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Post by captainbryce on Jul 16, 2017 2:25:52 GMT
"It looks so cute, right?!! I just know she's gonna love it!! She'll thank me when she's older lol If she decides she doesn't like it, she can just take it out, no big deal 😂😂 I'm the parent, she is MY CHILD, I will do whatever I want!! I make all of her decisions until she's 18, I made her, I own her!! I don't need anyone's permission, I think it's better, cuter, & I prefer her to have her dimple pierced. Its NOT abuse!! If it was, it would be illegal, but it's not. People pierce their babies everyday, this is no different 😂😂 MY BABY, MY CHOICE!! PARENT'S CHOICE, PARENT'S RIGHTS!! Don't judge my parenting, we all raise our kids differently, it's none of your business anyway!!" #BodilyIntegrity, #MyBodyMyChoice, #HumanRights, #ChildrensRights, #Intactivism, #IntactGeneration #sarcasm 'Pierced' baby picture sparks outrage among parents (CNN)
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Post by thorshairspray on Jul 16, 2017 2:33:08 GMT
It worked exactly as it was supposed to. Girl done good
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Post by PanLeo on Jul 16, 2017 7:56:31 GMT
I dont believe in parental rights but I dont see the problem here. Both siDes are displaying ageism.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 16, 2017 12:36:21 GMT
I dont believe in parental rights but I dont see the problem here. Both siDes are displaying ageism. How does one not believe in parental rights. Are you saying they should abandon their kids or are you saying kids should run the household?
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Post by PanLeo on Jul 16, 2017 12:38:05 GMT
I dont believe in parental rights but I dont see the problem here. Both siDes are displaying ageism. How does one not believe in parental rights. Are you saying they should abandon their kids or are you saying kids should run the household? I am saying being a parent doesnt give you automatic authority over your children.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 16, 2017 12:47:06 GMT
How does one not believe in parental rights. Are you saying they should abandon their kids or are you saying kids should run the household? I am saying being a parent doesnt give you automatic authority over your children. That's as vague as your first statement. What are parents allowed to do with their kids? Further, are they required to take care of their kids? Are the parents in the wrong if they feed their kids pureed carrots and the baby only wants candy? Let's assume that piercing babies is illegal to forgo that part of the statement. What about the mundane stuff parents are normally given automatic authority over.
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 16, 2017 13:00:35 GMT
I think what he's trying to say (and he can correct me if I'm wrong) is that parents have the responsibility to provide for the well being of their child, and the legal right to raise them as they see fit, but not necessarily the ethical right to impose certain things onto them (like body modifications based on the parents preferences). I hope!
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Post by Marv on Jul 16, 2017 14:32:28 GMT
It's interesting. Because parents have been getting their children's ears pierced forever. I think this is only a stink because it is a cheek piercing. But that does beg the question of how far is too far. What makes a cheek piercing worse than ear piercings? Is it just societies reaction to one compared to the other and the frequency at which they're both seen? What about a tattoo? A tattoo would be much more hidden than any kind of piercing but we wouldn't accept it if a baby showed up with a MOM tattoo on his arm.
Just feels like the ear piercing is one of those acceptable modifications even if it isn't objectively different from all the others.
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 16, 2017 16:16:50 GMT
It's interesting. Because parents have been getting their children's ears pierced forever. I think this is only a stink because it is a cheek piercing. But that does beg the question of how far is too far. What makes a cheek piercing worse than ear piercings? Is it just societies reaction to one compared to the other and the frequency at which they're both seen? What about a tattoo? A tattoo would be much more hidden than any kind of piercing but we wouldn't accept it if a baby showed up with a MOM tattoo on his arm. Just feels like the ear piercing is one of those acceptable modifications even if it isn't objectively different from all the others. You didn't actually read the article, and you're kind of missing the point altogether. It really has nothing to do with ear piercing, and there is no cheeck piercing at all.
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Post by Marv on Jul 16, 2017 16:34:05 GMT
It's interesting. Because parents have been getting their children's ears pierced forever. I think this is only a stink because it is a cheek piercing. But that does beg the question of how far is too far. What makes a cheek piercing worse than ear piercings? Is it just societies reaction to one compared to the other and the frequency at which they're both seen? What about a tattoo? A tattoo would be much more hidden than any kind of piercing but we wouldn't accept it if a baby showed up with a MOM tattoo on his arm. Just feels like the ear piercing is one of those acceptable modifications even if it isn't objectively different from all the others. You didn't actually read the article, and you're kind of missing the point altogether. It really has nothing to do with ear piercing, and there is no cheeck piercing at all. Did you think I read the article? I thought it was obvious I went off on a tangent about cosmetic alterations on kids.
