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Post by barkingbaphomet on Aug 3, 2017 22:12:30 GMT
does anyone remember the speculation that Mavel was inentionally sabotaging Spider-Man to sour the IP for Sony?
i didn't (and don't) buy into it. it seems foolhardy at best to poison public perception of a character you wish to use yourself.
however, having seen Homecoming now, it begs the question of exactly how Sony could make an Agent Venom out of the Flash Thompson they were left with.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 23:03:11 GMT
Well Marvel scuttled the X-Men a decade or so ago to put the spotlight on their non-mutant characters, giving them prominence leading into the MCU. They cut many X-titles.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 4, 2017 4:04:48 GMT
Well Marvel scuttled the X-Men a decade or so ago to put the spotlight on their non-mutant characters, giving them prominence leading into the MCU. They cut many X-titles. Exactly. For which they will never -- and should never -- be forgiven, those swine. The only thing that kept them afloat during their darkest hour and for years thereafter were the X-books, and they had the unmitigated and cynical gall to put them out to pasture, narratively, because their corporate overlords at Disney said so. Disgusting. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 5:06:06 GMT
Well Marvel scuttled the X-Men a decade or so ago to put the spotlight on their non-mutant characters, giving them prominence leading into the MCU. They cut many X-titles. Exactly. For which they will never -- and should never -- be forgiven, those swine. The only thing that kept them afloat during their darkest hour and for years thereafter were the X-books, and they had the unmitigated and cynical gall to put them out to pasture, narratively, because their corporate overlords at Disney said so. Disgusting. This was long before Disney bought them ☝🏻 |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 4, 2017 5:18:48 GMT
Exactly. For which they will never -- and should never -- be forgiven, those swine. The only thing that kept them afloat during their darkest hour and for years thereafter were the X-books, and they had the unmitigated and cynical gall to put them out to pasture, narratively, because their corporate overlords at Disney said so. Disgusting. This was long before Disney bought them ☝🏻 It accelerated after that. |
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Post by mcufan on Aug 4, 2017 9:37:15 GMT
does anyone remember the speculation that Mavel was inentionally sabotaging Spider-Man to sour the IP for Sony? i didn't (and don't) buy into it. it seems foolhardy at best to poison public perception of a character you wish to use yourself. however, having seen Homecoming now, it begs the question of exactly how Sony could make an Agent Venom out of the Flash Thompson they were left with. Spider-Man, no. That guy sells merchandise like crazy. More than all other super-heroes put together. X-men and FF. Hell yeah they did. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 4, 2017 14:11:41 GMT
Fuck Marvel.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 4, 2017 21:49:48 GMT
does anyone remember the speculation that Mavel was inentionally sabotaging Spider-Man to sour the IP for Sony? i didn't (and don't) buy into it. it seems foolhardy at best to poison public perception of a character you wish to use yourself. however, having seen Homecoming now, it begs the question of exactly how Sony could make an Agent Venom out of the Flash Thompson they were left with. Well, Flash only just became Agent Venom now. There's plenty of time for this Flash to get character development...and there's no real need for him to become Agent Venom to begin with in this Universe. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 4, 2017 21:50:24 GMT
Well Marvel scuttled the X-Men a decade or so ago to put the spotlight on their non-mutant characters, giving them prominence leading into the MCU. They cut many X-titles. Exactly. For which they will never -- and should never -- be forgiven, those swine. The only thing that kept them afloat during their darkest hour and for years thereafter were the X-books, and they had the unmitigated and cynical gall to put them out to pasture, narratively, because their corporate overlords at Disney said so. Disgusting. Nah, the X-Men were expendable. Always were. If anything it was the X-Writers losing their minds and thinking only the X-Men mattered that caused the problems. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 5, 2017 3:58:04 GMT
Well Marvel scuttled the X-Men a decade or so ago to put the spotlight on their non-mutant characters, giving them prominence leading into the MCU. They cut many X-titles. I'd actually blame the X-men movies and Marvel trying to make the comics like them to advertise the movies. Then you had the whole Mutant X debacle. That actually hurt the comics and trying to make them more grittier and realistic and away from being comic book characters. They tried to go back to a happy medium between their high point in the 90s and a little like the movies, but it didn't work. I mean... Let's kill off Jean yet again because they were going to do Dark Phoenix in the movies. All of that and more hurt the sales of the books. Fans saw that Marvel said "Let's try something else" and thought they were being betrayed because Marvel wasn't keeping X-men at the top. And boo hoo to them cutting X-titles. Look at all the crappy titles they have now. An Iceman solo book? Really? Also, they cut and start X-titles all the time. X-treme X-men? Gambit? The many Deadpool books? Cable? X-Force? Is Excalibur still there? Generation X? New Mutants? The many X-Factor books? A lot of those were way before this supposed hating of the X-men. I don't think many of you get this, but the Avengers and the books around them are Marvel. The same as the Justice League and the books around them are DC. The X-men just rose to great heights in the company. It's the same as Teen Titans being higher than the Justice League. |
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