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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 27, 2017 0:31:28 GMT
I see what you mean, but Fury was "killed" and "resurrected" within the same movie. The trailers couldn't spoil anything unless they did it during the Winter Soldier trailer itself. And I don't know why they'd do that. It's funny you mention that because I don't watch more than the first trailer, but later trailers for that film did have additional lines for Fury in it, that he hadn't said by the time he "died" in the film. Now that's not necessarily a giveaway because as we all know trailers often have scenes that aren't in the film, but some people were suspicious. And THAT, is exactly why I don't watch the second and third trailers. Honestly I don't know why anybody does. They spoil way too much for my liking. Ah, I forgot you did that. That's right, you're the one that has me doing it myself. I haven't watched the new JL or Thor trailer. I gotta say you must have some real discipline to be doing it this long. It's killing me man.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 27, 2017 0:57:00 GMT
Ah, I forgot you did that. That's right, you're the one that has me doing it myself. I haven't watched the new JL or Thor trailer. I gotta say you must have some real discipline to be doing it this long. It's killing me man. I admit, I really want to watch them, but then I always remember how much better it is to walk into the theater without knowing too much.
I'm glad you're giving it a shot. I guarantee you'll like Thor, Panther, and Infinity more because of it.
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Post by chatterer on Jul 27, 2017 5:36:11 GMT
Well I know why they did it, so you don't need to explain that it's because she's popular, that's obvious. It's just funny that none of their other characters are an equal draw, mostly because they either haven't established them or they haven't worked. I think it's more amusing that MCU has to put Iron Man in the beginning, middle, and end of a movie that's supposed to be about their flagship character, Spider-Man. And the move still flopped, dropping 63% in its 2nd weekend and dropping another 50% in its 3rd weekend. LOL!!! Spiderman HC dropped more than Antman. It's not only amusing but embarrassing.
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Post by dnno1 on Jul 27, 2017 17:00:10 GMT
Just like the Marvel execs leverage RDJ and Iron Man in 3 out of their last 6 MCU films. It's nothing new. Who said they didn't? They also heavily market their other characters as well. It was just funny to see how quickly they latched on because most of their other stuff isn't working so well. I mean even Affleck is leaving again right, so they don't have a solid foundation and what they had was already on shaky ground. I certainly didn't say that. What I said was that it was nothing new. They all do that. It's just marketing. If something is popular (like Wonder Woman is now or Batman) you exploit that popularity, just like Marvel does with RDJ and Iron Man.
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Post by dnno1 on Jul 27, 2017 17:01:54 GMT
The last SDCC trailer (2016) led with Bruce Wayne and featured Aquaman, Cyborg, and Flash if you can remember. Why not feature Wonder Woman next? It's a given that they are saving Superman for last. I figured they were saving Superman for last because he's been so hard to sell. No, they are saving Superman for last because he is supposedly dead and they don't want to reveal how he will resurrect and return (if he does at all). That's going to be the surprise.
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Post by dnno1 on Jul 27, 2017 17:11:19 GMT
I thought it's because he's "dead" lol, as if anybody bought that for a second. One of the primary reasons it was a terrible writing choice is that it was instantly the worst kept secret of all time. So films like "The Passion of the Christ", "The Greatest Story Ever Told", or "The Last Temptation of Christ" had bad writing because the outcome was so predictable, right (take note that all three of those films were nominated for Oscars before you answer that)? I think not. Great storytelling is not measured by its predictability. They are judged by their emotion, realism, simplicity, and sincerity in the storytelling.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 27, 2017 18:44:24 GMT
Who said they didn't? They also heavily market their other characters as well. It was just funny to see how quickly they latched on because most of their other stuff isn't working so well. I mean even Affleck is leaving again right, so they don't have a solid foundation and what they had was already on shaky ground. I certainly didn't say that. What I said was that it was nothing new. They all do that. It's just marketing. If something is popular (like Wonder Woman is now or Batman) you exploit that popularity, just like Marvel does with RDJ and Iron Man. No this was particularly obvious. Usually when people do what you're suggesting they haven't failed repeatedly and still kept going, but this was a big red flag that they know only WW has worked .
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 27, 2017 18:46:03 GMT
I figured they were saving Superman for last because he's been so hard to sell. No, they are saving Superman for last because he is supposedly dead and they don't want to reveal how he will resurrect and return (if he does at all). That's going to be the surprise. Except it's not a surprise. That's the point. It's not a surprise. That's why it's one of the most wasted plot developments ever. They clearly should have waited to kill him until Justice League. And then it would have actually been a surprise if they ever brought him back.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 27, 2017 18:47:23 GMT
lol, as if anybody bought that for a second. One of the primary reasons it was a terrible writing choice is that it was instantly the worst kept secret of all time. So films like "The Passion of the Christ", "The Greatest Story Ever Told", or "The Last Temptation of Christ" had bad writing because the outcome was so predictable, right (take note that all three of those films were nominated for Oscars before you answer that)? I think not. Great storytelling is not measured by its predictability. They are judged by their emotion, realism, simplicity, and sincerity in the storytelling. As far as I know BVS wasn't an historical account that had a preset ending. They just chose to kill him right?
But I'm glad you brought up emotion as a criteria because there scene didn't have any for the very reason that it was so wasted.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 30, 2017 0:37:50 GMT
So films like "The Passion of the Christ", "The Greatest Story Ever Told", or "The Last Temptation of Christ" had bad writing because the outcome was so predictable, right (take note that all three of those films were nominated for Oscars before you answer that)? I think not. Great storytelling is not measured by its predictability. They are judged by their emotion, realism, simplicity, and sincerity in the storytelling. As far as I know BVS wasn't an historical account that had a preset ending. They just chose to kill him right?
But I'm glad you brought up emotion as a criteria because there scene didn't have any for the very reason that it was so wasted.
Keep trollin', trollin', trollin', keep trollin', trollin' trollin'...
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