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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 23:46:15 GMT
I remember seeing this on Syfy as a teen and it freaking me out in parts. (Like the opening murder).
What were your thoughts on it? I sort of wish they had followed it on with a sequel. Maybe it will be turned into a tv show one day.
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Post by Captain Spencer on Jul 21, 2017 1:23:45 GMT
Loved it. Clive Barker at his best. Full of creativity and imagination, and a lot of good scary monsters.
I don't believe it was successful enough to warrant a sequel.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Jul 21, 2017 12:31:37 GMT
One of my favorite early 90s horror/adventures. Brilliant special effects, loved David Cronenbergs creepy character, and as Dramatic Look Gopher said it, it is full on with fine creativity, fantasy and sadly it did not do well enough (box office wise) to get a sequel. I am thinking of buying the extended version, as I still have not gotten to do so.
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Post by skribb on Jul 21, 2017 13:08:49 GMT
Cool visuals, lame movie.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Sept 19, 2017 14:19:16 GMT
The book was awesome, the movie okay. I never did see the extended version though.
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Post by ravi02 on Feb 17, 2018 21:46:29 GMT
Still need to read the book, but I saw both versions of the film in the theatrical and Director's Cut (the one on Netflix).
Nightbreed has a cool premise and I appreciate what Clive Barker was trying to do (make "the Star Wars of horror films"), but I find the execution flawed, and that goes for both versions of the film.
First, I find Craig Sheffer to be a bland hero and I didn't get why he desires to be part of Nightbreed. It doesn't appear to be something exciting. To use a similar genre as an example, in most superhero movies we see the heroes use their enjoy their newfound abilities before fighting the villains. It doesn't happen here. Secondly, the Nightbreed monsters are supposed to be stand-ins for oppressed people and outcasts, right? Then why are most of them shown to be unsympathetic evil monsters?
Still, the creature costumes still look great and David Cronenberg's a chilling villain. Nightbreed may be a flawed movie, but it has an interesting premise that I feel deserves a remake. I hope Barker can turn it into a TV series and do it right this time.
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Post by rateater on Feb 19, 2018 18:25:44 GMT
so good. like the original but the new version has an extended 'star wars cantina like' monster collection moment with all sorts of fx and it's great to watch. the town cop, the fbi guy (panaka from phantom menace), cronenberg, the priest and there interactions are all so great in this.
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Post by Reynard on Feb 19, 2018 23:48:32 GMT
Still need to read the book, but I saw both versions of the film in the theatrical and Director's Cut (the one on Netflix). Nightbreed has a cool premise and I appreciate what Clive Barker was trying to do (make "the Star Wars of horror films"), but I find the execution flawed, and that goes for both versions of the film. First, I find Craig Sheffer to be a bland hero and I didn't get why he desires to be part of Nightbreed. It doesn't appear to be something exciting. To use a similar genre as an example, in most superhero movies we see the heroes use their enjoy their newfound abilities before fighting the villains. It doesn't happen here. Secondly, the Nightbreed monsters are supposed to be stand-ins for oppressed people and outcasts, right? Then why are most of them shown to be unsympathetic evil monsters? Still, the creature costumes still look great and David Cronenberg's a chilling villain. Nightbreed may be a flawed movie, but it has an interesting premise that I feel deserves a remake. I hope Barker can turn it into a TV series and do it right this time. I found that very troubling too. Barker preaches in favor of tolerance and oppressed people, yet he shows them as monsters that kill without much reason. Which is also true with Hellraiser, by the way. Barker also portrays most of "normal people" to to either stupid or evil, or both, which makes me wonder if he is in any position to be preaching. Many of his novels have this very black-and-white worldview too, which is sad, since he is a good writer. Nightbreed would have probably been a better movie with someone else directing. Barker's work is often very workmanlike, though there are many great scenes, like the first kill by Cronenberg's villain, who is also a great character. Directing actors certainly is not his strong point either while the casting is a mixed bag, which results to a movie that is about events and not characters, while Barker probably wanted it to be a character-driven story. Not saying that Nightbreed is a bad movie, but it indeed has huge amounts of wasted potential. This is not a popular opinion, but I liked Lord of Illusions - Director's Cut to be his most mature work on almost all levels, though rather bland characters and uneven casting still remain. Candyman remains the best movie based on his work and Bernard Rose is obviously a much better director.
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Post by Reynard on Feb 20, 2018 1:45:43 GMT
Just to be clear, I don't think that Barker is a great author. He's very much about ideas - the concepts of his early short stories are often extraordinary and not the usual horror clichés. Characters are there to keep the story going and sometimes nice, but not much more. Barker's writing can be very good and entertaining, or just good enough to keep the story going, but with lesser ideas no one would care much about the words.
His writing is to some extent crippled by the fact that he pretty much always writes stories about supposedly sympathetic underdog character, yet he really doesn't seem to give a shit about them. A trait that is, as already said, really obvious in Nightbreed movie also.
I have never actually read Cabal or any other of Barker's books, so the comment is based on Books of Blood alone. Nightbreed is a very visual as a movie, or at least tries to be, but not the kind of story that I'd be likely to enjoy as a book.
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