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Post by shadyvsesham on Jul 23, 2017 2:27:48 GMT
I always try, and heck Ill keep trying. For most, if you wanna make predictions, just copy paste the card and bold the winners will be great. This card is stacked! (Lets hope everyone passed the drug tests, no injuries or flus for once, please! Jones just fight ffs!)
(Im not gonna do the preliminary UFC fights. Prelims + main card)
Main Card:
Light Heavyweight Daniel Cormier (c) vs. Jon Jones (Light weight title fight)
Welterweight Tyron Woodley (c) vs. Demian Maia (Welter weight title fight)
Women's Featherweight Cristiane Justino vs. Tonya Evinger [c] (Womens featherweight title fight
Welterweight Robbie Lawler vs. Donald Cerrone
Light Heavyweight Jimi Manuwa vs. Volkan Oezdemir
Preliminary Card (FXX):
Featherweight Ricardo Lamas vs. Jason Knight
Catchweight (140 lbs) Aljamain Sterling vs. Renan Barão
Featherweight Brian Ortega vs. Renato Moicano
Featherweight Andre Fili vs. Calvin Kattar
Now my predictions:
Main Card:
Light Heavyweight Daniel Cormier (c) vs. Jon Jones
Welterweight Tyron Woodley (c) vs. Demian Maia
Women's Featherweight Cristiane Justino vs. Tonya Evinger [c]
Welterweight Robbie Lawler vs. Donald Cerrone
Light Heavyweight Jimi Manuwa vs. Volkan Oezdemir
Preliminary Card (FXX):
Featherweight Ricardo Lamas vs. Jason Knight
Catchweight (140 lbs) Aljamain Sterling vs. Renan Barão
Featherweight Brian Ortega vs. Renato Moicano
Featherweight Andre Fili vs. Calvin Kattar
Prelims:
-Fili Vs Kattar - IDK a d@mn thing about Kattar. Fili has a pattern though and picking him scares me:
Last 6 fights:
L/W/L/W/L/W
Ouch! Im gonna close my eyes and say Fili finally wins 2 in a row.
-Ortega Vs Moicano - This is crazy.
Both guys are 11-0-1 (Well Ortega would be 12-0, but he tested positive for drostanolone.)
Im gonna go Ortega, someone has to lose (Or hey, could be a draw! Im going 29-28, Ortega).
-Sterling Vs Barao - I dont think Sterling can hang with Barao.
-Lamas Vs Knight - Lamas is 4-2 (Losing to Holloway and Mendes, no shame in that).
Knight has went 5-1. I think Knight is gonna surprise people, but I think Lamas wins. Experience is why.
Main card
-Manuwa Vs Oezdemir
Manuwa has only lost 2 fights to Gustafsson and Rampage Johnson.
Oezdemir has only lost one fight Anundson, 14-1.
I've seen Manuwa fight, I think if he wins, a title shot could be in his future (I think Gustafsson is next, but Manuwa is hot on his trail). He loses, he falls and might not see a shot for a bit. I think Manuwa knows this, I got Manuwa, but if he loses, we could be seeing a new light heavyweight star. I just cant see Manuwa losing.
-Lawler V Cerrone - Cerrone is one of those iron men. The guy just loves to fight. He seems like he fights 4-6 times a year. His last fight he did lose to Masvidal, he has went 14-2 in his last 16 fights (He just cant beat Dos Anjos).
Lawler, his last fight he got knocked the F out by Woodley way back in UFC 201. I like Lawler, but ring rust worries me. I got Cerrone in what I think is gonna be a slug fest.
-Cyborg Vs Evinger - Cyborg. (Sorry she is fn scary. When Randamie won the featherweight title against Holm, she had to fight Evinger. She said, ehhh here take back the title Ill go back to Bantamweight).
-Maia Vs Woodley - Maia is 39, it's now or never. He is 7-0 atm. (Last loss was to Rory M way back at UFC 170).
Woodley is 5-1-1 in his last 7 (Last loss...lol was also to Rory M back at UFC 174. He had a draw with Thompson at 205).
This is gonna be striking Vs Grappling. Maia has to get Woodley down. Im gonna close my eyes and pick Woodley, but I wont be shocked if Maia wins.
