spiderwort
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Post by spiderwort on Jul 13, 2017 20:06:46 GMT
Forgive me, Bat. I hope you don't mind that you've inspired me to create this thread, co-opting your idea. There are just so many I want to name: EAST OF EDEN - James Dean and Raymond Massey THE GODFATHER - Al Pacino and Marlon Brando HUD - Paul Newman and Melvyn Douglas CAT ON A HOT TIN ROOF - Paul Newman and Burl Ives HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY - Roddy McDowall and Donald Crisp GOLDEN BOY - William Holden and Lee J. Cobb THE CHAMP - Jackie Cooper and Wallace Beery ANDY HARDY series - Mickey Rooney and Lewis Stone I'll stop there for now.
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Post by mattgarth on Jul 13, 2017 20:13:20 GMT
IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE -- Samuel S. Hinds and James Stewart QUIZ SHOW -- Paul Scofield and Ralph Fiennes SHANE -- Van Heflin and Brandon deWilde PARENTHOOD -- Jason Robards and Tom Hulce FRIENDLY PERSUASION -- Gary Cooper and Anthony Perkins INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE -- Sean Connery and Harrison Ford YANKEE DOODLE DANDY -- Walter Huston and James Cagney
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Jul 13, 2017 22:09:03 GMT
The first thing that came to my mind was the TV series Steptoe and Son.
The first film that came to my mind is Danny Boy (1941), another one of those ultra-obscure British b-movies that nobody has seen except me (I love those films for some reason). The film concerns a father who is a classical musician. He and his young son live in poverty, and busk to earn a living. His ex-wife had spent some time in the U.S. and was now a successful singer, but has returned to Britain (at the height of the blitz!) to re-connect with her ex-husband. Of course, finding her ex-husband will not be easy, but The finally find each other while coincidentally performing at the same hotel and embrace in love at the end The whole film is sentimental schmaltz, which is fine with me. I love the steady stream of WW2 references in the film (when the father and son have to leave their run-down apartment to move elsewhere, the father reminds his son to bring his gas mask). IMDb classifies the film as a "drama", but it's also a musical and a comedy. It's not a great film by any stretch of the imagination, yet I liked it very much.
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Post by claudius on Jul 13, 2017 22:19:59 GMT
THE KID The Little Tramp and Jack A GOOFY MOVIE Goofy and Max
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jul 13, 2017 23:02:39 GMT
spiderwort Glad to see that you started this thread. It was the next chapter in the on-going serialized series after all. Hopefully we'll see some mini-essays. I really enjoy reading what folks feel about the films !
Mine to throw into the mix is I Never Sang for My Father (1970) Gene Hackman and Melvyn Douglas head the amazing cast. This was the first picture I ever noticed Gene Hackman in and was blown away. I had seen the play on Broadway and the film does it justice. Lillian Gish had played the mother on stage.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jul 13, 2017 23:44:10 GMT
spiderwort I suppose next would be Mothers and Daughters. Feel free to go for it. You are better at "minding the store" and I have been having some serious connection problems of late. This reminds me of a Garth Game only without the clock and the stress of publically giving an off the wall answer ! I think that Never Sang would be even more meaningful for many now than it was when it was filmed. It deserves to be remembered and watched more than it is, imo. I do remember being upset when Hackman did not get the Oscar that year and now that I see that he was nom for SUPPORTING ACTOR ! WTH is with that ? <rhetorical question !> looked it up and John Mills won for Ryan's Daughter and Geo C. Patton beat out Melvyn Douglas for actor .
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Jul 14, 2017 0:07:20 GMT
The first thing that came to my mind was the TV series Steptoe and Son.
The first film that came to my mind is Danny Boy (1941), another one of those ultra-obscure British b-movies that nobody has seen except me (I love those films for some reason). It's not a great film by any stretch of the imagination, yet I liked it very much. Haven't seen these, M. Dacron, but thanks for the introduction. As for not being a great film, some of my favorite films of all time would be an embarrassment if that were the requirement. The British series Steptoe and Son (1962-1974) was the basis for the American series Sanford and Son (1972–1977). But Steptoe and Son was much darker, almost relentlessly downbeat. It does in fact have a film connection, as two films (which I haven't seen), Steptoe and Son (1972) and Steptoe and Son Ride Again (1973), both spun-off from the series (it was common at the time to do feature films based on British sitcoms).
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Post by fangirl1975 on Jul 14, 2017 0:25:36 GMT
Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jul 14, 2017 0:36:34 GMT
spiderwort Put Parenthoood toward the top of your "GOTTA SEE THIS ONE SOON !" list. It's funny as all get out. It has a top notch cast. It will possibly / probably make you cry. There are several exceedingly memorable sets of fathers/sons, mothers/daughters, mothers/sons , fathers/daughtrs , and a mixed set of siblings and cousins galore plus boyfriends and babies.... WATCH IT ! Soon ! I predict that you will like it. If not, my lawyer is J. Noble Dagget and he handles all my film related predictions gone awry !
