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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 26, 2017 16:39:12 GMT
Did SMH ever say that Peter started using his powers to help people after he let a thief get away who murdered Uncle Ben? MCU fans keep saying they didn't need to show Peter's origin story because it should be common knowledge for anyone who's familiar with Spider-Man. By that same reasoning, WW doesn't have to spoon-feed it to you that Hephaestus forged the lasso and the bracelets because Hippolyta said they received many gifts from the gods and it's common knowledge that Hephaestus created weapons for the gods.
Unlike Norse mythology (in which most of the general public have only heard about Odin, Thor, and Loki and don't know much about the other gods), Greek mythology is the most popular mythology in the world and most people know about the Trojan War and other famous Greek myths and most people know who the Greek gods are.
There are some stories that are so famous that no explanation is necessary. When someone says "the face that launched a thousand ships", everyone knows that's a reference to Helen of Troy. When someone says "betrayed by a kiss", everyone knows that's a reference to Judas betraying Jesus.
Most people know that Zeus was the King of the Gods. Most people know that Ares was the God of War. Most people know that Hades was the God of the Underworld. Most people know that Poseidon was the God of the Sea. Most people know that Aphrodite was the Goddess of Love. And most people know that Hephaestus made weapons for the Gods. So those don't have to be spoon-fed to you.
But most people don't know anything about the MacGuffin gauntlets or the Infinity Stones. Who made the Infinity Stone gauntlets and why make a right-hand-gauntlet and left-hand-gauntlet when only 1 gauntlet is needed and the gauntlets by themselves are useless without the Infinity Stones? What is the purpose of the 2nd gauntlet if it's useless without the Infinity Stones? That's not common knowledge. Heck, not even you MCU fans can explain that.
Most people don't care. You do. So what most people think, according to you Doesn't matter. Did they state that the godkiller was made by Hephaestus? Cause it wasn't now was it? It was a ruse. So what most people think might not be true. If they don't say he made the lasso it's anyone's guess who made it in the movie version. But guess what nobody cares. It's irrelevant like who made the gauntlet. It's just you asking for trouble. Diana is the Godkiller so the Godkiller was "created" by the union of Zeus and Hippolyta. That was pretty clear in the movie.
And Hippolyta said they received many gifts from the gods (heck, the entire island of Themyscira was created by Zeus himself) so it's pretty clear that Hephaestus forged the lasso and the bracelets just like he forged the other weapons for the gods.
As for who made the MacGuffin guantlets, that's not as important as why the gauntlet-maker made a right-hand gauntlet and a left-hand gauntlet when only 1 gauntlet is needed and the guantlets by themselves are useless without the Infinity Stones. What is the purpose of the 2nd gauntlet if it's useless without the Infinity Stones? Are there 2 power-hungry tyrants who want to rule the universe?
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Post by mcufan on Jul 26, 2017 16:49:53 GMT
Most people don't care. You do. So what most people think, according to you Doesn't matter. Did they state that the godkiller was made by Hephaestus? Cause it wasn't now was it? It was a ruse. So what most people think might not be true. If they don't say he made the lasso it's anyone's guess who made it in the movie version. But guess what nobody cares. It's irrelevant like who made the gauntlet. It's just you asking for trouble. Diana is the Godkiller so the Godkiller was "created" by the union of Zeus and Hippolyta. That was pretty clear in the movie.
And Hippolyta said they received many gifts from the gods (heck, the entire island of Themyscira was created by Zeus himself) so it's pretty clear that Hephaestus forged the lasso and the bracelets just like he forged the other weapons for the gods.
As for who made the MacGuffin guantlets, that's not as important as why the gauntlet-maker made a right-hand gauntlet and a left-hand gauntlet when only 1 gauntlet is needed and the guantlets by themselves are useless without the Infinity Stones. What is the purpose of the 2nd gauntlet if it's useless without the Infinity Stones? Are there 2 power-hungry tyrants who want to rule the universe?
