sex, the most obvious being children and STI's. So what age? |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jul 12, 2017 20:35:59 GMT
Stop it. I can't. Both the CDC and the APA cover this fully and you're bitching about not having a wiki on it? Talk about failing school systems. Learn how the vagina works then rejoin the conversation. As to the "appeal to authority" nonsense - sorry to place the consensus of decades of research over your "feels right" debate points. |
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Post by gadreel on Jul 12, 2017 20:36:32 GMT
Yeah cognitive milestones are so arbitrary. Aw shucks, you got me. I didn't realize that some authority decided to make the concept of "cognitive milestones" official. When your daughter is ready for sex, is it really so hard to imagine that it will not be at the same time as other children? "Hey, junior learned to read before she did! Let's shackle him!" How can you think that's a solution? Of course actual readiness is a continuum, we have a line that society (and research) agrees is a bets fit, some people are ready earlier some much later. This is the same with every age based law. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jul 12, 2017 20:37:43 GMT
What implication? Having fun? Yeah sex is just about having fun. I bet vaginal tearing is all sorts of fun. |
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Post by PanLeo on Jul 12, 2017 20:39:11 GMT
Kids know what it means they just refuse to obey and put it up there anyway. Do you have any evidence th at it is due to a lack of understanding of the instruction? Maybe not.... But, it is indicative of a complete lack of understanding the consequence of their actions.... which is why we don't say that children have the right to decide for themselves whether or not they should be able to shove crayons up their nose. Or maybe they don't care? |
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Post by gadreel on Jul 12, 2017 20:40:13 GMT
Yeah sex is just about having fun. I bet vaginal tearing is all sorts of fun. Yeah, that this guy has argued for days in favour of raping children is just scary. Do you suppose he believes this? or is just trolling. |
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Post by gadreel on Jul 12, 2017 20:41:36 GMT
Maybe not.... But, it is indicative of a complete lack of understanding the consequence of their actions.... which is why we don't say that children have the right to decide for themselves whether or not they should be able to shove crayons up their nose. Or maybe they don't care? Which is exactly the FUCKING point, they don't care because they don't understand the implications, the same as sex. This is why as a society we protect children from the sort of monsters that cajole a yes out of them before they rape them. |
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Post by PanLeo on Jul 12, 2017 20:43:12 GMT
Still waiting for that source for your claims. If you are right about this I will gladly admit to being wrong. If you actually had interest you'd have googled any portion of the cited facts and gotten several sources. Your unwillingness to do so is yet another red flag. I found a source for some cognitive milestones but not a source that they can't understand some of the things I talked about. www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/actearly/milestones/milestones-4yr.html |
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Post by scienceisgod on Jul 12, 2017 20:43:26 GMT
They did? Vaginal lubrication is an estrogen-dependent physiological process. It's why post-menopausal women with vaginal dryness get estrogen treatments. Learn your basics then come back with a fresh new approach on arguing your way towards kid-fucking. I can't stop you from thinking that circumcision is good and sex is evil. It's subjective I guess. It's aberrant though. They give estrogen to women for a paper cut. HRT, what you're talking about, is given to every women for nonspecific reasons and claimed to fix every problem under the sun. Vaginal dryness is actually listed as a side effect! I notice a slight of hand here. You said estrogen drives lubrication. Now you say lubrication is dependent on estrogen, as in estrogen could be a limiting factor. You think estrogen levels tend to be low in modern women in our world of bisphenol-a and birth control pills and plastics everywhere in the environment? Lubrication is driven by testosterone, and it works the same way in the woman as it does in the man, by triggering engorgement of the tissues. What's your mechanism of action? |
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Post by PanLeo on Jul 12, 2017 20:44:53 GMT
Or maybe they don't care? Which is exactly the FUCKING point, they don't care because they don't understand the implications, the same as sex. This is why as a society we protect children from the sort of monsters that cajole a yes out of them before they rape them. Or maybe they don't care while at the same time understand the implications? Why can't it be this? What are the implications besides having fun btw? |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jul 12, 2017 20:49:32 GMT
