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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 22, 2017 22:26:00 GMT
It's as bad as any comic book movie I've ever seen. Easily worse than Batman & Robin. I agree! TASM2 was unwatchable! And the first one was just plain dull and soulless. Even Spiderman 3 crushes them both. CRUSHES them, even in terms of baseline quality. The Garfield films don't even have any redeeming traits in terms of the "so bad it's good" factor, as with lots of little details about Spider-Man 3. The first is just "dull and soulless," like you said; the second is that plus a fucking terrible script/story and villain.
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Post by Spooky Ghost Ackbar on Jul 22, 2017 22:34:12 GMT
I agree! TASM2 was unwatchable! And the first one was just plain dull and soulless. Even Spiderman 3 crushes them both. CRUSHES them, even in terms of baseline quality. The Garfield films don't even have any redeeming traits in terms of the "so bad it's good" factor, as with lots of little details about Spider-Man 3. The first is just "dull and soulless," like you said; the second is that plus a fucking terrible script/story and villain. Absolutely! Plus theyre not even faithful to the comics as so many like to claim they are. Peter was never a misunderstood skateboarding hipster with a teen heart throb haircut. TASM is like a two hour commercial for Axe spray gel. Also every villain in those two movies is worse than SM3's Venom. Fact!
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 22, 2017 22:35:21 GMT
CRUSHES them, even in terms of baseline quality. The Garfield films don't even have any redeeming traits in terms of the "so bad it's good" factor, as with lots of little details about Spider-Man 3. The first is just "dull and soulless," like you said; the second is that plus a fucking terrible script/story and villain. Absolutely! Plus theyre not even faithful to the comics as so many like to claim they are. Peter was never a misunderstood skateboarding hipster with a teen heart throb haircut. TASM is like a two hour commercial for Axe spray gel. Also every villain in those two movies is worse than SM3's Venom. Fact! Confirmed.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Jul 23, 2017 0:11:57 GMT
CRUSHES them, even in terms of baseline quality. The Garfield films don't even have any redeeming traits in terms of the "so bad it's good" factor, as with lots of little details about Spider-Man 3. The first is just "dull and soulless," like you said; the second is that plus a fucking terrible script/story and villain. Absolutely! Plus theyre not even faithful to the comics as so many like to claim they are. there aren't many who claim such, though, are there? i don't think i've ever heard anyone praise them before IMDb v2.0, and at least some of that seems to be no more than a bizarre extension of MCU tribalism.
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Post by Spooky Ghost Ackbar on Jul 23, 2017 0:24:35 GMT
Absolutely! Plus theyre not even faithful to the comics as so many like to claim they are. there aren't many who claim such, though, are there? i don't think i've ever heard anyone praise them before IMDb v2.0, and at least some of that seems to be no more than a bizarre extension of MCU tribalism. They did back when TASM first came out. A lot of people were saying "Garfield is the definitive Spiderman" and constantly referencing the homemade web shooters as if that one detail was the most important thing ever. Now people are saying the same about Holland/Homecoming, perhaps more deservedly so. But people always seem to jump on the bandwagon and praise whatever's the newest. Now people seem to regard TASM series as being the worst though.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 29, 2017 4:00:23 GMT
there aren't many who claim such, though, are there? i don't think i've ever heard anyone praise them before IMDb v2.0, and at least some of that seems to be no more than a bizarre extension of MCU tribalism. They did back when TASM first came out. A lot of people were saying "Garfield is the definitive Spiderman" and constantly referencing the homemade web shooters as if that one detail was the most important thing ever. Now people are saying the same about Holland/Homecoming, perhaps more deservedly so. But people always seem to jump on the bandwagon and praise whatever's the newest. Now people seem to regard TASM series as being the worst though.I've always regarded it as absolute trash. Homecoming too. Difference is I was stupid enough to pay for the former. I'll never give the latter a penny.
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Post by charzhino on Jul 29, 2017 13:31:50 GMT
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 29, 2017 13:47:00 GMT
That's actually, all kidding/ribbing aside for a millisecond, a really fucking sick review.
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Post by filmfan95 on Jul 30, 2017 22:15:34 GMT
Yeah I enjoyed it the second time around was well. The lack of spider sense bothered me more the second time around though. It doesn't ruin the film by any means and they don't have to do entire scenes revolving around it. But he just keeps getting blindsided by everything, and if anything they could've had even more fun exploring that power in a film that finally got the tone of a Spider-Man story right. All in all still a fantastic flick. I'll be curious to see if he develops a spidey sense later, but honestly it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I suppose if he was your favorite character I could get it, it's not something that would change the course of any story they are trying to tell. To be fair, he didn't have spidey sense in Amazing Fantasy 15 (his first appearance) at all, and when it first appeared in ASM issue #1, it was just "spider instincts," which wasn't anywhere near as complex as the later Spidey senses was. The instincts slowly evolved into the spidey sense, and the implication was that it was something that slowly developed as his powers grew. The adaptations reduced this to him having full-fledged spidey sense right from the start, and I personally did not have a problem with it as it is understandable to simplify details in an adaptation. But if the MCU is going for a more accurate take on it than that's pretty cool. I didn't really notice the lack of spidey sense, so this is news to me.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 30, 2017 22:40:26 GMT
I'll be curious to see if he develops a spidey sense later, but honestly it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I suppose if he was your favorite character I could get it, it's not something that would change the course of any story they are trying to tell. To be fair, he didn't have spidey sense in Amazing Fantasy 15 (his first appearance) at all, and when it first appeared in ASM issue #1, it was just "spider instincts," which wasn't anywhere near as complex as the later Spidey senses was. The instincts slowly evolved into the spidey sense, and the implication was that it was something that slowly developed as his powers grew. The adaptations reduced this to him having full-fledged spidey sense right from the start, and I personally did not have a problem with it as it is understandable to simplify details in an adaptation. But if the MCU is going for a more accurate take on it than that's pretty cool. I didn't really notice the lack of spidey sense, so this is news to me. I didn't notice it either, because it's not one of those things that really impact story, but I like what you're saying about developing it later. I just look at it as something he might not be attune to yet, and they did make a big deal about him going through puberty in the film. Perhaps he really hasn't got it up and working fully yet. I guess we'll find out.
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