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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jul 31, 2017 21:04:02 GMT
Its very simple: Tristan is a mocker. He's proud and haughty; acting with boundless arrogance and idle boasts. He delights himself in scoffing and hates knowledge, as witnessed by how many times he's been corrected and refused to listen (kind of like DC-Fan). The man is so sure of his own high brow preferences that he fails to see he's actually not a man of taste. He is a fool who fancies himself a philosopher. There is no understanding his willful ignorance and insolent fury. Pay him no further heed. well put couldnt of put it better myself yes you could, furious. It is not that difficult as the fallaciousraptor was always unable to make a serious argument based on fact. I accepted his surrender long ago. Now take the raptor dick out of your mouth, and man up a little. Btw facts, you are wrong: Phantom Menace had more practical effects that TFA (look it up), e.g., all spaceships were models whereas every ship in TFA was CGI (and it shows). Also, Binks and Watto had better CGI than Snokeflake or Maz Butthole-Eyes (the orange Yoda) more that 15 years before(!). Let's not even beginn to discuss the degree of originality or creativity vis-a-vis a sorry effort like TFA. Before TFA I always though Phantom Menace was crap, then came TFA, says it all...
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Post by politicidal on Aug 1, 2017 4:14:43 GMT
Uh, the one that no one wanted to see.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 1, 2017 4:20:50 GMT
Uh, the one that no one wanted to see. ... Homecoming?
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Post by politicidal on Aug 1, 2017 4:21:49 GMT
Uh, the one that no one wanted to see. ... Homecoming? No Ghostbusters (2016). That was awful. Were you waiting to see it?
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Post by mcufan on Aug 1, 2017 13:53:30 GMT
Really? You're still harping on THAT line above all else? And you clearly haven't seen 'Ghostbusters: Answer the Call' if you think 'The Force Awakens' is more artistically bankrupt than that. Droid, please? Depends on who I talk to. With you "Got a boyfriend, cute boyfriend?" comes to mind. Like THAT better?
When comparing turds it is often difficult to firmly assess which one stinks worse: the Ghostbuster one admittedly reeks and is an abomination in form, consistency and substance, but it can be contained and ultimately forgotten. Stinky shit, but harmless.
Not so the TFA- , which manages to retroacticvely and proactively stink up an entire franchise.
And I am just talking degrees of stink here, what about writing theory? Eg that copied-yet-broken storyline? Starting out with the hunt for the map to find Luke (in an little droid), but then in the second half being suddenly interrupted by the unrelated storyline of DeathStar3 and its all-to-easy copycat-destruction? And then in the last minutes having the main map-plotline conveniently be resolved by an deus ex machina awakening (R2 meeting Marey Sue and having the map all along and nobody ever bothered to look in Lukes suspiciously abandoned droid...).
Fanfic amateurism thy name is The Farce Awakens!
I don't care about discussing Star wars here in MCU boards but: -kid gets chosen by old Jedi. -kid discovers the force -kid has adventures with friends he meets along the way -old Jedi dies -kid ultimately saves everyone by blowing up huge spaceship. The phantom menace is a rehash of a new hope also I have no quarrel in this fight, just pointing things up and watch the world burn.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 1, 2017 14:33:43 GMT
Droid, please? Depends on who I talk to. With you "Got a boyfriend, cute boyfriend?" comes to mind. Like THAT better?
When comparing turds it is often difficult to firmly assess which one stinks worse: the Ghostbuster one admittedly reeks and is an abomination in form, consistency and substance, but it can be contained and ultimately forgotten. Stinky shit, but harmless.
Not so the TFA- , which manages to retroacticvely and proactively stink up an entire franchise.
And I am just talking degrees of stink here, what about writing theory? Eg that copied-yet-broken storyline? Starting out with the hunt for the map to find Luke (in an little droid), but then in the second half being suddenly interrupted by the unrelated storyline of DeathStar3 and its all-to-easy copycat-destruction? And then in the last minutes having the main map-plotline conveniently be resolved by an deus ex machina awakening (R2 meeting Marey Sue and having the map all along and nobody ever bothered to look in Lukes suspiciously abandoned droid...).
Fanfic amateurism thy name is The Farce Awakens!
I don't care about discussing Star wars here in MCU boards but: -kid gets chosen by old Jedi. -kid discovers the force -kid has adventures with friends he meets along the way -old Jedi dies -kid ultimately saves everyone by blowing up huge spaceship. The phantom menace is a rehash of a new hope also I have no quarrel in this fight, just pointing things up and watch the world burn.
nuance please, Phantom mirrored and varied themes but did not rehash entire plot points and storylines. Phantom is still too thematically repetitive in some parts ("rhyming"), but compare this to TFA in detail.