The sword was made by Hephaestus? The sword she wields in the movie? Was it? If not who did? And if yes how come ares can just make it vanish? You just assume but really don't know anything. Assume the gauntlet is made by Thanos himself like in the comics until proven differently and be done with it.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 26, 2017 17:04:28 GMT
Diana is the Godkiller so the Godkiller was "created" by the union of Zeus and Hippolyta. That was pretty clear in the movie.
And Hippolyta said they received many gifts from the gods (heck, the entire island of Themyscira was created by Zeus himself) so it's pretty clear that Hephaestus forged the lasso and the bracelets just like he forged the other weapons for the gods.
As for who made the MacGuffin guantlets, that's not as important as why the gauntlet-maker made a right-hand gauntlet and a left-hand gauntlet when only 1 gauntlet is needed and the guantlets by themselves are useless without the Infinity Stones. What is the purpose of the 2nd gauntlet if it's useless without the Infinity Stones? Are there 2 power-hungry tyrants who want to rule the universe?
The sword was made by Hephaestus? The sword she wields in the movie? Was it? If not who did? And if yes how come ares can just make it vanish? You just assume but really don't know anything. Assume the gauntlet is made by Thanos himself like in the comics until proven differently and be done with it. Did you not pay attention during the movie? Does it need to be spoon-fed to you? The sword was NOT the Godkiller. Diana is the Godkiller.
And no, it's not an assumption that Hephaestus forged the lasso and the bracelets. It's common knowledge that Hephaestus created weapons for the Olympian Gods just like it's common knowledge that Zeus is the King of the Gods, Ares is the God of War, Hades is the God of the Underworld, Poseidon is the God of the Sea, and Aphrodite is the Goddess of Love. Those things don't need to be explained or spoon-fed because it's common knowledge.
If Thanos made the gauntlets himself, why did Thanos make a right-hand gauntlet and a left-hand gauntlet when only 1 gauntlet is needed and the guantlets by themselves are useless without the Infinity Stones? What is the purpose of the 2nd gauntlet if it's useless without the Infinity Stones?
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Post by mcufan on Jul 26, 2017 17:12:13 GMT
The sword was made by Hephaestus? The sword she wields in the movie? Was it? If not who did? And if yes how come ares can just make it vanish? You just assume but really don't know anything. Assume the gauntlet is made by Thanos himself like in the comics until proven differently and be done with it. Did you not pay attention during the movie? Does it need to be spoon-fed to you? The sword was NOT the Godkiller. Diana is the Godkiller.
And no, it's not an assumption that Hephaestus forged the lasso and the bracelets. It's common knowledge that Hephaestus created weapons for the Olympian Gods just like it's common knowledge that Zeus is the King of the Gods, Ares is the God of War, Hades is the God of the Underworld, Poseidon is the God of the Sea, and Aphrodite is the Goddess of Love. Those things don't need to be explained or spoon-fed because it's common knowledge.
If Thanos made the gauntlets himself, why did Thanos make a right-hand gauntlet and a left-hand gauntlet when only 1 gauntlet is needed and the guantlets by themselves are useless without the Infinity Stones? What is the purpose of the 2nd gauntlet if it's useless without the Infinity Stones?
Common knowledge as in the real world? That's bullshit. They change a lot of stuff in the comics and movies. And I know Diana was the Godkiller, the sword was just a MacGuffin. As you are so desperate to know about mcguffins I want to know who made that sword. And the bracelets and the lasso and the shield. Hephaestus didn't made the sword did he make the other stuff or are just fakes as well? As for the gauntlets he made a lot of them before settling in a design he liked. If you are going to make stuff up I'll just do the same.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 26, 2017 17:25:45 GMT
Did you not pay attention during the movie? Does it need to be spoon-fed to you? The sword was NOT the Godkiller. Diana is the Godkiller.
And no, it's not an assumption that Hephaestus forged the lasso and the bracelets. It's common knowledge that Hephaestus created weapons for the Olympian Gods just like it's common knowledge that Zeus is the King of the Gods, Ares is the God of War, Hades is the God of the Underworld, Poseidon is the God of the Sea, and Aphrodite is the Goddess of Love. Those things don't need to be explained or spoon-fed because it's common knowledge.
