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Post by OrsonSwelles on Feb 27, 2017 5:26:11 GMT
Lesson: don't let old people on stage? |
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Post by OldAussie on Feb 27, 2017 5:35:17 GMT
Got a feeling they were given the wrong envelope.
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Post by movielover on Feb 27, 2017 5:45:24 GMT
The whole thing was a set up. An intentional "mistake" to get publicity, just like Steve Harvey's "mistake" (which was also staged). Both events were contrived to dupe the gullible masses and get publicity.
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Post by london777 on Feb 27, 2017 5:46:13 GMT
Lesson: Get it all done by 8.00pm while people are still more or less sober.
I assume Moonlight is deemed an "instant classic" as this thread is in the "Classic Film" section?
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Post by kijii on Feb 27, 2017 6:12:34 GMT
Got a feeling they were given the wrong envelope. I agree, Oldaussie, I think Warren Beatty had the wrong envelope--and realized it. He then gave it to Faye to read. It is hard to know what to do when you are live. But in retrospect, he should have had it checked before even reading it. I have a hard time thinking that Warren Beatty would have wanted to end a great career with a mistake. |
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Post by neurosturgeon on Feb 27, 2017 6:32:03 GMT
Those who saw Warren Beatty's last film, "Rules Don't Apply," said that was a big mistake too🙄
Emma is saying that she had her winning envelope, so it gets even more mysterious.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Feb 27, 2017 6:42:48 GMT
Clearly - as has now been clarified - Beatty was given the wrong envelope. Sh!t happens. I am just thrilled that the brilliant, heartbreaking, but ulltimately so beautiful MOONLIGHT won Best Picture, instead of the favorite LA LA LAND - making it a big night for the bookies. What a wonderful, glorious surprise.
Big kudos as well to the Academy for giving the Oscar for Best Actor to Casey Affleck for his marvelous and moving performance in MANCHESTER BY THE SEA.
I think giving the Oscar for best Foreign Film to THE SALESMAN - over the more deserving LAND OF MINE, A MAN CALLED OVE and TONI ERDMANN (all of which I enjoyed far more than THE SALESMAN) was a political statement; a big, juicy middle finger aimed straight at America's Predator-in-Chief Donald Trump and his clueless white nationalist cronies and professional liars in the White House. But, for the most part, this was a year the Academy got it right. I'm thilled that Viola David finally, and most deservedly, got her Oscar.
However, the award that made me happiest of all, was Mahershala Ali's Oscar for his electrifying performance as the compassionate, nurturing druglord Juan in MOONLIGHT. There was no more deserving winner on the night. After years of stereotypical portraits of black men in American film, the role was a game changer. Writer-director Barry Jenkins created an unforgettable character in Juan, and Ali played him to absolute perfection. Juan only appears in the first segment of MOONLIGHT, but this character lingered on in my mind, not only for the rest of the film, but for weeks after seeing it.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Feb 27, 2017 6:49:57 GMT
Those who saw Warren Beatty's last film, "Rules Don't Apply," said that was a big mistake too🙄 Emma is saying that she had her winning envelope, so it gets even more mysterious. I have to tell you I rather enjoyed RULES DON'T APPLY Linda. It's impeccably designed, with a rich, authentic sense of the period in which it is set and beautiful costumes, and Beatty delivers a witty, wily and convincing performance as Howard Hughes. Of course it was never going to be a box-office success in today's world, but I'm certainly glad Beatty made it, and that I got to see it on the big screen. I would definitely recommend you give it a watch, and not just because your beloved Martin Sheen has a nice supporting role in it. |
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Post by neurosturgeon on Feb 27, 2017 7:58:40 GMT
Jeffersoncody - I am hoping to see "Rules Don't Apply," if for no other reason in that Martin is in it. I have always found Howard Hughes an interesting person. Unless it gets up on Netflix or Hulu, I probably won't be seeing it for a while.
I have now seen the duplicate suitcase stories on the news, and I guess someone won't be back next year.