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Post by politicidal on Jul 14, 2017 1:05:34 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Jul 14, 2017 1:29:03 GMT
If not, my lawyer is J. Noble Dagget and he handles all my film related predictions gone awry ! Bat, could Mr. Dagget, Esq., represent me in case I once again recommend a movie that somehow causes someone's poor little children to starve?
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Post by OldAussie on Jul 14, 2017 1:36:32 GMT
Early this year I watched Bicycle Thieves for the first time. Wonderful movie about father/son relationship. The next day I rewatched Home From The Hill which also examined Father/Son relationships. Highly recommended.
One not yet mentioned - The Lion in Winter.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jul 14, 2017 2:44:57 GMT
NalkarjI am sure that J. Dagget could handle any such cases. Especially when the claimant is someone totally without merit or grounds. Speaking of Fathers and Sons. I am still working on just WHY the local channel decided to run both versions of True Grit 24/7 on Father's Day. No fathers. No Sons. Not even a daughter for either of the male leads. Weird to the Max choice.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jul 14, 2017 2:54:41 GMT
OldAussieI second the recommend for Home from the Hill (1960) IMO, one of Robert Mitchum's best portrayals of a terrific character. Young Georges Peppard and Hamilton as Rafe and Theron. Excellent character actor cast and the always lovely Eleanor Parker. Captain Wade Hunnicutt is the wealthiest and most powerful citizen in his Texan town; he is also a notorious womanizer, which has turned his wife Hannah against him. She has brought up their son Theron to be dependent upon her; but as he reaches adulthood, Hunnicutt insists on taking over his upbringing, initiating him in hunting and other masculine pursuits, under the watchful eye of Rafe, Hunnicutt's loyal employee. But Theron's new lifestyle leads him into a love-affair with a local girl, and thence to his learning things about his parents that were previously hidden from him. Hamilton was only 21 so, for playing 18, he was not too long in the tooth. Former Child star Luana Patton is all grown up in this one. Vincente Minelli directed.
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Jul 14, 2017 2:59:55 GMT
Two more: Storm Boy (1976) and Blue Fin (1978), both Australian films, both starring Greg Rowe as the son, both based on a book by Colin Thiele, both have script by Sonia Borg, both credit the Seven Network at the end*, both heavily themed around the sea, yet neither share any characters.
I love both.
*Since neither is a TV movie, I'm curious what Seven's role was. Maybe they provided funding or something?
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Post by gunshotwound on Jul 14, 2017 6:16:43 GMT
Edward G. Robinson / Burt Lancaster - ALL MY SONS Dean Jagger / Robert Walker - MY SON JOHN Vittorio Gassman / Desi Arnaz, Jr. - A WEDDING Robert Duval / Michael O'Keefe - THE GREAT SANTINI Nicholas Pryor / Robert Downey, Jr. - LESS THAN ZERO Dustin Hoffman / Justin Henry - KRAMER VS. KRAMER William Daniels / Dustin Hoffman - THE GRADUATE Roy Glenn / Sidney Poitier - GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER James Stewart / Philip Alford - SHENANDOAH Gregory Peck / Philip Alford - TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD Kirk Douglas / Andrew Stevens - THE FURY Yul Brynner / Tony Curtis - TARAS BULBA Jim Backus / James Dean - REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE Jeff Corey / Scott Wilson - IN COLD BLOOD Marlon Brando / Pacino, Caan & Cazale - THE GODFATHER Orson Welles / Tony Franciosa - THE LONG, HOT SUMMER Basil Sydney / Laurence Olivier - HAMLET Jack Thompson / Russell Crowe - THE SUM OF US James Brown / Tim O'Kelly - TARGETS John Wood / Cary Elwes - LADY JANE Ernest Borgnine / Kirk Douglas - THE VIKINGS Paul Winfield / Kevin Hooks - SOUNDER Dub Taylor / Michael J. Pollard - BONNIE AND CLYDE Henry Fonda / James MacArthur - SPENCER'S MOUNTAIN George Segal / Denzel Washington - CARBON COPY Ralph Richardson / Robards & Stockwell - LONG DAY'S JOURNEY INTO NIGHT Fredric March / Kevin McCarthy - DEATH OF A SALESMAN Arthur Kennedy / Troy Donahue - A SUMMER PLACE
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Post by koskiewicz on Jul 14, 2017 15:03:08 GMT
...from TV:
Alan Alda and Robert Alda, REAL LIFE father and son appear as doctors in a few MASH episodes.
The mention of Dub Taylor and Michael J Pollard reminded me of that memorable scene in Bonnie and Clyde when dad heaves a spoonful of mashed potatoes at son CW Moss when he learns of his son getting tattoed...!!!
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Post by bravomailer on Jul 14, 2017 15:10:11 GMT
Perhaps my favorite father-son scene. As I understand it, Nicholson's emotion was not in the script and was quite unexpected. It looks like he's about to stop the scene at a place or two.
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