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Post by OmegaWolf747 on Feb 5, 2017 14:47:49 GMT
The one that started it all! While lying ill in bed, James Cameron's fever dreams created a frightening image in his overheated brain of a highly armored cybernetic assassin that was virtually unstoppable. Sick as he was, Cameron knew the idea was a keeper. Originally meant to be played by OJ Simpson, the role eventually fell to Arnold Schwarzenegger, who played the role of the relentless assassin machine so well that his single line "I'll be back" became an iconic catchphrase. 
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Feb 20, 2017 18:22:07 GMT
Fantastic movie. One of the best sci-fi action films ever made and that poster is total badass, just a real shame how they have managed to screw up almost every godamn DVD and Blu-ray release for the past 10-15 years or more, by rapdidly handing out one crappy artwork job after another. There was no need for a change, it was perfect as it was:
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Post by scabab on Feb 21, 2017 2:52:11 GMT
Man some of those boxarts are ugly as hell. I own that top one.
It's a phenomenal movie, one of the best I've ever seen. Saw it when I was 3 and still love it today.
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Post by misstique on Feb 21, 2017 8:44:51 GMT
Arguably the greatest action thriller made!
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Post by rateater on Feb 21, 2017 13:11:12 GMT
the best of the terminators and one of the coolest movies ever made. i even like the 2 outer limits episodes he supposedly borrowed from for the plot.
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Post by Times Up on Feb 21, 2017 22:38:50 GMT
the best of the terminators and one of the coolest movies ever made. i even like the 2 outer limits episodes he supposedly borrowed from for the plot. Which two do you mean? There are actually 3 that he supposedly ripped. "Soldier" and "Demon With the Glass Hand" (the 2 from Ellison, the former he settled out of court over and the reason you see "Acknowledgement to the works of Harlan Ellison" on all existing prints past that time). The other is "The Man Who Was Never Born" or something similar. Probably the best of the bunch and the most like it, though "Soldier" and "Demon" have the window dressing, the overall concept of the future society and Grandfather paradox was in this one.
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Post by rateater on Feb 21, 2017 23:15:22 GMT
the best of the terminators and one of the coolest movies ever made. i even like the 2 outer limits episodes he supposedly borrowed from for the plot. Which two do you mean? There are actually 3 that he supposedly ripped. "Soldier" and "Demon With the Glass Hand" (the 2 from Ellison, the former he settled out of court over and the reason you see "Acknowledgement to the works of Harlan Ellison" on all existing prints past that time). The other is "The Man Who Was Never Born" or something similar. Probably the best of the bunch and the most like it, though "Soldier" and "Demon" have the window dressing, the overall concept of the future society and Grandfather paradox was in this one. i meant soldier and demon, was unaware of the man who was never born and i'm excited to watch it.
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Post by Times Up on Feb 21, 2017 23:18:59 GMT
Which two do you mean? There are actually 3 that he supposedly ripped. "Soldier" and "Demon With the Glass Hand" (the 2 from Ellison, the former he settled out of court over and the reason you see "Acknowledgement to the works of Harlan Ellison" on all existing prints past that time). The other is "The Man Who Was Never Born" or something similar. Probably the best of the bunch and the most like it, though "Soldier" and "Demon" have the window dressing, the overall concept of the future society and Grandfather paradox was in this one. i meant soldier and demon, was unaware of the man who was never born and i'm excited to watch it. Have fun, it's the best of the 3 and one of my favorite Outer Limits episodes. Let us know what you think after you watch.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 23:20:38 GMT
i meant soldier and demon, was unaware of the man who was never born and i'm excited to watch it. Have fun, it's the best of the 3 and one of my favorite Outer Limits episodes. Let us know what you think after you watch. Is it on youtube ??
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Post by OmegaWolf747 on Feb 21, 2017 23:21:39 GMT
Cameron's fever dreams were awesome for the audience. Props to him for seizing the opportunity.
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Post by Times Up on Feb 21, 2017 23:24:08 GMT
Have fun, it's the best of the 3 and one of my favorite Outer Limits episodes. Let us know what you think after you watch. Is it on youtube ?? Good question, I have the entire series on DVD, so I never search for any episodes. It's worth a watch for Terminator and Outer Limits fans. Only the score is on youtube, it's on dailymotion in it's entirety though. I gave up on youtube long ago due to copyright removal issues. I don't know why more don't go to dailymotion. It's also on Hulu for any who have it. www.dailymotion.com/video/x18kusk_tol-1963-s01e06_people
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 23:27:38 GMT
I found this one. If you find others please link
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Post by damkylan on Feb 23, 2017 19:17:06 GMT
Halloween with explosions, time travel, and future dystopia. Fantastic movie. Brad Fiedel's incredibly dated score is still awesome. No matter how much time passes, those synths will always scream "the future" to me.
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Post by Times Up on Feb 23, 2017 23:49:32 GMT
It's also worth noting the fans have mentioned the Ellison story "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" as the possible inspiration for Skynet. Colossus: The Forbin Project has a lot in common with Skynet and is recommended watching to any Terminator fan. Michael Crichton's Westworld is another obvious inspiration. There is another sci-fi movie that a lot people say the plot of T2 comes from, but the name escapes me. EDIT: www.dailymotion.com/video/x56rmkt_cyborg-2087-1966-partie-1-2-v-o-s-t-fr-en-option_shortfilmsFound it.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Mar 3, 2017 7:17:13 GMT
9/10 A classic.