If Thanos made the gauntlets himself, why did Thanos make a right-hand gauntlet and a left-hand gauntlet when only 1 gauntlet is needed and the guantlets by themselves are useless without the Infinity Stones? What is the purpose of the 2nd gauntlet if it's useless without the Infinity Stones?
Common knowledge as in the real world? That's bullshit. They change a lot of stuff in the comics and movies. And I know Diana was the Godkiller, the sword was just a MacGuffin. As you are so desperate to know about mcguffins I want to know who made that sword. And the bracelets and the lasso and the shield. Hephaestus didn't made the sword did he make the other stuff or are just fakes as well? As for the gauntlets he made a lot of them before settling in a design he liked. If you are going to make stuff up I'll just do the same. The sword is just a regular Amazonian sword. It wasn't the Godkiller or a MacGuffin. Hephaestus didn't make the sword because the sword wasn't the Godkiller. Hephaestus forged the lasso and the bracelets, which aren't fake because (unlike Peter's missing Spider-Sense in SMH) we saw the lasso and the bracelets in action in WW.
And if Thanos made the MacGuffin gauntlets, how did Odin get 1 of Thanos' guantlets? Are Odin and Thanos best buddies? Did Thanos give Odin a gauntlet for Christmas?
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 26, 2017 17:35:55 GMT
Common knowledge as in the real world? That's bullshit. They change a lot of stuff in the comics and movies. And I know Diana was the Godkiller, the sword was just a MacGuffin. As you are so desperate to know about mcguffins I want to know who made that sword. And the bracelets and the lasso and the shield. Hephaestus didn't made the sword did he make the other stuff or are just fakes as well? As for the gauntlets he made a lot of them before settling in a design he liked. If you are going to make stuff up I'll just do the same. The sword is just a regular Amazonian sword. It wasn't the Godkiller or a MacGuffin. Hephaestus didn't make the sword because the sword wasn't the Godkiller. Hephaestus forged the lasso and the bracelets, which aren't fake because (unlike Peter's missing Spider-Sense in SMH) we saw the lasso and the bracelets in action in WW.
And if Thanos made the MacGuffin gauntlets, how did Odin get 1 of Thanos' guantlets? Are Odin and Thanos best buddies? Did Thanos give Odin a gauntlet for Christmas?
You ever think maybe Odin created his own glove?!? It would make sense too to have a contingency plan to battle Thanos and anyone else who threaten to use the gauntlet to rule the universe.
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Post by mcufan on Jul 26, 2017 17:59:59 GMT
Common knowledge as in the real world? That's bullshit. They change a lot of stuff in the comics and movies. And I know Diana was the Godkiller, the sword was just a MacGuffin. As you are so desperate to know about mcguffins I want to know who made that sword. And the bracelets and the lasso and the shield. Hephaestus didn't made the sword did he make the other stuff or are just fakes as well? As for the gauntlets he made a lot of them before settling in a design he liked. If you are going to make stuff up I'll just do the same. The sword is just a regular Amazonian sword. It wasn't the Godkiller or a MacGuffin. Hephaestus didn't make the sword because the sword wasn't the Godkiller. Hephaestus forged the lasso and the bracelets, which aren't fake because (unlike Peter's missing Spider-Sense in SMH) we saw the lasso and the bracelets in action in WW.
And if Thanos made the MacGuffin gauntlets, how did Odin get 1 of Thanos' guantlets? Are Odin and Thanos best buddies? Did Thanos give Odin a gauntlet for Christmas?
he didn't make the sword? It's just an Amazonian sword? Did they say that in the movie? Why that particular Amazonian sword? Is there a real god sword that it's mimicking? What about the one she uses against Doomsday? Is it an Amazonian sword also or maybe a real one made by the gods explained in WW2? Was it in this movie how she got it? Because it wasn't in doj. Isn't it weird that Hephaestus made a lot of weapons but not a sword? Wouldn't it be the first thing he would do? Here have some weapons except you know a freaking sword. Is Hephaestus stupid or what? As for the gauntlets Odin and Thanos had a fight before and he snatched the right one from him. I'm just going to use your method of taking answers out of the ass for questions that you clearly haven't got a clue how to answer.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 26, 2017 18:03:15 GMT
The sword is just a regular Amazonian sword. It wasn't the Godkiller or a MacGuffin. Hephaestus didn't make the sword because the sword wasn't the Godkiller. Hephaestus forged the lasso and the bracelets, which aren't fake because (unlike Peter's missing Spider-Sense in SMH) we saw the lasso and the bracelets in action in WW.
