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Post by cupcakes on Jul 21, 2017 17:26:18 GMT
tpfkar Eva Yojimbo said:So then do you also believe that "They advocate the right to possess firearms"
is also true?
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jul 21, 2017 17:47:54 GMT
tpfkar Eva Yojimbo said:So then do you also believe that "They advocate the right to possess firearms"
is also true? Yes.
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 21, 2017 20:30:44 GMT
tpfkar Eva Yojimbo said:So then do you also believe that "They advocate the right to possess firearms"
is also true? Yes. So do you believe that the following is true or false - The NRA advocate the possession of firearms for those who want them.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jul 21, 2017 20:48:39 GMT
tpfkar Eva Yojimbo said:So then do you also believe that "They advocate the right to possess firearms"
is also true? Yes. Holy balls... three different threads now. It's gone fractal. We'll need to quarantine the forum.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jul 21, 2017 20:51:58 GMT
So do you believe that the following is true or false - The NRA advocate the possession of firearms for those who want them.It's not necessarily either because I don't know if the NRA has a singular policy on the matter. I'm guessing it would vary between members, and some members would only advocate gun ownership for those who want them given certain criteria (like, eg, they have no connections to terrorists or other criminal organizations).
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Post by phludowin on Jul 21, 2017 20:55:09 GMT
Holy balls... three different threads now. It's gone fractal. We'll need to quarantine the forum. Four, if we include the original child sex robots thread. Two of them started by Cupcakes.
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 21, 2017 20:55:39 GMT
tpfkar Eva Yojimbo said:So do you believe that the following is true or false - The NRA advocate the possession of firearms for those who want them given certain criteria are met.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jul 21, 2017 20:56:16 GMT
Holy balls... three different threads now. It's gone fractal. We'll need to quarantine the forum. At least it's become far less hostile. But I fear for my sanity in trying to keep up!
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jul 21, 2017 20:58:26 GMT
tpfkar Eva Yojimbo said:So do you believe that the following is true or false - The NRA advocate the possession of firearms for those who want them given certain criteria are met.Sure, as long as we specify that the NRA as a whole probably doesn't have any single set of criteria that every member agrees with.
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 21, 2017 21:04:12 GMT
Eva Yojimbo said:So do you believe that the following is true or false - The ACNM advocate midwife use for those that want them, given certain criteria are met.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jul 21, 2017 21:29:13 GMT
Eva Yojimbo said:So do you believe that the following is true or false - The ACNM advocate midwife use for those that want them, given certain criteria are met. I wasn't even sure what the ACNM was, but based on a quick search, I assume that would be true.
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 21, 2017 21:34:56 GMT
Eva Yojimbo said:So do you believe that the following is true or false - The ACNM advocate midwife use for those that want them, given certain criteria are met. I wasn't even sure what the ACNM was, but based on a quick search, I assume that would be true. So do you believe that the following is true or false - The ACNM advocate midwife use, given certain criteria are met including the use is wanted.
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 25, 2017 21:03:14 GMT
Surely there was a reason that language was chosen. Exactly; it's the same reason you chose "Eddie is advocating 4-year-olds be abused by predators." The reason is: moral outrage. If you mean the "abuse by predators" as in opens to abuse / subject to abuse by predators, that's no worse and far more accurate than "adult consensual sex with a 4 year-old". As for the "advocated for sex with children as young as 4 years old", that was AJ, which I agreed with given the previous long repeated and continuing evidence chain raised prior to the criteria that were brought up in the thread. After that sorted down to just the criteria within the first few replies, my assertion based on the criteria themselves was advocate "opens to", "be subject to", "exposes", with AJ's assertion being distinct, although of course related. That deezen has "reasons" doesn't change the fact that he advocates putting certain children in that position, and he could trivially exclude them. In any case, noting within a technical conversation between two pro-choicers that we do in fact ultimately advocate the "killing" of "babies", or however you want to word it, is in no way suggesting that such a phrase would be fairly used out of the blue in some debate nor just dropped into a poll meant to mislead. "Abuse by predators" however, easily would be used in a debate like that going on in the thread, especially as the opposite counterpart to "consensual sex with a 4 year-old" phrasing. more
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 28, 2017 1:39:06 GMT
I know, but you stated "Not true as this poll result shows." Do truly believe that this poll "shows" that "The analogous line for deezen's plan would be that deezen advocates adults having sex with children. Also technically true, but the 'choice' explication with it is not the mitigation that it is with 'pro-choice'" is not true? The poll result shows that advocating for a position is different than advocating its consequences, so by extension it shows that Eddie is not advocating adults having sex with children. Pro-choicers advocate mother's choice, Eddie advocates consent-only; Pro-choicers don't advocate killing fetuses, Eddie doesn't (necessarily) advocate adults having sex with children. Do you really believe that even if the poll really covered any of that, that the actual truth of a statement is down to the stated opinion of a small number of visitors to a religious discussion board, even prior to the admitted "moral outrage"-inducing slant? Pro-choicers advocate mother's choice, Eddie advocates his criteria for consent-only; Pro-choicers don't advocate mothers' choice to terminate their "fetuses" 18 months post-birth, Eddie does advocate 4 year-olds being subject to sexual abuse by trust-relationship predator adults based on a farcical criteria for "consent". "advocating adults having sex with children"subject 4 year-olds to sexual use by adults "advocating for a position is different than advocating its consequences" Is different than it's unintentional consequences. In any case even if the contributors were arbiters of the truth and weren't misled, this poll would only speak to its enclosed non-analogous statement that only you made; I just answered directly, both within it's original thread and the abortion context.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 13:00:23 GMT
What if you don't consider yourself pro-life or pro-choice? I would disagree just because it's first of all a generalized statement and even if some think it it doesnt mean all of them do. I don't think any of them do though. it's really just about supporting the right t choose what to do with your own body.
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