barkingbaphomet
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Jul 23, 2017 21:51:39 GMT
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Post by brownstones on Jul 23, 2017 22:39:10 GMT
That's typical hypocrisy by MCU fans. Nah, the MCU isn't ashamed of itself and embraces the wackiness. DCEU keeps trying to present itself as "serious drama", so when they try this stuff it doesn't match up. so........what do you think they should have done?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 24, 2017 1:05:40 GMT
i'm a little confused, wasn't one of the biggest (superficial) complaints MoS and BvS received was that they were too serious, too brooding, so they lighten it up for JL and now the tone is all wrong? really?................ really? That wasn't one of my complaints. The only problem that really existed that I could tell was really poor writing of script and dialogue.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 1:06:02 GMT
Why are you applying what other people have said to me?
I've never said their problem was being dark, it was just lazy writing. Repeatedly, for characters, for plot points, for dialogue, etc. And their other problem has been favoring visuals over story, apparently thinking that trying to make stuff look cool is the most important part, and it's showed in a bad way.
And even though you're assuming Joss wrote the humor, let's run with that. So what? Am I obligated to laugh? Maybe it doesn't work as well because it's not as integrated into the story as it might have been if he'd written and filmed the entire thing. Have you considered that? Or are you just arguing for the sake of it?
For the record the only DCEU movie I like is WW. I'm not trying to defend DC. In fact I'm very much on the fence about this movie. I just think it's quite humorous to see how fans will turn on a style of story telling just because it's a different studio doing it. If Snyder made an MCU movie I guarantee you Marvel fanboys would love it and DC fanboys would hate it. Snyder would never be allowed to make an MCU film, because he's frankly unable to put together a coherent narrative. And I've hated all his work since basically the beginning of his career.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 24, 2017 1:12:23 GMT
Nah, the MCU isn't ashamed of itself and embraces the wackiness. DCEU keeps trying to present itself as "serious drama", so when they try this stuff it doesn't match up. so........what do you think they should have done? They shouldn't have tried the "serious drama" thing in the first place and just been apologetic about embracing the over-the-top nature of DC.
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Post by brownstones on Jul 24, 2017 3:30:30 GMT
so........what do you think they should have done? They shouldn't have tried the "serious drama" thing in the first place and just been apologetic about embracing the over-the-top nature of DC. ...k But I mean here, with JL and now going forward.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 24, 2017 11:14:06 GMT
They shouldn't have tried the "serious drama" thing in the first place and just been apologetic about embracing the over-the-top nature of DC. ...k But I mean here, with JL and now going forward. I dunno.
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Post by dknaveed23 on Jul 24, 2017 13:44:27 GMT
For a guy who fellates the MCU all the time... Your comment is very rich (and this is coming from an MCU fan)
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 24, 2017 15:47:08 GMT
For a guy who fellates the MCU all the time... Your comment is very rich (and this is coming from an MCU fan) I do fellate the MCU. It has earned the pleasure. Conversely DC has not and in all seriousness needs a lot of constructive criticism if they are ever going to get to producing a consistent quality product. All I'm saying is that JL looks like a literal live action cartoon without any sort of subtlety or atmosphere. I didn't feel anything watching that like I did with the WW trailer or with DS, SM, GOTG2, Ragnorak, Panther, etc. It just seems like it's another unrealistic tone with a lot of splosions. And my love for the MCU really has nothing to do with it. Praise for one franchise doesn't translate to another, and it wouldn't effect my enjoyment or admiration for them if they were making quality products. I love BB and TDK for instance. Superman Returns plane catching sequence is one of the best things I've ever seen. TDKR was poorly scripted, but I'm certainly capable of praising and enjoying DC productions. They just haven't been any good.
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Post by brownstones on Jul 24, 2017 17:45:21 GMT
For a guy who fellates the MCU all the time... Your comment is very rich (and this is coming from an MCU fan) I do fellate the MCU. It has earned the pleasure. Eww.
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Post by King Conan on Jul 24, 2017 18:04:48 GMT
That sounds creepy.
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Post by primeone on Jul 24, 2017 18:21:54 GMT
i'm a little confused, wasn't one of the biggest (superficial) complaints MoS and BvS received was that they were too serious, too brooding, so they lighten it up for JL and now the tone is all wrong? really?................ really? Haters just want to nitpick at everything. They're still gonna see the movie anyway lol
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 24, 2017 19:22:30 GMT
I do fellate the MCU. It has earned the pleasure. Eww. lololol
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 24, 2017 19:23:17 GMT
Haters just want to nitpick at everything. They're still gonna see the movie anyway lol I haven't seen BVS or SS yet and don't plan to. Didn't see GL either. I only saw MOS on an agreement to finally get my brother to watch The Godfather. WW deserved a watch, but I would have gladly waited for Netflix if my wife hadn't been so interested in it.
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Post by brownstones on Jul 24, 2017 19:27:40 GMT
Haters just want to nitpick at everything. They're still gonna see the movie anyway lol I haven't seen BVS or SS yet and don't plan to. Didn't see GL either. I only saw MOS on an agreement to finally get my brother to watch The Godfather. WW deserved a watch, but I would have gladly waited for Netflix if my wife hadn't been so interested in it. Would it go to Netflix? You know since Warner Brothers, Time Warner, HBO.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 24, 2017 20:05:11 GMT
I haven't seen BVS or SS yet and don't plan to. Didn't see GL either. I only saw MOS on an agreement to finally get my brother to watch The Godfather. WW deserved a watch, but I would have gladly waited for Netflix if my wife hadn't been so interested in it. Would it go to Netflix? You know since Warner Brothers, Time Warner, HBO. I wasn't worried about seeing it enough to find out honestly. The thing about it is, if I'm going to watch a standalone movie now days, it has to be doing something unique. I'll follow the MCU because it's an episode in a greater whole which gives every film more value. WW has that a little, but since the rest of the DCU has been so shitty, that part of it loses most all of it's value, so it's really just a movie by itself. And it's fine for what it is, but I didn't find it all that compelling really.
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Post by primeone on Jul 24, 2017 20:59:15 GMT
Haters just want to nitpick at everything. They're still gonna see the movie anyway lol I haven't seen BVS or SS yet and don't plan to. Didn't see GL either. I only saw MOS on an agreement to finally get my brother to watch The Godfather. WW deserved a watch, but I would have gladly waited for Netflix if my wife hadn't been so interested in it. Then everything you have ever said about DCEU is 100% irrelevant
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 24, 2017 22:21:56 GMT
I haven't seen BVS or SS yet and don't plan to. Didn't see GL either. I only saw MOS on an agreement to finally get my brother to watch The Godfather. WW deserved a watch, but I would have gladly waited for Netflix if my wife hadn't been so interested in it. Then everything you have ever said about DCEU is 100% irrelevant Not at all. I saw MOS and WW and so I know what people are referring to when they discuss the style and narrative problems of the others. I've seen most all of the scenes of BVS and SS just youtubing them, read all about them, etc. I'm just not going to sit there for 2 hours straight watching a shit movie, that's all.
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Post by charzhino on Jul 24, 2017 23:32:20 GMT
It does look cheesy but nothing compares to the cheese levels obtained by the Thor Ragnarok trailer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 23:33:36 GMT
It does look cheesy but nothing compares to the cheese levels obtained by the Thor Ragnarok trailer. Your bias is showing.
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