- Take just the first 10 minutes: TFA opens like ANH with Stormtroopers attacking a weak civilian foe (villagers/diplomatic ship) to retrieve an important item (plan/map). They win: enter pompously the black clad, masked villain! He takes the leader (captain/chief) questions and brutally kills him, he then takes a VIP (Princess, Poe) prisoner for torture and questioning. And oh, the VIP hides the item in a little droid who escapes into the desert meeting....you know where this is going, culminationg in a trench run on DeathStar 3. Oh, I forgot to mention: the rehash begins even BEFORE the plot starts: the Jedi order was killed AGAIN by a masked Skywalker going from Jedi to dark side, seduced by the new dark side Emperor.... And of course there are plot beats (greatest hits) of Empire and Jedi (father/son/Emperor etc) plus the old EU (Han's son goes dark side, kills family members etc) thrown into the mix.
- Compare this to the very broad thematic strokes you made with Phantom Menace: this one has an original story: greedy business/trade associations go berserk by embaroing planet, democratic republic gets corrupted and unable to move against injustice. Trade associations invades planet, which however is just a ploy pushing the main villain into power. Young Queen must find her way against her advisors and the Republic to free her homeworld, oh and there is a side quest where they find pod-racing space Jesus, who will turn out Space Satan...
And this is just the originality aspect; check the creativity: TFA only rehashed/repainted designs and spaceships (X Wing/Tie Fighter/Star Destroyer/Vader Shuttle/Speeder) without adding something new. Phantom: everything is new from Pod racing to Naboo culture to Coruscant, because it is Act 1 (the bright heyday) and we will witness how it all shifts into darkness step by step.... Nobody ever called Phantom a rehash before TFA appeared: quite the contrary they said this is not SW-y enough.
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Post by Larcen26 on Aug 1, 2017 17:54:29 GMT
Ghostbusters was clearly worse...
But it wasn't a turd.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 3, 2017 1:29:49 GMT
Ghostbusters was clearly worse... But it wasn't a turd. It's universally agreed upon that all three of the movies in question are complete shit.
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Post by Larcen26 on Aug 3, 2017 14:59:01 GMT
Ghostbusters was clearly worse... But it wasn't a turd. It's universally agreed upon that all three of the movies in question are complete shit. Adorable.
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Post by blockbusted on Aug 3, 2017 17:08:28 GMT
Really? You're still harping on THAT line above all else? And you clearly haven't seen 'Ghostbusters: Answer the Call' if you think 'The Force Awakens' is more artistically bankrupt than that. Droid, please? Depends on who I talk to. With you "Got a boyfriend, cute boyfriend?" comes to mind. Like THAT better?
When comparing turds it is often difficult to firmly assess which one stinks worse: the Ghostbuster one admittedly reeks and is an abomination in form, consistency and substance, but it can be contained and ultimately forgotten. Stinky shit, but harmless.
Not so the TFA- , which manages to retroacticvely and proactively stink up an entire franchise.
And I am just talking degrees of stink here, what about writing theory? Eg that copied-yet-broken storyline? Starting out with the hunt for the map to find Luke (in an little droid), but then in the second half being suddenly interrupted by the unrelated storyline of DeathStar3 and its all-to-easy copycat-destruction? And then in the last minutes having the main map-plotline conveniently be resolved by an deus ex machina awakening (R2 meeting Marey Sue and having the map all along and nobody ever bothered to look in Lukes suspiciously abandoned droid...).
Fanfic amateurism thy name is The Farce Awakens!
'Answer the Call' is "harmless"? I'm sorry, but that film contains what might be the most blatant f**k you to fans of a series towards the end - yes, I'm talking about that scene where a main villain gets defeated because he got shot in his crotch. Not only this comes off as a blatant male bashing, but it also comes off as a director not keeping his hatred towards fans of 'Ghostbusters' series away from the film, and the fact that the whole thing doesn't make sense even within the context of a film whatsoever makes it even worse.
Oh, and the film itself has issues as well since it has no idea what it's trying to be.
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Post by mcufan on Aug 3, 2017 18:13:43 GMT
I don't care about discussing Star wars here in MCU boards but: -kid gets chosen by old Jedi. -kid discovers the force -kid has adventures with friends he meets along the way -old Jedi dies -kid ultimately saves everyone by blowing up huge spaceship. The phantom menace is a rehash of a new hope also I have no quarrel in this fight, just pointing things up and watch the world burn.
nuance please, Phantom mirrored and varied themes but did not rehash entire plot points and storylines. Phantom is still too thematically repetitive in some parts ("rhyming"), but compare this to TFA in detail.