And if Thanos made the MacGuffin gauntlets, how did Odin get 1 of Thanos' guantlets? Are Odin and Thanos best buddies? Did Thanos give Odin a gauntlet for Christmas?
You ever think maybe Odin created his own glove?!? It would make sense too to have a contingency plan to battle Thanos and anyone else who threaten to use the gauntlet to rule the universe. My 1st question was if there are 2 gauntlets, does that mean Thanos needs both guantlets to rule the universe (because if Thanos had only 1 gauntlet, then whoever had the other gauntlet could just use that gauntlet to neutralize Thanos' gauntlet). An MCU fan said that the gauntlets were only used to hold the Infinity Stones and were useless by themselves without the Infinity Stones. So why would Odin create a gauntlet that's useless without the Infinity Stones? Or does Odin also want to obtain the Infinity Stones and rule the universe like Thanos wants to do?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 26, 2017 18:16:50 GMT
he didn't make the sword? It's just an Amazonian sword? Did they say that in the movie? Why that particular Amazonian sword? Is there a real god sword that it's mimicking? Did you not pay attention during the movie? Do you MCU fans really need everything spoon-fed to you. The sword wasn't the godkiller. The sword was just a regular Amazon sword. There is no Godkiller sword. Diana is the Godkiller. What about the one she uses against Doomsday? Is it an Amazonian sword also or maybe a real one made by the gods explained in WW2? Was it in this movie how she got it? WW takes place about a century before BvS so Diana didn't have the sword she used against Doomsday yet. Also, are you aware that swords were common weapons in ancient and medieval times so there have been thousands maybe millions of swords made throughout history. Diana works as an antiquities dealer for the Louve so it wouldn't be hard for her to find another sword like the 1 she used against Doomsday. Isn't it weird that Hephaestus made a lot of weapons but not a sword? Wouldn't it be the first thing he would do? Here have some weapons except you know a freaking sword. Is Hephaestus stupid or what? Hephaestus made many weapons including swords, but he didn't make that sword. That sword was wasn't the Godkiller. Diana is the Godkiller. As for the gauntlets Odin and Thanos had a fight before and he snatched the right one from him.[/quote] Why would Odin steal just 1 gauntlet and not both gauntlets if the gauntlets by themselves are useless without the Infinity Stones and if Thanos had a 2nd gauntlet?
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 26, 2017 18:17:17 GMT
You ever think maybe Odin created his own glove?!? It would make sense too to have a contingency plan to battle Thanos and anyone else who threaten to use the gauntlet to rule the universe. My 1st question was if there are 2 gauntlets, does that mean Thanos needs both guantlets to rule the universe (because if Thanos had only 1 gauntlet, then whoever had the other gauntlet could just use that gauntlet to neutralize Thanos' gauntlet). An MCU fan said that the gauntlets were only used to hold the Infinity Stones and were useless by themselves without the Infinity Stones. So why would Odin create a gauntlet that's useless without the Infinity Stones? Or does Odin also want to obtain the Infinity Stones and rule the universe like Thanos wants to do? And you don't think that'll all be answered in Infinity War?!?!
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Post by zoilus on Jul 26, 2017 18:27:09 GMT
What is the purpose of the 2nd gauntlet if it's useless without the Infinity Stones? Are there 2 power-hungry tyrants who want to rule the universe? I already answered these questions, idiot.
