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Post by SciFive on Feb 26, 2017 22:50:21 GMT
Not just short stories, but short novels. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 0:45:23 GMT
Just finished Jack Vance's 'The Dragon Masters' 137-pages. He managed a complete story in itself. Sometimes they might read like a short-story that has been stretched to novel lengths and sometimes there is too much plot development that it seems hurried and cut-off at the end.
Has to be well-balanced, some author's are masters at this, some completely fail.
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Post by SciFive on Feb 27, 2017 1:25:13 GMT
Just finished Jack Vance's 'The Dragon Masters' 137-pages. He managed a complete story in itself. Sometimes they might read like a short-story that has been stretched to novel lengths and sometimes there is too much plot development that it seems hurried and cut-off at the end. Has to be well-balanced, some author's are masters at this, some completely fail. I've heard that there's a real market for short fiction these days (something that's more than a short story but less than a full book) because some people want to be in and out of a complete story without going through hundreds of pages to get there. Thanks. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 2:09:11 GMT
I've heard that there's a real market for short fiction these days (something that's more than a short story but less than a full book) because some people want to be in and out of a complete story without going through hundreds of pages to get there. Thanks. For me it is just a matter of reading time, but sometimes the frustration factor is a problem,,,,if you really start to get into the book and ? wait,,,,don't.....end it  or sometimes come'on...already,,this book is more like a run-on sentence! |
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Post by SciFive on Feb 27, 2017 2:54:52 GMT
I've heard that there's a real market for short fiction these days (something that's more than a short story but less than a full book) because some people want to be in and out of a complete story without going through hundreds of pages to get there. Thanks. For me it is just a matter of reading time, but sometimes the frustration factor is a problem,,,,if you really start to get into the book and ? wait,,,,don't.....end it or sometimes come'on...already,,this book is more like a run-on sentence! Yeah, I know what you mean. |
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Post by detour on Mar 10, 2017 17:24:27 GMT
I'm a fan of short stories, especially sci-fi or horror anthologies. Also love the short stories of Stephen King.
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Post by cryptoflovecraft on Mar 12, 2017 13:22:20 GMT
Yes, I esp. love the works of Edgar Allan Poe, H.P. Lovecraft, Jack London and Ray Bradbury.
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Post by SciFive on Jun 28, 2017 3:30:08 GMT
I still like Short Fiction!!  |
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Post by poelzig on Jun 28, 2017 4:25:37 GMT
Loren D. Estleman is a master of the short novel. He has several long running series and even covers a variety of genres. Any fiction fan should check him out immediately and literally.
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Post by SciFive on Jun 28, 2017 4:27:09 GMT
Loren D. Estleman is a master of the short novel. He has several long running series and even covers a variety of genres. Any fiction fan should check him out immediately and literally. Thanks - I'll check him out!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 8:18:55 GMT
Short stories and short novels, definitely. I'm more of a fan now than I used to be. Fantasy almost by definition means long series, dragged out stories. And I just can't motivate myself anymore to read those. Just give me a good story, a good idea, that's all I'm looking for now, and I tend to find those more in short stories.
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Post by SciFive on Jun 28, 2017 10:12:07 GMT
Short stories and short novels, definitely. I'm more of a fan now than I used to be. Fantasy almost by definition means long series, dragged out stories. And I just can't motivate myself anymore to read those. Just give me a good story, a good idea, that's all I'm looking for now, and I tend to find those more in short stories. There's a whole range of short fiction - short novel, novella, novelette, and short story. My stories are usually between 10,000 and 15,000 words, which is generally called a novelette. The entire proper structure of a story can be found in all of these, except possibly in a very small short story. The difference in short fiction is that the character depth has got to be limited to a small number of people rather than having extensive side stories with the kinds of extra characters you might have in a novel. My stories usually wrap around one primary person with two or three other people that are somewhat developed as part of the primary story. I write Sci-Fi stories, but not ones with space aliens... I have no trouble at all coming up with ideas for stories because of this, but I try to pace myself. After I've published a book on Amazon, I give myself a mental vacation for awhile to clear my head. I just published one in May 2017. So I'm resting.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 10:27:53 GMT