MAIN EVENT:
-DC Vs Jones
The fight everyone has been waiting for. We thought we'd get it at UFC 200. Sadly, no. DC is 19-1, he only lost too...yup, Jon Jones at UFC 182.
Jones really has never lost a fight in his career. (His one loss is a BS DQ loss where he was smashing Matt Hamill. 12-6 elbow, DQ loss. He has never legit lost a fight.) With that silly DQ loss, he is 22-1.
Jones hasn't fought since UFC 197 smashing Saint Preux. DC is another level.
Jones rust worries me...but the man is a fn beast. DC is 38, Jones is 30. Again, what worries me is it seems a lot of "trilogy" fights, whoever wins first, the other guy wins the next two. This is fn Jon Jones. I haven't seen him loss yet, and I cant bet against him.
Jones gets his title back.
So curious what you all think, btw, you don't gotta go into details like me. Id love to just see highlighted prediction cards. Love to hear and see any predictions!
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Post by xystophoros on Jul 23, 2017 15:01:45 GMT
I would not bet against Jones either, not even with all the problems he's had, the drugs and legal troubles, and the rust. He's just proven he's too good. Everyone loses eventually, but in MMA it's not easy to see it coming because of the time between fights. In other sports you see athletes every few nights, in MMA you see them twice a year or even less if there are injuries.
I'd take Damian Maia in the welter weight title fight. I normally loathe obnoxious Brazilians, but Maia seems like a good dude, he's not a typical idiot Brazilian, and he's got a way underrated skill set.
As for Justino, she IS an obnoxious Brazilian, a steroid-fueled freak with acne everywhere. She's been caught before and she will be caught again. I pick her to win by brute force and no technique, like she always does, but she will get another PED strike before long and she'll be sent packing back to Invicta where she can obliterate more tiny Japanese women.
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Post by shadyvsesham on Jul 23, 2017 15:29:52 GMT
I would not bet against Jones either, not even with all the problems he's had, the drugs and legal troubles, and the rust. He's just proven he's too good. Everyone loses eventually, but in MMA it's not easy to see it coming because of the time between fights. In other sports you see athletes every few nights, in MMA you see them twice a year or even less if there are injuries. I'd take Damian Maia in the welter weight title fight. I normally loathe obnoxious Brazilians, but Maia seems like a good dude, he's not a typical idiot Brazilian, and he's got a way underrated skill set. As for Justino, she IS an obnoxious Brazilian, a steroid-fueled freak with acne everywhere. She's been caught before and she will be caught again. I pick her to win by brute force and no technique, like she always does, but she will get another PED strike before long and she'll be sent packing back to Invicta where she can obliterate more tiny Japanese women. I wont lie, I get so happy when anyone responds! I love UFC now (Boxing to me is a joke...Floyd and Connor? Floyd has hurt boxing so much). Ok with that: How do I bet on a guy who is basically 22-0 (One bs dq loss as I said). I cant bet against Jones. I might be in a minority, I hate DC. He so badly wants to be "loved." It is so obvious to me. I feel you on Maia, dude I sat at that match for a few. It was hard for me to pick. If this goes on the ground, all bets are off. Woodley better keep it standing. I agree with Justino. When I saw Carano Vs Justano I said,"jesus she has to fight this steroid freak." Yea I see her winning and maybe not this fight, but she will be popped for PEDs again. Now I am curious, what do you think about the other two main carders? Cerrone Vs Lawler and Manuwa Vs Oezdemir? (No biggie you don wanna get into the prelims, even though the MEvent prelim fight has promise. Lamas Vs Knight) But I admit I am curious on your views with Cerrone and Lawler Manuwa Vs Oezdemir. Love to hear your though brother.  |
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Post by xystophoros on Jul 24, 2017 4:05:35 GMT
Well I have to admit I've slacked in recent years so I don't know all the undercards. I went through a phase where I was bummed that all the fighters I loved to see -- Fedor, Wanderlei, Anderson Silva, Josh Koscheck, Dan Henderson, Cro Cop, Big Nog, Shogun, Sakuraba, etc -- were either retiring or shadows of their former selves.