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Post by misstique on Mar 3, 2017 8:57:08 GMT
Why do AI in movies almost always turn bad? 
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Post by OmegaWolf747 on Mar 3, 2017 11:04:07 GMT
Why do AI in movies almost always turn bad?  Due to our fear of machines taking over.
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Post by lightseeker86 on May 6, 2017 21:48:23 GMT
It is one of my favorite movies of all time. It turned out quite well despite the lack of marketing Cameron said he had to contend with. Makes me wonder how many modern action movies would be better with a smaller budget to force creativity from the director. Luckily for me I pretend Genisys doesn't exist since it shit all over the other movies so I can still enjoy the first two, my friends aren't so lucky.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on May 7, 2017 12:32:17 GMT
Luckily for me I pretend Genisys doesn't exist since it shit all over the other movies so I can still enjoy the first two, my friends aren't so lucky. I remember I was all hyped up for Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, and it went so far I had all these fantastic and bad ass dreams about how awesome the film was gonna be, and, well before Youtube showed up, I remember that a friend of mine downloaded this 30-40 seconds teaser of the film in spring of 2003, and it took like forever to download it, and after almsot 6 hours! of waiting, all we got was a short sample of the Terminator 2 theme by Brad Fiedel, some quotes from the Terminator 3 film, and a very short clip of Arnie walking around with sunglasses looking all mean and ready to kick ass, all over again. Skip forwards a couple of months, and I went to the cinemeas full of hopes. The first two film we saw the Terminator rip some punks heart out with his bare hands, in the second film he walks naked into a bar full of tough looking bikers and gang member, only to come out as badest looking guy around, and how do you top that? By having Arnold walking into a desert club full of horny women and steal the campy Elton John sunglasses from some Village People looking male stripper, which was the beginning of one of the biggest letdowns of my life as an Arnold Schwarzenegger/Terminator fan, and where not even Kristinna Loken could save it. It was just Terminator 1 and 2 all over again, but this time without the talent, creativity and the groundbreaking special effects, instead it was just another forgettable and lame overblown CGI dominated piece of garbage, but little did I know then that it would years later still be miles away from being the worst Terminator sequel made.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on May 7, 2017 13:29:56 GMT
It is one of my favorite movies of all time. It turned out quite well despite the lack of marketing Cameron said he had to contend with. Makes me wonder how many modern action movies would be better with a smaller budget to force creativity from the director. Yeah, I remember watching a documentary about The Terminator and where Jim Cameron said that several of the big "money men" in the business, seemed to think of the film as just another low budget b-movie that was gonna get taken down after a couple of weeks and then just disappear, and where they had their small hopes up that it would do better in the VHS video rental market. I guess that his background in the Roger Corman school of cinema along with a certain b-movie turkey named: Piranha II: The Spawning, might have made some of the people in the business a bit "scared" of what to expect as a final result, but probably they were even more concerned about getting some doughs out of it. I also remember Gale Anne Hurd telling about that they had to fight many times over, with all kind of little things, were they had huge difficulties trying to sell the film as a sci-fi/action movie, as Gale and Cameron approached certain money men with the story of "a seemingly unstoppable cyborg sent to the past/present day, with only one mission, to kill mankinds last hope for survival", and in return they were asked if the film was gonna be like the Star Wars series, with huge spaceship battles, funny robots and laser swords, "because that was what sci-fi was for these people" and I guess it must have gotten really rough in a lot those meetings, because both Gale Anne Hurd and Jim Camron where ready to go all out in order to get what they wanted, but instead they often met people who only had the dollar signs in their eyes, and cared little or nothing about if the film was going to be good or bad. Another thing that I have noticed is that a lot critics or people who seem badmouth Arnolds acting as just some dumb Frankensteins monster number, where he just went in and did his "usual" stuff and that was it, "CUT!". The best compliment that I have heard spoken about Arnie, is from Jim Cameron, who called him "The most professional guy that he had ever worked with!" and I am very sure that I have either read this or seen a clip were Jim said that the two of them had both agreed (even before ever meeting each other face to face) that Arnold was not gonna play the heroic part (which at first he was gonna do), but that he was made to play the Terminator. And in order to prepare for that task, Arnold and Jim was discussing things like: "How would a machine act?". Would it feel fear or would it smell/sweat, would it hesitate or be clumsy". Another thing is that Arnold was watching a lot of animal documentaries in his spare time about predators, and there was a certain animal that really caught on to his attention, which turned out to be the great white shark. The way it always was one the move, but also using as little energy or time as possible in order to save it for the lethal blow to its potential and unlucky prey, and the way it was always on the look out and searching forward and back with his head and lifeless looking, evil eyes, scanning every little corner and side of the bottom of the ocean sea in search of food. This behaviour fascinated Arnold and Jim so much that Cameron decided to make great use of it, several times during the film were The Terminator is on the hunt for Sara Connor and Kyle Reese in a stolen cop car, and we see Arnold using some of the same hunting approach as the great white shark, when on the look out for food/prey, while moving his head to one side or the other, very slow, then followed by moving his eyes in the same direction but again very slow, always on the look out and scanning every street corner for a way or oppurtinity to save time and finnish his task as effectively as possible. When it comes to the special effects, I do hope that Jim Cameron never ends up going the same route as Lucas and Spielberg, by messing around with horrible fake looking CGI in order the "repair" something that never was broken.
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