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Post by thenewnexus on Jul 20, 2017 21:08:53 GMT
Like I said before its ok for a third attempt,honestly it doesn't offer anything thats all that new or interesting this time around.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 20, 2017 21:54:41 GMT
I find all of those things to be improved on a second viewing, and especially the way the story integrates itself into the wider MCU. It fits snuggly right in to the entire history. I find that my opinion of a movie almost always changes after a second viewing. Homecoming just felt jarringly underwhelming to me the second time 'round. Still enjoyable though. As MCU movies go I'd say it's middle of the pack or lower. My opinion has gotten better for all 16 films. Homecoming felt entirely fulfilling the second time around for me. I don't really rank them so I can't say if it's in the middle but it's as good as the series has been as a whole. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 20, 2017 22:07:51 GMT
Like I said before its ok for a third attempt,honestly it doesn't offer anything thats all that new or interesting this time around. OH I disagree. First it wonderfully melded the story of Spiderman into the entire history of the MCU so far. Second, the depiction of him as a high school student was far better captured. That felt like an actual high school. Third he was worried about his place in the world. Previous spiderman didn't touch this aspect of the character at all. This Peter wasn't moping over some girl, he was trying to grow up, and that's where this film succeeds above the previous ones.
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Post by Spooky Ghost Ackbar on Jul 20, 2017 22:34:51 GMT
Like I said before its ok for a third attempt,honestly it doesn't offer anything thats all that new or interesting this time around. OH I disagree. First it wonderfully melded the story of Spiderman into the entire history of the MCU so far. Second, the depiction of him as a high school student was far better captured. That felt like an actual high school. Third he was worried about his place in the world. Previous spiderman didn't touch this aspect of the character at all. This Peter wasn't moping over some girl, he was trying to grow up, and that's where this film succeeds above the previous ones.
If you think Peter in SM2 was just "moping over some girl" then you missed the whole point. It was actually about him struggling to balance his duel identities, an ever present theme of the comics. They do that in Homecoming as well but I thought Raimi went far deeper and delivered a more satisfying story. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 20, 2017 23:22:26 GMT
If you think Peter in SM2 was just "moping over some girl" then you missed the whole point. It was actually about him struggling to balance his duel identities, an ever present theme of the comics. They do that in Homecoming as well but I thought Raimi went far deeper and delivered a more satisfying story. No I got that he was trying to balance his life, it just involved a lot of moping that's all. I actually went home and watched S2 the night after I saw Homecoming and it was honestly hard to sit through. I couldn't be happier that we got this new take on the character. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 21, 2017 0:17:10 GMT
If you think Peter in SM2 was just "moping over some girl" then you missed the whole point. It was actually about him struggling to balance his duel identities, an ever present theme of the comics. They do that in Homecoming as well but I thought Raimi went far deeper and delivered a more satisfying story. No I got that he was trying to balance his life, it just involved a lot of moping that's all. I actually went home and watched S2 the night after I saw Homecoming and it was honestly hard to sit through. I couldn't be happier that we got this new take on the character. It's almost like you've never read an actual Spider-Man floppy. You haven't, have you? (Spoiler: it's even worse if you have.) |
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Post by Spooky Ghost Ackbar on Jul 21, 2017 1:19:42 GMT
If you think Peter in SM2 was just "moping over some girl" then you missed the whole point. It was actually about him struggling to balance his duel identities, an ever present theme of the comics. They do that in Homecoming as well but I thought Raimi went far deeper and delivered a more satisfying story. No I got that he was trying to balance his life, it just involved a lot of moping that's all. I actually went home and watched S2 the night after I saw Homecoming and it was honestly hard to sit through. I couldn't be happier that we got this new take on the character. I had the opposite experience. I rewatched the original trilogy a few days after Homecoming and (re)realized how much more I like them. Ok, maybe not 3, Homecoming is much better than SM3... but there are even a few (very few) things about that one that I found more enjoyable than Homecoming. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Jul 21, 2017 3:16:03 GMT
Its not even better than ASM1
