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Post by vernuf on Jul 31, 2017 5:23:26 GMT
I'm totally convinced that you have a degree in advanced a-holery. Well, since you have a doctorate in it, you would know.
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Post by scienceisgod on Jul 31, 2017 10:01:50 GMT
I don't really know if NASA or our governments are covering up the truth about Extraterrestrials and UFOs or not... But I know this, if they are... It is because... 1.) Religions have taught our society to believe 100% that humans were created in GOD's image and that we're are his only creations... 2.) We don't have the means to stop them from coming here and POSSIBLY destroying us. The instant that Extraterrestrials and UFOs are revealed to exist, Our society will collapse, with fear, rioting, and self destruction. As a planet, we are not ready to know the truth. I don't know if we will ever be. Unfortunately, It seems as though they are Extraterrestrials and UFOs visiting us, and it seem very likely that their existence will be revealed in the very near future... To be honest, if Extraterrestrials and UFOs have been visiting us for centuries... I don't think we have to fear them... after all, if they were going to destroy us, they would have done it already. What I am worried about, is how humans will react... Will we be the ones to destroy ourselves? Perhaps "Star Trek" won't be in our future. Mexico is much more religious than America and openly acknowledges aliens. I think it's the atheists who tend to be "skeptic" and materialist about the issue.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 11:03:21 GMT
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jul 31, 2017 17:12:17 GMT
It wouldn't be just "NASA". There are around 90+ agencies, government and otherwise, that have access to the major 'scopes. I imagine the conspiracy sells better (gets more clicks, drives more revenue for sites that push this stuff) if it's a more palatable number, though.
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Post by scienceisgod on Jul 31, 2017 21:23:49 GMT
It wouldn't be just "NASA". There are around 90+ agencies, government and otherwise, that have access to the major 'scopes. I imagine the conspiracy sells better (gets more clicks, drives more revenue for sites that push this stuff) if it's a more palatable number, though. The idea that government spied on us was a conspiracy theory until Edward Snowden. How many thousands of "agencies government and otherwise" were involved in that? Private companies with private employees with private interests had access to this stuff for decades and no one leaked. No one at 17+ intelligence agencies EVER leaked that Iraq didn't really have weapons of mass destruction either. You think major scopes wouldn't be censored on the grounds of national security? They'd classify whether you take cream in your coffee. I heard they got a whole division dedicated to airbrushing UFOs out of photographs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 23:12:05 GMT
It wouldn't be just "NASA". There are around 90+ agencies, government and otherwise, that have access to the major 'scopes. I imagine the conspiracy sells better (gets more clicks, drives more revenue for sites that push this stuff) if it's a more palatable number, though. The idea that government spied on us was a conspiracy theory until Edward Snowden. How many thousands of "agencies government and otherwise" were involved in that? Private companies with private employees with private interests had access to this stuff for decades and no one leaked. No one at 17+ intelligence agencies EVER leaked that Iraq didn't really have weapons of mass destruction either. You think major scopes wouldn't be censored on the grounds of national security? They'd classify whether you take cream in your coffee. I heard they got a whole division dedicated to airbrushing UFOs out of photographs. It's worse than that! There are literally tens of MILLIONS of telescopes in the world, the vast majority of them completely outside of government or even industry control. Every single one of those people has to be in on it! Carefully doctoring all of their images to remove all the aliens - the sky is swarming with them, man! Have you bought a telescope? Don't! If you do, then you will be in on it too! Whether you want to be or not! That's how it works!
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 1, 2017 15:55:09 GMT
It wouldn't be just "NASA". There are around 90+ agencies, government and otherwise, that have access to the major 'scopes. I imagine the conspiracy sells better (gets more clicks, drives more revenue for sites that push this stuff) if it's a more palatable number, though. The idea that government spied on us was a conspiracy theory until Edward Snowden. Whut? We have instances of the US gov. doing all sorts of hinky crap going back WAY before that. There's hardly anything exceptional in a government machine managing hidden surveillance. A loose-knit cabal of multinational pub. and private telescope enthusiasts hiding a heavenly body, though! I wonder if there's a astronomic hit-team of some sort silencing the outliers?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 1, 2017 16:11:23 GMT
The idea that government spied on us was a conspiracy theory until Edward Snowden. Whut? We have instances of the US gov. doing all sorts of hinky crap going back WAY before that. There's hardly anything exceptional in a government machine managing hidden surveillance. A loose-knit cabal of multinational pub. and private telescope enthusiasts hiding a heavenly body, though! I wonder if there's a astronomic hit-team of some sort silencing the outliers? Awwwwww, laughing boy is amused.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 1, 2017 16:25:39 GMT
Great counterpoint man! So how do you fit all those independent entities and millions of high powered scopes into the equation? I'm certain there's something to cover it.