So I've got some catching up to do on the young fighters...I also don't know much about the really low weight classes.
I remember that Carano vs Chborg right though. Wasn't that immediately after Cyborg obliterated that tiny Japanese girl? It was Strikeforce.
Did you ever see Cyborg vs Marlowe Coenen? The first one in 2010 I think, also in Strikeforce. You could see that Coenen was excellent at BJJ, ground defense, fundamentals...a true pro. She survived the first few onslaughts from Justino and she even remained calm as they grappled, looking relaxed like Gegard Mousasi. She did everything right and she still lost. Justino kept coming and wore her down until she got the KO.
With Carano it was similar although Carano was never as technically sound as Coenen. Here was the champion of the division getting tossed around like a rag doll. And Cyborg didn't have any technique or savvy, she just brute forced her way through like a dude fighting in the women's division.
That is why I think the UFC wouldn't let that Rousey-Justino fight happen. Sure, they knew their photogenic and popular champion was bound to lose at some point, but they were not gonna allow the belt of the fledgling women's division to fall into the hands of a steroid freak with acne all over her face and back.
Who are you picking for the two other big fights at 214?
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Post by granny on Jul 24, 2017 22:31:01 GMT
DC misses weight (again). Jones wins by standing guillotine choke, later fails drug test.
Woodley wins another boring decision while Maia refuses to engage ala Maia/Silva
Cyborg misses weight, wins by round 1 KO, later fails drug test.
Lawler wins by round 3 TKO. It's bloody.
Jimi wins by round 1 KO, calls DC fat again in his postfight interview.
Sorry for the spoilers.
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Post by granny on Jul 29, 2017 16:35:58 GMT
Bump.
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Post by shadyvsesham on Jul 29, 2017 21:37:57 GMT
LMAO @ granny those are legit. DC always looks like a chub to me. I hope Jones can get his $hit together, but yea, at this point we are missing maybe the best fighter ever in MMA due to his own f*** ups. (Almost as bad as Khabib. Misses weight, hurt his pinky, dude is 24-0, but cant make weight and is brittle as all hell) If Woodley goes to the ground, uh oh. Cyborg is a monster, lost her first fight, hasnt lost since. Im excited for Lawler-Cerrone. Whoever wins I think this could be fight of the night. LMAO @ Manuwa. Beautiful! ____________ I did see Carano and Cyborg, when I saw Cyborg I said,"Uh oh." I liked Carano (I wont lie, I thought she was beautiful, a lot prettier over the golden girl Ronda). I think Woodley wins, but this is it for Maia imo. He is 39, this is his shot. Im so torn on this fight, I think Woodley wins, but if Maia can get him on the ground and on top, could be Maias night. I dont think DC wins, Jones is just younger and is only 30. DC is 38. ONLY chance DC IMHO has, he better pray Jones is rusty af. Ive never seen him lose a fight....well.....that Matt H fight, it should have gotten stopped. The ref was letting Matt take way too much damage. Jon did a 12-6 elbow, DQ. Also, his closest fight wasnt even against DC, he, from what I recall, has had 2 close instances. UFC 152 Belfort had him in a nice submission, I thought Jones arm was gonna pop. That was really close. He got out and smashed Belfort from there. HIS CLOSEST CALL by far, UFC 165 against Gustafsson. xystophoros if you never seen UFC 165, check that fight out. I believe it won fight of the year, and it was great. I hate to say, I had the fight 3-2 for Gustafsson. I had Alex def winning 1, and gave him 2-3. Jones had more stamina and won 4-5. I can see though how a judge might have given Jones round 3. (Or was it 2, I need to rewatch it, round 2 or 3 was close). Round 1 (And either 2 or 3) were def for Alex. Now who the hell, what judge scored it 49-46, fn insane. The other two, who had it Jones 48-47, ok, I can see that. Alex def won two rounds (Im so sorry I forgot which round, 2 or 3, was closer. I know Alex def won round 1.). I remember though being baffled by the 49-46 card. Honorable mention: UFC 159: Sonnen - I know people are gonna go,"wtf he smashed Sonnen." He did, but his toe....yikes! He better be glad he ended the fight in round 1 because IDK if they would have let him continue with his toe like that. Sonnen got smashed. Im not sure what Daniel can do against Jones. The DC Vs Gustafsson fight was also close (DC by split) (Who is the jackoff who scored that 49-46). I personally dont like DC. I think he's a suck @$$, he wants the fans to like him so bad, he wants to go into this fight "the hero." I think he is a boring fighter tbqh. (And injury prone). UFC 200 against Siva was a fn joke, he just basically laid on Silva. IDK wtf Rumble Johnsons gameplan was for UFC 210. Worst game plan I've ever seen. I personally dont like his style (DC), but Jones is just another level. Only way I think DC wins is if Jones is just that rusty. |
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Post by granny on Jul 30, 2017 1:41:29 GMT
Ortega spent 2.5 rounds boxing instead of using his BJJ for some reason... See how fast it was over when he finally went to the ground? Needs to listen to his coaches more, because I think he was about to lose a decision if he didn't pull off the sub.
