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Post by thorshairspray on Jul 16, 2017 2:32:18 GMT
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 16, 2017 3:14:42 GMT
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Post by phludowin on Jul 16, 2017 5:54:43 GMT
tpfkar thorshairspray said:I haven't read it, but is it really saying that or simply that they want better percentages of minority teachers? It isn't saying that, unsurprisingly. The article also mentions that, supposedly, "BME teachers are, on average, paid less than their peers, commonly face discrimination and prejudice when applying for jobs." I guess if that applied to white teachers, the OP might have a point.
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 16, 2017 13:50:27 GMT
You don't say!
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 16, 2017 14:36:20 GMT
We have been told since the 1960s that all races are identical and it is wrong to make generalizations (generalizations about nonhuman animals or plants-that is ok though).
The term racism was allegedly said to have been invented by Trotsky to slander opponents. The original word was "racialist."
HG Wells was a racialist. HP Lovecraft was a racialist.
Racialism has existed since ancient times and does not appear to be on the verge of going away. Canada is the most multicultural English society around and despite 40 years of propaganda, most whites marry whites.
"Birds of a feather flock together." According to the SJW folk, that expression is racist.
Given what we now know about black majority rule--in Zimbabwe, Chicago, Baltimore (where 6 schools with heavy black populations failed to get a single student proficient in basic math) it is understandable that some parents would have misgivings about their children being taught by someone they suspect may have been hired by affirmative action as opposed to merit. It is unfortunate, but reality is not PC. It is better to acknowledge reality than try to pretend it doesn't exist--otherwise you end up with Baltimore in flames and people standing around singing "we are the world."
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 16, 2017 14:49:43 GMT
tpfkar Primemovermithrax Pejorative said:Nobody has said the races are "identical". However, it is entirely base and of very bad form to automatically assign to individuals attributes that may or may not occur more often statistically within specific genetic populations, much less the meaningless trait of skin color. And don't arbitrarily conflate cultural/political situations with "race". Your Racist Friend
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 16, 2017 17:10:17 GMT
tpfkar Primemovermithrax Pejorative said:Nobody has said the races are "identical". However, it is entirely base and of very bad form to automatically assign to individuals attributes that may or may not occur more often statistically within specific genetic populations, much less the meaningless trait of skin color. And don't arbitrarily conflate cultural/political situations with "race".
So it is not bad form to avoid black areas if we have heard that there is more crime in black concentrated areas than white or asian ones? Since we are dealing not with individuals but groups where the statistic may be more easily proven correct? But if we have a child being taught by a black teacher, it is better to suspend that knowledge assumption until it is proven there is some deficiency in the child's education that may result from that relationship? As for culture and politics, I wouldn't say it is arbitrarily conflating it with race. After all, Japan has sumu wrestlers, Africa does not. We have just been socially conditioned since the 1960s to dismiss history when it comes to race relations for an idealized "we are all the same" mantra which does not extend to reductions in warfare--in fact it seems the political figures who claim to be the least racially biased are the ones who have been the biggest proponents of war in the name of globalist beliefs.
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 16, 2017 17:24:35 GMT
tpfkar Primemovermithrax Pejorative said:It is most certainly bad form to avoid "black areas". Areas known for violence is another matter. As far as the black teacher thing, I see you're deep into crazy-land. Students' progress is monitored by standardized testing, of course. You're still conflating race with culture. A Japanese person raised in America or in any number of places other than Japan may have a very different outlook on both sumo and football. And I don't know what your globalist rant is all about. all the same
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 16, 2017 18:16:08 GMT
tpfkar Primemovermithrax Pejorative said:It is most certainly bad form to avoid "black areas". Areas known for violence is another matter. As far as the black teacher thing, I see you're deep into crazy-land. Students' progress is monitored by standardized testing, of course. You're still conflating race with culture. A Japanese person raised in America or in any number of places other than Japan may have a very different outlook on both sumo and football. And I don't know what your globalist rant is all about. all the sameHaha so you think if crime statistics suggest black areas are more dangerous than white it is "bad form" to use that knowledge to make an informed decision on safety. Jesse Jackson said when he walks alone and hears footsteps behind him, he is relieved when he learns the person behind him is white not black, and in the 80s Martin Luther King Jr's widow was moved to a white area because it was deemed safer. A few months ago in Baltimore a white baby was beaten to death by a black daycare worker. The facility was mostly for blacks but I guess the parents of the victim either were poor and couldnt go elsewhere were committed to a non racist philosophy. If the latter, good for them! Ok so their baby died, better that then show any racial bias. I guess you would also think it is bad form to avoid a cave with a lion in it because while statistics suggest lions are carnivorous, there's always the possibility the individual lion is vegetarian.
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 16, 2017 18:20:54 GMT
tpfkar Primemovermithrax Pejorative said:No, I think assuming it instead of considering the area and history. I don't know where Jesse's walking, but moving to a less dangerous area is not remarkable. You can find all manner of horrific incidents that say nothing whatsoever about "race", except for those with agendas. From your posts, I think you're more like the lion in your analogy. fun times
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 16, 2017 18:36:04 GMT
tpfkar Primemovermithrax Pejorative said:No, I think assuming it instead of considering the area and history. I don't know where Jesse's walking, but moving to a less dangerous area is not remarkable. You can find all manner of horrific incidents that say nothing whatsoever about "race", except for those with agendas. From your posts, I think you're more like the lion in your analogy. fun timesSo it IS ok to make racial preferences if considering the area and history. Thanks for validating racial profiling. It can be difficult overcoming decades of media brainwashing with such things so I sympathize. I was talking to an asian fellow one time--they have no such media brainwashing program as we have in the West, or it is in its infancy, and I remarked I knew someone who married a woman from Taiwan and his response was: "yeah, they are pushy and mean spirited aren't they?" I had not described her behavior at all--nothing--and he pegged her perfectly. He also had no qualms about generalizing. No guilt, awkwardness. Anyway I dont mind being compared to a vegetarian lion. Thanks.
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 16, 2017 18:44:50 GMT
tpfkar Primemovermithrax Pejorative said: Did you seriously just get even more random non sequitur? Blah blah mindless chant blah. I believe you. Really promise! Possibility == is, eh? No wonder you're so far off the rails. Rawr
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 16, 2017 18:45:59 GMT
I dont want to agitate you more so i will stop here. Have a good day.
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 16, 2017 18:47:45 GMT
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 16, 2017 18:54:21 GMT
Well I am wearing clothes at the moment but that could change.
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 16, 2017 18:57:47 GMT
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 16, 2017 19:01:18 GMT
Italics are nefarious. Maybe I shouldnt generalize. They can be nefarious.
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Post by thorshairspray on Jul 16, 2017 20:04:04 GMT
tpfkar thorshairspray said:I haven't read it, but is it really saying that or simply that they want better percentages of minority teachers? It isn't saying that, unsurprisingly. The article also mentions that, supposedly, "BME teachers are, on average, paid less than their peers, commonly face discrimination and prejudice when applying for jobs." I guess if that applied to white teachers, the OP might have a point. Read more clearly
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