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 21, 2017 4:41:13 GMT
Its not even better than ASM1 Agreed! |
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 21, 2017 11:02:11 GMT
Its not even better than ASM1 Agreed! Depends if you want a movie that ignores that the rest of the Universe exists or not, and if you want the same old with Uncle Ben over and over and over. There's more to Peter than Uncle Ben. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 21, 2017 12:04:54 GMT
Its not even better than ASM1 It's far better. ASM1 was a remake of SM2 and Homecoming is better than that one too. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Jul 21, 2017 17:31:00 GMT
Depends if you want a movie that ignores that the rest of the Universe exists or not, and if you want the same old with Uncle Ben over and over and over. There's more to Peter than Uncle Ben. There is more than Just High School but yeah thats gonna be a focus for the next two sequels. I want a good story and ASM1 wss. Its Ironic that were saying No more orgins and no Uncle Ben,far better story than Homecoming |
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 21, 2017 21:40:47 GMT
Depends if you want a movie that ignores that the rest of the Universe exists or not, and if you want the same old with Uncle Ben over and over and over. There's more to Peter than Uncle Ben. There is more than Just High School but yeah thats gonna be a focus for the next two sequels. I want a good story and ASM1 wss. Its Ironic that were saying No more orgins and no Uncle Ben,far better story than Homecoming Honestly, I LIKED the Amazing series... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 22:37:48 GMT
There is more than Just High School but yeah thats gonna be a focus for the next two sequels. I want a good story and ASM1 wss. Its Ironic that were saying No more orgins and no Uncle Ben,far better story than Homecoming Honestly, I LIKED the Amazing series... Ditto. Sure, Amazing 2 fumbled the ball in a lot of ways, but its still WAY better than Spider-Man 3. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 22, 2017 3:25:15 GMT
Honestly, I LIKED the Amazing series... Ditto. Sure, Amazing 2 fumbled the ball in a lot of ways, but its still WAY better than Spider-Man 3. Amazing Spider-Man was an absolute turd; it was as bad as any comic book movie I've ever seen. The biggest fight that occurred in that theater was me battling the urge to walk out. I vowed never to pay for another Spider-Man movie, just like you vowed to pay me ten dollars for sticking to my first vow. I say all that to say: where's my ten bucks? |
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 22, 2017 11:10:14 GMT
Ditto. Sure, Amazing 2 fumbled the ball in a lot of ways, but its still WAY better than Spider-Man 3. Amazing Spider-Man was an absolute turd; it was as bad as any comic book movie I've ever seen. The biggest fight that occurred in that theater was me battling the urge to walk out. I vowed never to pay for another Spider-Man movie, just like you vowed to pay me ten dollars for sticking to my first vow. I say all that to say: where's my ten bucks? What, did Andrew Garfield run over your dog or something? |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 22, 2017 15:48:04 GMT
Amazing Spider-Man was an absolute turd; it was as bad as any comic book movie I've ever seen. The biggest fight that occurred in that theater was me battling the urge to walk out. I vowed never to pay for another Spider-Man movie, just like you vowed to pay me ten dollars for sticking to my first vow. I say all that to say: where's my ten bucks? What, did Andrew Garfield run over your dog or something? He bored me almost to death, and that douche Jamie Foxx too. Now where's my ten dollars?! Er. Wait a minute. |
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Post by claudius on Jul 22, 2017 18:28:24 GMT
Are we talking about ASM 1 or 2 (which had Jaime Foxx)? I actually liked the first one over the Raimi trilogy (not a slam against them, although I prefer Emma Stone's Gwen over Kirstin Dunst's MJ). I never saw the second (I'd probably get depressed over...you know).
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 22, 2017 21:08:25 GMT
Are we talking about ASM 1 or 2 (which had Jaime Foxx)? I actually liked the first one over the Raimi trilogy (not a slam against them, although I prefer Emma Stone's Gwen over Kirstin Dunst's MJ). I never saw the second (I'd probably get depressed over...you know). It's as bad as any comic book movie I've ever seen. Easily worse than Batman & Robin. |
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Post by Spooky Ghost Ackbar on Jul 22, 2017 22:09:20 GMT
Are we talking about ASM 1 or 2 (which had Jaime Foxx)? I actually liked the first one over the Raimi trilogy (not a slam against them, although I prefer Emma Stone's Gwen over Kirstin Dunst's MJ). I never saw the second (I'd probably get depressed over...you know). It's as bad as any comic book movie I've ever seen. Easily worse than Batman & Robin. I agree! TASM2 was unwatchable! And the first one was just plain dull and soulless. Even Spiderman 3 crushes them both. |
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