- Take just the first 10 minutes: TFA opens like ANH with Stormtroopers attacking a weak civilian foe (villagers/diplomatic ship) to retrieve an important item (plan/map). They win: enter pompously the black clad, masked villain! He takes the leader (captain/chief) questions and brutally kills him, he then takes a VIP (Princess, Poe) prisoner for torture and questioning. And oh, the VIP hides the item in a little droid who escapes into the desert meeting....you know where this is going, culminationg in a trench run on DeathStar 3. Oh, I forgot to mention: the rehash begins even BEFORE the plot starts: the Jedi order was killed AGAIN by a masked Skywalker going from Jedi to dark side, seduced by the new dark side Emperor.... And of course there are plot beats (greatest hits) of Empire and Jedi (father/son/Emperor etc) plus the old EU (Han's son goes dark side, kills family members etc) thrown into the mix.
- Compare this to the very broad thematic strokes you made with Phantom Menace: this one has an original story: greedy business/trade associations go berserk by embaroing planet, democratic republic gets corrupted and unable to move against injustice. Trade associations invades planet, which however is just a ploy pushing the main villain into power. Young Queen must find her way against her advisors and the Republic to free her homeworld, oh and there is a side quest where they find pod-racing space Jesus, who will turn out Space Satan...
And this is just the originality aspect; check the creativity: TFA only rehashed/repainted designs and spaceships (X Wing/Tie Fighter/Star Destroyer/Vader Shuttle/Speeder) without adding something new. Phantom: everything is new from Pod racing to Naboo culture to Coruscant, because it is Act 1 (the bright heyday) and we will witness how it all shifts into darkness step by step.... Nobody ever called Phantom a rehash before TFA appeared: quite the contrary they said this is not SW-y enough.
Sure, that could be said for all Origin super-hero story. In broad strokes they are all the same give or take, but as you very well stated "nuances" makes the movie not the broadstrokes. That's why I think Dr. Strange, Iron-man, Ant-Man etc are not the same from one another. Sure the story is an Origin story but the content is absolutely different. These DCEU Zealots that keep repeating "Formula" are just nuts, don't you think?
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Post by Larcen26 on Aug 3, 2017 18:16:29 GMT
Droid, please? Depends on who I talk to. With you "Got a boyfriend, cute boyfriend?" comes to mind. Like THAT better?
When comparing turds it is often difficult to firmly assess which one stinks worse: the Ghostbuster one admittedly reeks and is an abomination in form, consistency and substance, but it can be contained and ultimately forgotten. Stinky shit, but harmless.
Not so the TFA- , which manages to retroacticvely and proactively stink up an entire franchise.
And I am just talking degrees of stink here, what about writing theory? Eg that copied-yet-broken storyline? Starting out with the hunt for the map to find Luke (in an little droid), but then in the second half being suddenly interrupted by the unrelated storyline of DeathStar3 and its all-to-easy copycat-destruction? And then in the last minutes having the main map-plotline conveniently be resolved by an deus ex machina awakening (R2 meeting Marey Sue and having the map all along and nobody ever bothered to look in Lukes suspiciously abandoned droid...).
Fanfic amateurism thy name is The Farce Awakens!
'Answer the Call' is "harmless"? I'm sorry, but that film contains what might be the most blatant f**k you to fans of a series towards the end - yes, I'm talking about that scene where a main villain gets defeated because he got shot in his crotch. Not only this comes off as a blatant male bashing, but it also comes off as a director not keeping his hatred towards fans of 'Ghostbusters' series away from the film, and the fact that the whole thing doesn't make sense even within the context of a film whatsoever makes it even worse.
Oh, and the film itself has issues as well since it has no idea what it's trying to be.
This is the only part of your comment I agree with. I think it is a lot of fun once they all stop trying so hard to be the funniest one. The whole cast as the comic relief doesn't work.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 3, 2017 18:26:02 GMT
Droid, please? Depends on who I talk to. With you "Got a boyfriend, cute boyfriend?" comes to mind. Like THAT better?
When comparing turds it is often difficult to firmly assess which one stinks worse: the Ghostbuster one admittedly reeks and is an abomination in form, consistency and substance, but it can be contained and ultimately forgotten. Stinky shit, but harmless.
Not so the TFA- , which manages to retroacticvely and proactively stink up an entire franchise.