I bet vaginal tearing is all sorts of fun. Yeah, that this guy has argued for days in favour of raping children is just scary. Days? This has been an ongoing theme with him since the old IMDB. Probably over a year at least. Best to just nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. If you're willing to leverage kid-fuckery for lulz you're a feckless chaod in any case. Either way, dudes like this are why I can't even glance at my phone while I'm at the playground. I've already had the pleasure of chasing a creep away from a local one when I caught him slyly snapping upskirts on little girls on the climbing bars. He probably spends his off-hours arguing why it's OK on the internet, too. |
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Post by Superdude6091 on Jul 12, 2017 20:52:52 GMT
Which is exactly the FUCKING point, they don't care because they don't understand the implications, the same as sex. This is why as a society we protect children from the sort of monsters that cajole a yes out of them before they rape them. Or maybe they don't care while at the same time understand the implications? Why can't it be this? What are the implications besides having fun btw? Why has nobody beaten you to death yet? Seriously. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jul 12, 2017 20:57:34 GMT
OK... if I ever start thinking either of those things I'll look elsewhere for debate. Engorgement != lubrication. Two separate functions. You're arguing for the sake of arguing. It's OK to just say "Oh, I didn't know that" and move on. Your journey from "don't fuck kids" to "sex is evil!" was great stuff. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jul 12, 2017 20:58:56 GMT
Which is exactly the FUCKING point, they don't care because they don't understand the implications, the same as sex. This is why as a society we protect children from the sort of monsters that cajole a yes out of them before they rape them. Or maybe they don't care while at the same time understand the implications? Why can't it be this? What are the implications besides having fun btw? All the best kid-fuckery arguments are based on "maybe". |
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Post by PanLeo on Jul 12, 2017 21:07:04 GMT
Yeah, that this guy has argued for days in favour of raping children is just scary. Days? This has been an ongoing theme with him since the old IMDB. Probably over a year at least. Best to just nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. If you're willing to leverage kid-fuckery for lulz you're a feckless chaod in any case. Either way, dudes like this are why I can't even glance at my phone while I'm at the playground. I've already had the pleasure of chasing a creep away from a local one when I caught him slyly snapping upskirts on little girls on the climbing bars. He probably spends his off-hours arguing why it's OK on the internet, too. I don't agree with that btw. He should go to jail. |
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Post by gadreel on Jul 12, 2017 21:08:20 GMT
Which is exactly the FUCKING point, they don't care because they don't understand the implications, the same as sex. This is why as a society we protect children from the sort of monsters that cajole a yes out of them before they rape them. Or maybe they don't care while at the same time understand the implications? Why can't it be this? What are the implications besides having fun btw? Can you go away and read some information about child cognition and it's implications on decision making, then read a little bit about shame related to bad decision making. When you have some idea of this subject and when you are prepared to name the age you think is appropriate (which I suspect you are dodging for a good reason) you are welcome to come back to me. |
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Post by gadreel on Jul 12, 2017 21:11:40 GMT
Yeah, that this guy has argued for days in favour of raping children is just scary. Days? This has been an ongoing theme with him since the old IMDB. Probably over a year at least. Best to just nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. If you're willing to leverage kid-fuckery for lulz you're a feckless chaod in any case. Either way, dudes like this are why I can't even glance at my phone while I'm at the playground. I've already had the pleasure of chasing a creep away from a local one when I caught him slyly snapping upskirts on little girls on the climbing bars. He probably spends his off-hours arguing why it's OK on the internet, too. Jesus fuck, that is horrible. As the father of a girl (go fuck your self blade), I am quite concerned about this. Recently some guy got community service for beating up his daughters rapist, I agree he committed a crime, but I would commit that crime in a heartbeat. |
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