Sterling looked great... Super entertaining guy. Crazy how much Barão has fallen off since the loss to TJ... I dunno where he goes from here.
Shoutout to Mike Beltran's 'stache.
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Post by granny on Jul 30, 2017 1:43:19 GMT
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Post by shadyvsesham on Jul 30, 2017 2:45:40 GMT
Jesus so far Im off af. UH OH, Jones better help me out!
I didnt know who Kattar was, I figured Fili would win, oops.
I agree on Ortega. GO TO THE GROUND dude, over ASAP when it went to the ground.
WTF happened to Barao!? Seriously, what has happened here!? I thought Barao would win, I really did. He started 0-1, and he went 32-0-1 (32-1-1 officially with his first MMA fight loss).
After TJ...yea granny is right, when he got that loss to TJ, since than the guy has went 2-4. (Losing twice to Dillashaw, lost to Jeremy "Who the f*** is that guy" Stephens, and now Sterling. His 2 wins against Gagnon and Nover (IDK much about Nover other than his last 3 fights he's 0-3, Gagnon is "okay").
I think Barao is gonna have to do the Anthony Pettis/Hendricks route, change weight classes (WTF has happened to those two guys too) Yea, Im surprised Barao lost this. I like this Sterling kid, like I said if he pulls this off, could be seeing a future star.
Glad to see Lamas get the KO. He is always in the hunt.
WOW with Manuwa being knocked out. I mean Manuwa only lost to Gustaffson and Rumble, so this Oezdemir is the real deal. He's 15-1 with his only loss over in Bellator to Kelly Anundson. (He knocked Jimi out FAST!)
So yikes, atm im 2-3. Im not confident in this Lawler/Cerrone fight, this can go either way. I still dont see Cyborg losing, Maia has to know this is his final shot being 39, and I hope Jones isnt rusty.
And god I hate that guys stache, it looks so unprofessional. IDK, so darn goofy to me!
Edit - Lawler won (29-28 all judges). I really saw it going either way. Man Lawler brought his career back in a huge way.
I dont think the next fight lasts long. I cant see Cyborg losing, I gotta go 3-0 in the next 3, 2-4, worst night ever.
Edit 2 - Well what a shock, Cyborg won, she was smashing poor Evinger. This was imho a gimmie. 3-4. Woodley/Jones, dont let me down. (More confident in Jones, but man I hope he doesnt show rust.)
Woodley is becoming the most boring fighter in MMA.
Since the Lawler fight (Good fight) his 2 Thompson fights blew hard. Maia fight, yikes.
Yikes.
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Post by shadyvsesham on Jul 30, 2017 5:07:30 GMT
And New champion of the world....JONNY BONES JONES.
Cormier looked good for a bit. Got a good shot at the end of round 1. Won round 2, but round 3, kick, boom, Cormier dazed, Jones wins.
5-4 Jones and Woodley brought me home. Cormier has lost 2 fights in his career to the same guy, Jones is just another fn level.
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Post by xystophoros on Jul 30, 2017 20:12:03 GMT
Jones silenced his critics by stopping Cormier. It's amazing how the dude could miss so much time, have drug problems, have legal troubles, and still come back and win over top competition.
Unless of course Granny's prediction is true and he gets popped for PEDs... I'd hope the dude is smarter than that at this point though. Enough fucking around, MMA careers are short, build the legacy while you can.