And I am just talking degrees of stink here, what about writing theory? Eg that copied-yet-broken storyline? Starting out with the hunt for the map to find Luke (in an little droid), but then in the second half being suddenly interrupted by the unrelated storyline of DeathStar3 and its all-to-easy copycat-destruction? And then in the last minutes having the main map-plotline conveniently be resolved by an deus ex machina awakening (R2 meeting Marey Sue and having the map all along and nobody ever bothered to look in Lukes suspiciously abandoned droid...).
Fanfic amateurism thy name is The Farce Awakens!
'Answer the Call' is "harmless"? I'm sorry, but that film contains what might be the most blatant f**k you to fans of a series towards the end - yes, I'm talking about that scene where a main villain gets defeated because he got shot in his crotch. Not only this comes off as a blatant male bashing, but it also comes off as a director not keeping his hatred towards fans of 'Ghostbusters' series away from the film, and the fact that the whole thing doesn't make sense even within the context of a film whatsoever makes it even worse.
Oh, and the film itself has issues as well since it has no idea what it's trying to be.
fair enough, just watch out that you do not turn into an acute case of Freudian castration anxiety. Look, considering and honoring the fact that we are mortal enemies since IMDb days, it's only fair that we can finally agree that both films are epitomes of a chronical lack of imagination and substance. Which one is worse is a matter of taste in the end. To paraphrase more imaginative minds: If there's a bright center to the universe, these are the types of films that it's farthest from...PS: Please put on one of your avatars for nostalgia reasons again, I liked the Twilight one with the pretty girl best.
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Post by furiousstyles77 on Aug 3, 2017 20:15:05 GMT
'Answer the Call' is "harmless"? I'm sorry, but that film contains what might be the most blatant f**k you to fans of a series towards the end - yes, I'm talking about that scene where a main villain gets defeated because he got shot in his crotch. Not only this comes off as a blatant male bashing, but it also comes off as a director not keeping his hatred towards fans of 'Ghostbusters' series away from the film, and the fact that the whole thing doesn't make sense even within the context of a film whatsoever makes it even worse.
Oh, and the film itself has issues as well since it has no idea what it's trying to be.
fair enough, just watch out that you do not turn into an acute case of Freudian castration anxiety. Look, considering and honoring the fact that we are mortal enemies since IMDb days, it's only fair that we can finally agree that both films are epitomes of a chronical lack of imagination and substance. Which one is worse is a matter of taste in the end. To paraphrase more imaginative minds: If there's a bright center to the universe, these are the types of films that it's farthest from...PS: Please put on one of your avatars for nostalgia reasons again, I liked the Twilight one with the pretty girl best. Tristan , whilst i take a break from eating your slut of a mothers minge out, why do you think TFA had so high critical scores and made so much money ?
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Post by furiousstyles77 on Aug 3, 2017 20:15:54 GMT
fair enough, just watch out that you do not turn into an acute case of Freudian castration anxiety. Look, considering and honoring the fact that we are mortal enemies since IMDb days, it's only fair that we can finally agree that both films are epitomes of a chronical lack of imagination and substance. Which one is worse is a matter of taste in the end. To paraphrase more imaginative minds: If there's a bright center to the universe, these are the types of films that it's farthest from...PS: Please put on one of your avatars for nostalgia reasons again, I liked the Twilight one with the pretty girl best. Tristan , whilst i take a break from eating your slut of a mothers minge out, why do you think TFA had so high critical scores and made so much money ? if i dont respond in the next 30 mins its because im spuds deep in to your whore mothers twat
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 3, 2017 20:20:42 GMT
Tristan , whilst i take a break from eating your slut of a mothers minge out, why do you think TFA had so high critical scores and made so much money ? if i dont respond in the next 30 mins its because im spuds deep in to your whore mothers twat I doubt it Furious, you already admitted to being an self loathing impotent homosexual in the closet, and being disgusted by Women such a WW but fascinated by the smell of the used knickers of 15y old boys a la Spidey.
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Post by furiousstyles77 on Aug 4, 2017 9:47:30 GMT
if i dont respond in the next 30 mins its because im spuds deep in to your whore mothers twat I doubt it Furious, you already admitted to being an self loathing impotent homosexual in the closet, and being disgusted by Women such a WW but fascinated by the smell of the used knickers of 15y old boys a la Spidey. Prequels are shite
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 4, 2017 13:48:20 GMT
I doubt it Furious, you already admitted to being an self loathing impotent homosexual in the closet, and being disgusted by Women such a WW but fascinated by the smell of the used knickers of 15y old boys a la Spidey. Prequels are shite Great comeback. Man, you really zinged him.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 4, 2017 17:12:00 GMT
Great comeback. Man, you really zinged him. it's a cry for help. But in the closet nobody can hear you scream.
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