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 16, 2017 16:48:51 GMT
You didn't actually read the article, and you're kind of missing the point altogether. It really has nothing to do with ear piercing, and there is no cheeck piercing at all. Did you think I read the article? I thought it was obvious I went off on a tangent about cosmetic alterations on kids. Based on my previous comment...what do you think?
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Post by Marv on Jul 16, 2017 17:25:04 GMT
Did you think I read the article? I thought it was obvious I went off on a tangent about cosmetic alterations on kids. Based on my previous comment...what do you think? Was rhetorical. Thought that was obvious too. :/
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Post by PanLeo on Jul 16, 2017 18:05:13 GMT
I am saying being a parent doesnt give you automatic authority over your children. That's as vague as your first statement. What are parents allowed to do with their kids? Further, are they required to take care of their kids? Are the parents in the wrong if they feed their kids pureed carrots and the baby only wants candy? Let's assume that piercing babies is illegal to forgo that part of the statement. What about the mundane stuff parents are normally given automatic authority over. I would prefer communal child rearing over private child rearing.
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 16, 2017 20:43:32 GMT
Based on my previous comment...what do you think? Was rhetorical. Thought that was obvious too. :/ Sometimes, the thing that seems obvious to you (in your head) actually is, and doesn't need to be pointed out as though it were not. Sometimes, get this...there are other reasons for other people to comment back to you with snarky responses when you are unnecessarily snarky. But then, that's a fact that is obvious to me...
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Post by Marv on Jul 16, 2017 20:52:27 GMT
Was rhetorical. Thought that was obvious too. :/ Sometimes, the thing that seems obvious to you (in your head) actually is, and doesn't need to be pointed out as though it were not. Sometimes, get this...there are other reasons for other people to comment back to you with snarky responses when you are unnecessarily snarky. But then, that's a fact that is obvious to me... As long as something is obvious to you. I was beginning to wonder.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jul 16, 2017 21:19:00 GMT
Sometimes, the thing that seems obvious to you (in your head) actually is, and doesn't need to be pointed out as though it were not. Sometimes, get this...there are other reasons for other people to comment back to you with snarky responses when you are unnecessarily snarky. But then, that's a fact that is obvious to me... As long as something is obvious to you. I was beginning to wonder. +1
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 17, 2017 4:34:44 GMT
Sometimes, the thing that seems obvious to you (in your head) actually is, and doesn't need to be pointed out as though it were not. Sometimes, get this...there are other reasons for other people to comment back to you with snarky responses when you are unnecessarily snarky. But then, that's a fact that is obvious to me... As long as something is obvious to you. I was beginning to wonder. It's not about me my friend. Humility works...I strongly recommend it.
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Post by tickingmask on Jul 17, 2017 9:04:07 GMT
I would prefer communal child rearing over private child rearing. What does that mean, exactly? How would you personally like to be involved in communal child rearing? Are you happy to change shitty diapers of children you have no emotional attachment with, wake up at 3am to feed them, take days off work to look after them when they get sick, play with them even when you have other important stuff to do, take them to restaurants or on aeroplanes, teach them how to behave properly, help them with their Math homework, clean up after them, pay for their holidays and school trips? Or does "communal child rearing" mean you expect other people to do all that kind of thing?
I'm guessing you are not a parent yourself.
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Post by PanLeo on Jul 17, 2017 9:20:42 GMT
I would prefer communal child rearing over private child rearing. What does that mean, exactly? How would you personally like to be involved in communal child rearing? Are you happy to change shitty diapers of children you have no emotional attachment with, wake up at 3am to feed them, take days off work to look after them when they get sick, play with them even when you have other important stuff to do, take them to restaurants or on aeroplanes, teach them how to behave properly, help them with their Math homework, clean up after them, pay for their holidays and school trips? Or does "communal child rearing" mean you expect other people to do all that kind of thing?
I'm guessing you are not a parent yourself.
only the best shoulD rear chilDrEn.
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Post by tickingmask on Jul 17, 2017 9:40:32 GMT
only the best shoulD rear chilDrEn. So, in other words: you want children to be communally raised but you want nothing to do with the raising of them yourself; you only want to be able to dictate how others should raise them. Why doesn't that surprise me?
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