Not surprised at Justino winning. Once again, a brute force, steroid-powered mountain of a woman. I wonder if this is going to sink interest in the women's divisions.
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Post by granny on Aug 23, 2017 1:32:35 GMT
Pop!
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Post by shadyvsesham on Aug 23, 2017 3:11:25 GMT
Jesus christ....JJ on drugs again!? My god....Seriously....seriously?! xystophoros he got popped....AGAIN! |
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Post by xystophoros on Aug 23, 2017 6:04:31 GMT
Just saw your other thread on this and commented there. But lol granny was right... dude popped for some serious PEDs. The UFC has to do something about this, because it fucks things up. Either they hit fighters severely in the wallet for failed drug tests, making the consequences of getting caught greater than the potential rewards for juicing...or they need to take testing out of the hands of the USADA and conduct their own sham PED testing. Then the fighters can use all the roids they want. It's one thing when a win or loss is changed to a NC because of a positive test, but arguably far more damaging to the UFC is its popular fighters sitting out years of their prime because of USADA rules. Problem is if they pull out of USADA testing, they'd lose sanctioning and become the 1990s UFC, when John McCain was condemning MMA as human cockfighting. |
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Post by shadyvsesham on Aug 23, 2017 7:43:39 GMT
Just saw your other thread on this and commented there. But lol granny was right... dude popped for some serious PEDs. The UFC has to do something about this, because it fucks things up. Either they hit fighters severely in the wallet for failed drug tests, making the consequences of getting caught greater than the potential rewards for juicing... or they need to take testing out of the hands of the USADA and conduct their own sham PED testing. Then the fighters can use all the roids they want.
It's one thing when a win or loss is changed to a NC because of a positive test, but arguably far more damaging to the UFC is its popular fighters sitting out years of their prime because of USADA rules.Problem is if they pull out of USADA testing, they'd lose sanctioning and become the 1990s UFC, when John McCain was condemning MMA as human cockfighting. It is getting sad. I also replied (Again long rant, im still shell shocked over this. I really was a big JJ fan, I loved watching the guy fight, so much talent, and he did it at a young age. DJ is good, but lets be real, he isnt fighting near the talent Jones was.) Yea, I guess it's good to clean the sport, but we are losing a lot of fighter here. Dos Santos just got popped (I mentioned that as well in the other thread) and those "NC" changed because of a test sucks. Lets be real, we all saw what happened and know the result, it isnt "official" but we will all remember round 3 of DC vs JJ. I hope this gets fixed because LHW division is now a mess, we are losing big fights all the dang time and card are changed like that. I honestly dont order UFC cards because...will I get that card? Look at UFC 213...2 guys I never heard of become the co-main because Nunes had a flu bug or some BS. Also, Ferguson Vs Khabib fight that never happened. I love this sport but it's starting to get highly frustrating. Hey, we could get Lesnar V Jones, why not, let em both juice! Battle of the "juicers!" I guess atm those Fertitta brothers are thinking,"we got out just at the right time." BTW, glad to of heard from you, on both threads brother. |
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Post by xystophoros on Aug 23, 2017 18:42:44 GMT
Yeah, sorry I haven't been around as much, I was in Washington hanging out with my brother and his family before they move to Tokyo. (My brother works for the Department of State and he's been assigned there. I can't wait to go, in fact I'm trying to get a job in Tokyo so I can live there for a year. Gonna be balls deep in some Japanese girls!) But it's good talking to you too -- we're like the only consistent MMA fans here, along with granny.  Well, I agree with what you said about Jones vs Lesnar...either let these guys juice, and just acknowledge that juicing is part of the sport, or find a way to get them to stop, or take the USADA out of the picture. This is the first I heard of Dos Santos...makes sense though, right? That's a guy who was at his ceiling and was sliding into a gatekeeper role. He probably figured the PEDs would put him at the top again. I know for a fact that my own interest in UFC wanes when they have weak LHW and HW divisions. I like to see these huge monsters fighting...and those guys have real KO power, whereas you watch some of the weight classes like Flyweight and it's ridiculous, dudes can't even KO each other. |
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