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Post by progressiveelement on Aug 1, 2017 16:42:54 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 1, 2017 16:43:30 GMT
Great counterpoint man! So how do you fit all those independent entities and millions of high powered scopes into the equation? I'm certain there's something to cover it. I haven't priced an IR telescope yet, but I have a hunch that they're a little out of my range. Maybe you can afford it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_telescope
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Post by progressiveelement on Aug 1, 2017 16:57:59 GMT
I don't really know if NASA or our governments are covering up the truth about Extraterrestrials and UFOs or not... But I know this, if they are... It is because... 1.) Religions have taught our society to believe 100% that humans were created in GOD's image and that we're are his only creations... 2.) We don't have the means to stop them from coming here and POSSIBLY destroying us. The instant that Extraterrestrials and UFOs are revealed to exist, Our society will collapse, with fear, rioting, and self destruction. As a planet, we are not ready to know the truth. I don't know if we will ever be. Unfortunately, It seems as though they are Extraterrestrials and UFOs visiting us, and it seem very likely that their existence will be revealed in the very near future... To be honest, if Extraterrestrials and UFOs have been visiting us for centuries... I don't think we have to fear them... after all, if they were going to destroy us, they would have done it already. What I am worried about, is how humans will react... Will we be the ones to destroy ourselves? Perhaps "Star Trek" won't be in our future. Mexico is much more religious than America and openly acknowledges aliens. I think it's the atheists who tend to be "skeptic" and materialist about the issue. Atheists are less likely to think they're demons. 😀
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 1, 2017 17:03:19 GMT
Mexico is much more religious than America and openly acknowledges aliens. I think it's the atheists who tend to be "skeptic" and materialist about the issue. Atheists are less likely to think they're demons. 😀 So, if they are demons, then "aliens" was a deception that worked perfectly on the atheist mindset. Can't be demons because demons don't exist. Ergo, it must be aliens.
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Post by progressiveelement on Aug 1, 2017 17:32:11 GMT
Atheists are less likely to think they're demons. 😀 So, if they are demons, then "aliens" was a deception that worked perfectly on the atheist mindset. Can't be demons because demons don't exist. Ergo, it must be aliens. 👍
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 1, 2017 17:42:29 GMT
Why would you need to? If the objects are close enough to be "illuminated" by a solar flare, then they have albedo and can be seen by any number of measurements. Mercury itself has little albedo yet can be seen easily using earth-bound scopes. Even when its orbit crosses our side of the sun!
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Aug 1, 2017 17:45:22 GMT
Why would you need to? If the objects are close enough to be "illuminated" by a solar flare, then they have albedo and can be seen by any number of measurements. Mercury itself has little albedo yet can be seen easily using earth-bound scopes. Even when its orbit crosses our side of the sun! Remember when Erjen had to be told that Venus can be seen with the unaided eye during the middle of the day as long as it's at the right angle with respect to the sun and he didn't believe it even after a link with actual photos because...gangster science. Yet Nibiru can be seen at the same angle and mofos be tryin' to hide that shit, yo!
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Post by progressiveelement on Aug 1, 2017 17:45:47 GMT
It wouldn't be just "NASA". There are around 90+ agencies, government and otherwise, that have access to the major 'scopes. I imagine the conspiracy sells better (gets more clicks, drives more revenue for sites that push this stuff) if it's a more palatable number, though. The idea that government spied on us was a conspiracy theory until Edward Snowden. How many thousands of "agencies government and otherwise" were involved in that? Private companies with private employees with private interests had access to this stuff for decades and no one leaked. No one at 17+ intelligence agencies EVER leaked that Iraq didn't really have weapons of mass destruction either. You think major scopes wouldn't be censored on the grounds of national security? They'd classify whether you take cream in your coffee. I heard they got a whole division dedicated to airbrushing UFOs out of photographs. Spying on da peoples went on before anyone today existed.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 1, 2017 17:46:14 GMT
Atheists are less likely to think they're demons. 😀 So, if they are demons, then "aliens" was a deception that worked perfectly on the atheist mindset. Can't be demons because demons don't exist. Ergo, it must be aliens. So "aliens" is just there to throw atheists off the scent of those space demons! Man, that's tricky, modeling your verbiage solely to deceive around 7% of the world's population. Who knew we were that important? THE PLOT THICKENS!
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 1, 2017 17:48:12 GMT
Why would you need to? If the objects are close enough to be "illuminated" by a solar flare, then they have albedo and can be seen by any number of measurements. Mercury itself has little albedo yet can be seen easily using earth-bound scopes. Even when its orbit crosses our side of the sun! Remember when Erjen had to be told that Venus can be seen with the unaided eye during the middle of the day as long as it's at the right angle with respect to the sun and he didn't believe it even after a link with actual photos because...gangster science. Yet Nibiru can be seen at the same angle and mofos be tryin' to hide that shit, yo! I remember it well. "It's like a flashlight on the wall! You can't see it during the day!" "Here's a picture of Venus time-stamped around noon on---" "GANGSTERS!"
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 1, 2017 17:49:04 GMT
The idea that government spied on us was a conspiracy theory until Edward Snowden. How many thousands of "agencies government and otherwise" were involved in that? Private companies with private employees with private interests had access to this stuff for decades and no one leaked. No one at 17+ intelligence agencies EVER leaked that Iraq didn't really have weapons of mass destruction either. You think major scopes wouldn't be censored on the grounds of national security? They'd classify whether you take cream in your coffee. I heard they got a whole division dedicated to airbrushing UFOs out of photographs.Spying on da peoples went on before anyone today existed. And airbrushing is a lost art - spies use Photoshop now.
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