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Post by skribb on Jul 26, 2017 18:20:52 GMT
I thought we could talk about all the things that we worry about in Infinity War, just to be able to minimize the disappointment one could potentially experience when finally seeing the movie in theaters.
Too many characters
IW will feature many characters. I worry that this could mean that characters appear and disappear inorganically in the film, or that the movie becomes strangely "segmented" to be able to include certain characters. I personally want to see ALL the heroes on screen at the same time, in a big skirmish against Thanos and the Black Order. I would welcome the Defenders to be included as well, but they should be relegated to handle "easy targets" who wouldn't wipe the floor with them in 3 seconds (which any cosmic entity obviously can).
Accents all over the place
Lookin' at you, Cumberbatch.
Not enough running time
IW will be around 2h 30min, but what if it's still not enough?
Bad CGI
Disappointing visuals, especially if Thanos and his minions look bad. There could also be so much CGI going on that no character on screen is real at certain moments, making it look like a video game cutscene.
Misuse of villains
fans of the Black Order might worry that they don't look or act cool enough or are source-accurate enough. I don't read comics so I've never heard about them, but they seem like characters that should be honored as much as Hela's portrayal in Ragnarok (I never thought they would do the headdress)
Forced kiddie humor
Studio execs might want to "increase ticket sales" by shoe-horning in some GOTG2 or Ultron style jokes.
Misrepresentation of Spider-Man
Since Spidey will be wearing the Iron Spider suit, I worry that he will rely too much on Stark tech and not be enough Spidey. Luckily he is said to exhibit spidey sense in the IW trailer, but you never know. Here's hoping!
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Post by _ on Jul 26, 2017 18:32:18 GMT
Oh, I'm sure it will be fine.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 26, 2017 19:47:12 GMT
All of these combined in the sense that it might prove too unwieldy. Everything that is great about Avengers Assembles works especially well thanks to it having a pretty simple plot. Age of Ultron started to buckle (not enough to kill the movie as many claimed but it was noticeable). The Russos did very well with Civil War and them being attached as directors is encouraging, not merely the Marvel logo.
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Post by agentblue on Jul 26, 2017 20:05:15 GMT
I mostly worried that even tho it is unlikely Thanos wont be a good villain, its marvels major problem.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 27, 2017 3:34:41 GMT
It's almost guaranteed to underperform at the box office.
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Post by mcufan on Jul 27, 2017 10:13:10 GMT
It's almost guaranteed to underperform at the box office. It depends on the expectation. What does underperform mean to you? |
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Post by charzhino on Jul 27, 2017 11:14:27 GMT
Omelette jokes and childish slapstick humour.
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Post by mcufan on Jul 27, 2017 21:46:22 GMT
I thought we could talk about all the things that we worry about in Infinity War, just to be able to minimize the disappointment one could potentially experience when finally seeing the movie in theaters. Too many charactersIW will feature many characters. I worry that this could mean that characters appear and disappear inorganically in the film, or that the movie becomes strangely "segmented" to be able to include certain characters. I personally want to see ALL the heroes on screen at the same time, in a big skirmish against Thanos and the Black Order. I would welcome the Defenders to be included as well, but they should be relegated to handle "easy targets" who wouldn't wipe the floor with them in 3 seconds (which any cosmic entity obviously can). Accents all over the placeLookin' at you, Cumberbatch. Not enough running timeIW will be around 2h 30min, but what if it's still not enough? Bad CGIDisappointing visuals, especially if Thanos and his minions look bad. There could also be so much CGI going on that no character on screen is real at certain moments, making it look like a video game cutscene. Misuse of villainsfans of the Black Order might worry that they don't look or act cool enough or are source-accurate enough. I don't read comics so I've never heard about them, but they seem like characters that should be honored as much as Hela's portrayal in Ragnarok (I never thought they would do the headdress) Forced kiddie humorStudio execs might want to "increase ticket sales" by shoe-horning in some GOTG2 or Ultron style jokes. Misrepresentation of Spider-ManSince Spidey will be wearing the Iron Spider suit, I worry that he will rely too much on Stark tech and not be enough Spidey. Luckily he is said to exhibit spidey sense in the IW trailer, but you never know. Here's hoping! None. Trust Marvel. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 21:49:57 GMT
The fact its just one movie now. And that's about it.
