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Post by scabab on Aug 8, 2017 15:08:16 GMT
a follow up to a widely disliked movie isn't going to gross $130 million more 1st, BvS wasn't widely disliked. The critics who are biased in favor of MCU didn't like it, but when a movie grosses $873 million, that isn't widely disliked. In fact, the RT audience score is 63% liked it. 63% liked it means it wasn't widely disliked. 2nd, Wonder Woman is a follow-up to BvS and Wonder Woman outperformed all expectations. We've already seen these characters in the same movie already. We've already seen Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman fighting together. We've already the adventures of Dominic Torretto and his street racing crew 7 times before The Fate of the Furious, yet The Fate of the Furious still grossed over $1.2 billion. With Justice League you're talking about it making MORE money even though people disliked the last Synder DC movie. Again, people didn't dislike BvS. The RT audience score is 63% liked it. 63% liked means the vast majority of people didn't dislike it. Wonder Woman was never supposed to be bomb at all, expectations were quite high for it. Wonder Woman was supposed to be a bomb. The movie was called "a complete mess" even before it was released. And there was supposed to be no market or audience for a female-led superhero movie. Nobody is biased, it got shit reviews, was pretty understandable because it wasnt a very good movie. A 63% user score? I had no idea it was that low, that's terrible. Only a 6.7 ratings too on IMDB, the same as Wolverine Origins which also wasn't well liked. Fast and the Furious doesn't matter. Fast 7 made $1.5 billion, the sequel did hundreds of millions less and made $1.2 billion. Point being it made a good chunk less than its predecessor which people liked. By that logic Justice League would make about $700 million, a lot of money but still less. Justice League is a follow up to Batman Vs Superman a movie that only made $870 million and people didn't like. And nobody said Wonder Woman would bomb. It had high predictions on Box Office forums, HSX, Boxoffice.com and Box Mojo. The trailers were good, people liked them and they had a ton of views.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 9, 2017 16:44:58 GMT
Fast and the Furious doesn't matter. Fast 7 made $1.5 billion And you've just proven my point. Furious 7 was the 7th movie about the adventures of a street racing crew and The Fate of the Furious was the 8th movie about the adventures of a street racing crew. Both movies grossed over $1 billion, which proves that I'm correct that newness and luster are irrelevant to box office and what's relevant to box office is whether you have an audience that will see your movie. JL will not only have the DCEU regular fanbase (which saw MoS, BvS, and SS) but also have in large numbers 2 groups - female viewers and older viewers - who normally don't watch superhero movies and never saw MoS, BvS, SS, or any MCU movie but saw WW and will go to see JL because of WW. And the combination of those groups is what will put JL over the top past The Avengers.
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Post by primeone on Aug 9, 2017 17:47:09 GMT
Maybe, but it'll probably be a better film than The Force Awakens ππ TFA was a good film that made 2 billion dollars, it was rated very highly by critics and fans, Justice League will be rated poorly and will not make a billion, your analysis of the situation is poor and inaccurate Lol. See you in about 3 months
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Post by scabab on Aug 9, 2017 17:58:30 GMT
Fast and the Furious doesn't matter. Fast 7 made $1.5 billion And you've just proven my point. Furious 7 was the 7th movie about the adventures of a street racing crew and The Fate of the Furious was the 8th movie about the adventures of a street racing crew. Both movies grossed over $1 billion, which proves that I'm correct that newness and luster are irrelevant to box office and what's relevant to box office is whether you have an audience that will see your movie. JL will not only have the DCEU regular fanbase (which saw MoS, BvS, and SS) but also have in large numbers 2 groups - female viewers and older viewers - who normally don't watch superhero movies and never saw MoS, BvS, SS, or any MCU movie but saw WW and will go to see JL because of WW. And the combination of those groups is what will put JL over the top past The Avengers. Fast 7 benefitted from Paul Walker's death. It followed a good movie and was itself a s good movie. China also exploded as a market. Justice League benefits from none of those compared to Batman vs Superman. That Fast and Furious have made over a billion means nothing for Justice League when none of the other DCEU movies have made a billion. Batman vs Superman had Wonder Woman in it and yet that didn't help it to make a billion. Wonder Woman did not make a billion despite being critically acclaimed. Justice League does not have enough going for it to allow it to outgross Batman vs Superman by $170 million. It could do a billion, it's not impossible. It obviously won't come close to either of the Avengers movie though. It won't even touch Civil War figures. DC movies are not nearly as popular overseas as Marvel movies and that's where all the money etc comes from.
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Post by dnno1 on Aug 9, 2017 21:18:18 GMT
DCEUs failure is now complete, no DCEU film will ever cross a billion , thats really sad, DCEU failing , DCEU on the decline, DCEU has peaked I will tell you this. Justice League will definitely make more than BvS.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 2:42:04 GMT
DCEUs failure is now complete, no DCEU film will ever cross a billion , thats really sad, DCEU failing , DCEU on the decline, DCEU has peaked I will tell you this. Justice League will definitely make more than BvS. And that's all it needs to do.
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Post by darkpast on Aug 11, 2017 23:45:56 GMT
probably not, the movie looks like a mess, but if by the numbers Marvel films can, Justice League could possibly reach a billion, DC fans are not sheep like Marvel loonies though
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