Nice! How many books do you have at Amazon? I'm not at that point yet, only managed to get some short stories (under 11.000) published. I'm not sure if I'll ever get a full novel, it's also not something that I am aiming for anymore. Just write the ideas I have, no matter the length, get some mileage under my belt, improve my writing. I tend to focus more on the human aspect of SF, as I'm in no way a scientist I've always loved reading SF though, so I'm writing it too. I can imagine that having a scientific background/education/job can only be helpful. Definitely with indeed thinking up new technology, which is still an important part of SF. Asimov was quite the scientist himself. |
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Post by SciFive on Jun 28, 2017 10:36:31 GMT
Nice! How many books do you have at Amazon? I'm not at that point yet, only managed to get some short stories (under 11.000) published. I'm not sure if I'll ever get a full novel, it's also not something that I am aiming for anymore. Just write the ideas I have, no matter the length, get some mileage under my belt, improve my writing. I tend to focus more on the human aspect of SF, as I'm in no way a scientist I've always loved reading SF though, so I'm writing it too. I can imagine that having a scientific background/education/job can only be helpful. Definitely with indeed thinking up new technology, which is still an important part of SF. Asimov was quite the scientist himself. I publish on Amazon myself (at my leisure) and I have three books up so far. I wrote short stories in college and I won an award for them, but I've been puttering around ever since. It's only been in the last couple of years that I decided to push myself to start publishing my stories (since I was already doing it for other people on Amazon). Once I was very familiar with the publishing process on Amazon, I decided that there was no excuse not to publish my own. If you are writing but not sure that you can go the distance of a full novel, I'd really recommend trying short fiction. Even a small novel, novella or novelette is a reasonable goal for someone with a good story idea. In my experience out of college, short stories seem a bit too short for me - but I love novellas and novelettes. You can really wrap yourself around a novelette in a reasonable amount of time. I'd recommend reading craft books, though. As many as you can handle. I read them all the time and my writing has really matured a lot since going through so many writing craft books. I like the ones by James Scott Bell, but I've got other ones, too. James Scott Bell's writing craft books have helped me the most (especially with the structure of a story - he has an incredible explanation about this). Good luck!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 13:01:17 GMT
Nice! How many books do you have at Amazon? I'm not at that point yet, only managed to get some short stories (under 11.000) published. I'm not sure if I'll ever get a full novel, it's also not something that I am aiming for anymore. Just write the ideas I have, no matter the length, get some mileage under my belt, improve my writing. I tend to focus more on the human aspect of SF, as I'm in no way a scientist I've always loved reading SF though, so I'm writing it too. I can imagine that having a scientific background/education/job can only be helpful. Definitely with indeed thinking up new technology, which is still an important part of SF. Asimov was quite the scientist himself. I publish on Amazon myself (at my leisure) and I have three books up so far. I wrote short stories in college and I won an award for them, but I've been puttering around ever since. It's only been in the last couple of years that I decided to push myself to start publishing my stories (since I was already doing it for other people on Amazon). Once I was very familiar with the publishing process on Amazon, I decided that there was no excuse not to publish my own. If you are writing but not sure that you can go the distance of a full novel, I'd really recommend trying short fiction. Even a small novel, novella or novelette is a reasonable goal for someone with a good story idea. In my experience out of college, short stories seem a bit too short for me - but I love novellas and novelettes. You can really wrap yourself around a novelette in a reasonable amount of time. I'd recommend reading craft books, though. As many as you can handle. I read them all the time and my writing has really matured a lot since going through so many writing craft books. I like the ones by James Scott Bell, but I've got other ones, too. James Scott Bell's writing craft books have helped me the most (especially with the structure of a story - he has an incredible explanation about this). Good luck!!
I've tried full novels, but I can't seem to finish it. I lack experience, so I am indeed focussing on short stories at the moment, and I like it. The shorter the better, imo.
I've read a fair amount of books on writing so far. I really enjoyed reading Jeff Vanermeer's "Wonderbook", very visual. I'll give James Scott Bell a try, thanks for the tip!
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Post by SciFive on Aug 1, 2017 23:17:11 GMT
I'm still writing Short Fiction as well as reading it!!
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Jun 25, 2018 10:12:51 GMT
Yes
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Post by All Eyez on Shays on Aug 16, 2018 20:53:56 GMT
Not just short stories, but short novels.  |
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Post by SciFive on Aug 16, 2018 20:59:02 GMT
Not just short stories, but short novels. How did you find this topic, Shays? |
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Post by All Eyez on Shays on Aug 16, 2018 21:46:07 GMT
How did you find this topic, Shays? Trump's Space Force is definitely a thing a fiction. Just like Mexico paying for the wall.... |
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or sometimes come'on...already,,this book is more like a run-on sentence! 