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Post by lockardthegoat on Feb 27, 2017 12:28:58 GMT
They gave it to Moonlight because it's an all-black film and they wanted to make up for the fact that no blacks were nominated at all for the last two years. La La Land deserved it, and how hard is it to NOT mix up envelopes?
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Post by london777 on Feb 27, 2017 13:11:56 GMT
I look forward to watching "Moonlight" (2016) if I can pick up a copy with English captions.
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Post by london777 on Feb 27, 2017 14:42:14 GMT
... how hard is it to NOT mix up envelopes? Obviously Trump got a Black Ops team to switch the envelopes to discredit those Hollywood commies. |
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Post by MiketheMechanic on Feb 27, 2017 15:40:14 GMT
Everyone handled it well, Beatty was clearly embarrassed and I felt bad for him when the producer snatched the correct envelope out of his hand.
I would imagine that the accounting firm's handling of the situation will become a running joke for many years to come.
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Post by divtal on Feb 27, 2017 16:41:34 GMT
Admittedly, I've never been called upon to present an award before an audience of millions. However, Warren Beatty's a bright guy, and a show-biz professional of some longevity. Why didn't he just say - "It would seem that we've been given the wrong envelope."? Even if he read the card, it wouldn't have spoiled any surprise. All other awards had been announced.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Feb 27, 2017 17:37:52 GMT
Emma is saying that she had her winning envelope, so it gets even more mysterious. Linda, Price-Waterhouse has two envelopes for each category with a person on each side of the stage for entrances. Whoever was on the side where Beatty and Dunaway entered mistakenly gave Beatty the Best Actress envelope instead of the Best Picture one. I think when Beatty, who clearly knew there was a mistake, showed it to Dunaway, he expected her to back him up and then go from there to resolve the problem. But she saw the title and announced it instead. Not a surprise, given that everyone thought La La Land would win. Still, a shame. Too bad Beatty is going to get the most flak/ridicule. I wonder what Jimmy Kimmel has in store for his show tonight? Hopefully he'll clear up the story and maybe have Beatty and the makers of both winning movies on. Kimmel did take the blame last night saying it was his fault on air. I think he's the best late night host and did a solid job last night. I'd have no problem seeing him host again. |
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Feb 27, 2017 18:45:05 GMT
I look forward to watching "Moonlight" (2016) if I can pick up a copy with English captions. I'll bite. Why do you need English captions for an English language movie? Is (North(American)) English not your first language and/or do you have a hearing issue? |
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Post by neurosturgeon on Feb 28, 2017 2:36:54 GMT
I heard a report that someone shown in the "In Memorium" segment isn't dead. Anyone know who it was?
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Post by har28low on Feb 28, 2017 3:19:17 GMT
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Post by bd74 on Feb 28, 2017 3:20:21 GMT
They gave it to Moonlight because it's an all-black film and they wanted to make up for the fact that no blacks were nominated at all for the last two years. La La Land deserved it, and how hard is it to NOT mix up envelopes? I do not understand how Moonlight is considered a better film than La La Land. I went into Moonlight with an open mind, expecting to see something outstanding. Instead, I found the movie boring and mediocre. This whole notion of "Moonlight is an amazing film" is completely baffling to me. On the other hand, I went into La La Land thinking it would bore me because I don't like musicals, but I ended up enjoying it a lot. |
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Post by jeffersoncody on Feb 28, 2017 5:49:21 GMT
Both LA LA LAND and MOONLIGHT re excellent films bd74, and alongwith LOVING, 13TH, O.J SIMPSON: MADE IN AMERICA and MANCHESTER BY THE SEA earned rare 10 out of 10 ratings from me. The brillint MOONLIGHT, however, is a game changer (in its portrayal of black people on the screen) which will stand the test of time. I have to say I was as thrilled as I was surprised when it won Best Picture. Somtimes the little picture with the big, brave heart and a soul stirring humanistic message which reaches right into the midst of the culture and the times wins. That was what happened this year. There is nothing "mediocre" about MOONLIGHT, and how anyone can describe it as "boring" is hard for me to understand.
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