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Post by Larcen26 on Jul 26, 2017 18:41:09 GMT
I don't know anything about that macguffin Infinity Gauntlet, but 1 MCU fan on this message board said that the gauntlet in Odin's vault is right-handed and the gauntlet Thanos had in AoU is left-handed. So Thanos would need both guantlets to rule the universe, correct? The gauntlets are "meaingless" It's the stones that are needed.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 26, 2017 18:44:44 GMT
I don't know anything about that macguffin Infinity Gauntlet, but 1 MCU fan on this message board said that the gauntlet in Odin's vault is right-handed and the gauntlet Thanos had in AoU is left-handed. So Thanos would need both guantlets to rule the universe, correct? The gauntlets are "meaingless" It's the stones that are needed. That's what I've been told. The gauntlets are "meaningless" without the Infinity Stones. So why did the gauntlet-maker make a right-hand gauntlet and a left-hand gauntlet if the gauntlets are "meaningless" without the Infinity Stones and only 1 gauntlet is needed? What is the purpose of the 2nd MacGuffin gauntlet if it's "meaningless" without the Infinity Stones?
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Post by zoilus on Jul 26, 2017 18:45:33 GMT
The gauntlets are "meaingless" It's the stones that are needed. That's what I've been told. The gauntlets are "meaningless" without the Infinity Stones. So why did the gauntlet-maker make a right-hand gauntlet and a left-hand gauntlet if the gauntlets are "meaningless" without the Infinity Stones and only 1 gauntlet is needed? What is the purpose of the 2nd MacGuffin gauntlet if it's "meaningless" without the Infinity Stones? Why are you repeatedly asking questions that have already been answered?
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Post by Larcen26 on Jul 26, 2017 18:48:43 GMT
The gauntlets are "meaingless" It's the stones that are needed. That's what I've been told. The gauntlets are "meaningless" without the Infinity Stones. So why did the gauntlet-maker make a right-hand gauntlet and a left-hand gauntlet if the gauntlets are "meaningless" without the Infinity Stones and only 1 gauntlet is needed? What is the purpose of the 2nd MacGuffin gauntlet if it's "meaningless" without the Infinity Stones? .... Umm.... Because they are gauntlets? The stones are the MacGuffin...the gauntlet holds them. Ronan's Hammer wasn't the MacGuffin of Guardians.
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Post by mcufan on Jul 26, 2017 19:16:21 GMT
he didn't make the sword? It's just an Amazonian sword? Did they say that in the movie? Why that particular Amazonian sword? Is there a real god sword that it's mimicking? Did you not pay attention during the movie? Do you MCU fans really need everything spoon-fed to you. The sword wasn't the godkiller. The sword was just a regular Amazon sword. There is no Godkiller sword. Diana is the Godkiller. What about the one she uses against Doomsday? Is it an Amazonian sword also or maybe a real one made by the gods explained in WW2? Was it in this movie how she got it? WW takes place about a century before BvS so Diana didn't have the sword she used against Doomsday yet. Also, are you aware that swords were common weapons in ancient and medieval times so there have been thousands maybe millions of swords made throughout history. Diana works as an antiquities dealer for the Louve so it wouldn't be hard for her to find another sword like the 1 she used against Doomsday. Isn't it weird that Hephaestus made a lot of weapons but not a sword? Wouldn't it be the first thing he would do? Here have some weapons except you know a freaking sword. Is Hephaestus stupid or what? Hephaestus made many weapons including swords, but he didn't make that sword. That sword was wasn't the Godkiller. Diana is the Godkiller. As for the gauntlets Odin and Thanos had a fight before and he snatched the right one from him. Why would Odin steal just 1 gauntlet and not both gauntlets if the gauntlets by themselves are useless without the Infinity Stones and if Thanos had a 2nd gauntlet? [/quote] Again all your explanations are bullshit. Hephaestus made thousands of swords? Lol how do you know? Is it known? Loool bullshit! How do you know the one she uses in bvs is not special? Is it known loool We don't even know she is an antique dealer. You assume from what? So many answered questions. DCEU movies are full of holes. You are the one wanting an explanation for something that doesn't need one.
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