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Post by mcufan on Jul 27, 2017 22:01:02 GMT
The fact its just one movie now. And that's about it. You mean not being part one and part two? I'm pretty sure avengers 4 will be a direct sequel to iw. At least i hope so. You think they are going in a different direction? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 22:03:36 GMT
The fact its just one movie now. And that's about it. You mean not being part one and part two? I'm pretty sure avengers 4 will be a direct sequel to iw. At least i hope so. You think they are going in a different direction? I keep hearing conflicting reports about it, actually. Okay, it might just be one movie now. Might. That is a huge concern of mine. I don't like hearing them say "Its not Infinity Wars part two". |
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Post by mcufan on Jul 27, 2017 22:13:20 GMT
You mean not being part one and part two? I'm pretty sure avengers 4 will be a direct sequel to iw. At least i hope so. You think they are going in a different direction? I keep hearing conflicting reports about it, actually. Okay, it might just be one movie now. Might. That is a huge concern of mine. I don't like hearing them say "Its not Infinity Wars part two". I know what you mean. When first they announced it, I was like, what we are not getting a five hour all in avengers extravaganza? I really think they have something special for avengers 4 and that will be the continuation of the story. part 1 and part 2 final installments tend to be received badly like hunger games. This could be so they can distance themselves from that stigma. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 22:17:21 GMT
I keep hearing conflicting reports about it, actually. Okay, it might just be one movie now. Might. That is a huge concern of mine. I don't like hearing them say "Its not Infinity Wars part two". I know what you mean. When first they announced it, I was like, what we are not getting a five hour all in avengers extravaganza? I really think they have something special for avengers 4 and that will be the continuation of the story. part 1 and part 2 final installments tend to be received badly like hunger games. This could be so they can distance themselves from that stigma. Well, they don't have to call it "part 1" and "2", but they've been downright needlessly unclear about it. A big story like Infinity Wars requires more than a two/two-and-a-half hour film to do right. |
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Post by mcufan on Jul 27, 2017 22:23:14 GMT
I know what you mean. When first they announced it, I was like, what we are not getting a five hour all in avengers extravaganza? I really think they have something special for avengers 4 and that will be the continuation of the story. part 1 and part 2 final installments tend to be received badly like hunger games. This could be so they can distance themselves from that stigma. Well, they don't have to call it "part 1" and "2", but they've been downright needlessly unclear about it. A big story like Infinity Wars requires more than a two/two-and-a-half hour film to do right. I agree. two and a half hours is simply not enough. I do think they are going to avoid the blalant cliffhanger though. how i have no idea. Or the most obvious, but still awesome Thanos wields the complete gauntlet in the final shot. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 22:26:26 GMT
Well, they don't have to call it "part 1" and "2", but they've been downright needlessly unclear about it. A big story like Infinity Wars requires more than a two/two-and-a-half hour film to do right. I agree. two and a half hours is simply not enough. I do think they are going to avoid the blalant cliffhanger though. how i have no idea. Or the most obvious, but still awesome Thanos wields the complete gauntlet in the final shot. Do it the same way Lord of the Rings did. Just find a good place to end Act 1, and... end Act 1. I think having Thanos wielding the completed gauntlet as the parting shot would be the best way to do it. If nothing else, Vision would have just been killed moments before, so it'd end the whole thing with a sense of "Oh crap..." |
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Post by mcufan on Jul 27, 2017 22:31:48 GMT
I agree. two and a half hours is simply not enough. I do think they are going to avoid the blalant cliffhanger though. how i have no idea. Or the most obvious, but still awesome Thanos wields the complete gauntlet in the final shot. Do it the same way Lord of the Rings did. Just find a good place to end Act 1, and... end Act 1. I think having Thanos wielding the completed gauntlet as the parting shot would be the best way to do it. If nothing else, Vision would have just been killed moments before, so it'd end the whole thing with a sense of "Oh crap..." I'm divided. I want that but at the same time i want to be actually shocked. You know what i mean? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 22:34:35 GMT
Do it the same way Lord of the Rings did. Just find a good place to end Act 1, and... end Act 1. I think having Thanos wielding the completed gauntlet as the parting shot would be the best way to do it. If nothing else, Vision would have just been killed moments before, so it'd end the whole thing with a sense of "Oh crap..." I'm divided. I want that but at the same time i want to be actually shocked. You know what i mean? Yeah, I do. Here's hoping. I'm trying not to get too hyped, because I don't want to put such high standards on it that it could never live up to them. |
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Post by mcufan on Jul 27, 2017 22:40:27 GMT
I'm divided. I want that but at the same time i want to be actually shocked. You know what i mean? Yeah, I do. Here's hoping. I'm trying not to get too hyped, because I don't want to put such high standards on it that it could never live up to them. The talk was great but it's getting late here. Nice to have a decent conversation with someone around here without being massacred with nonsense. See you later. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 22:45:46 GMT
Yeah, I do. Here's hoping. I'm trying not to get too hyped, because I don't want to put such high standards on it that it could never live up to them. The talk was great but it's getting late here. Nice to have a decent conversation with someone around here without being massacred with nonsense. See you later. See you later, too. Goodnight. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 27, 2017 23:29:33 GMT
It's almost guaranteed to underperform at the box office. It depends on the expectation. What does underperform mean to you? It should be the highest-grossing MCU movie of all-time, including inflation adjustment. Anything less and the whole thing was a waste of time and a proven failure. |
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