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Post by spooner5020 on Aug 6, 2017 14:24:39 GMT
So I think we can all agree that the movie sucked. Sad,but true. If I were in charge of the movie I would have done it as a Spaghetti western,had Viggo as Roland,maybe would have kept Matthew or maybe Karl Urban as the Man in Black. I would have made the movie based only and only on the first book. I would have made Roland the main character and made Jake a secondary character and probably would have made the movie rated R.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 6, 2017 15:06:13 GMT
It wouldn't have been a movie since it would be too risky to make 6 or 7 of an R-Rated epic.
It should have gotten the Game of Thrones treatment via Westworld.
Hollywood spends too much time trying to figure out how to dumb down something, but the reality is people will watch something that is fascinating if they don't completely understand it at first.
The story needs to to tell of the whole group and it needs to explain the significance and importance of Jake to Roland plus what Roland is willing to do to achieve his goal.
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Post by spooner5020 on Aug 6, 2017 15:29:43 GMT
It wouldn't have been a movie since it would be too risky to make 6 or 7 of an R-Rated epic. It should have gotten the Game of Thrones treatment via Westworld. Hollywood spends too much time trying to figure out how to dumb down something, but the reality is people will watch something that is fascinating if they don't completely understand it at first. The story needs to to tell of the whole group and it needs to explain the significance and importance of Jake to Roland plus what Roland is willing to do to achieve his goal. Lord of The Rings seemed to have no problem turning the books into movies. It's just whoever involved with this movie didn't give a shit about the source material. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 6, 2017 15:37:14 GMT
It wouldn't have been a movie since it would be too risky to make 6 or 7 of an R-Rated epic. It should have gotten the Game of Thrones treatment via Westworld. Hollywood spends too much time trying to figure out how to dumb down something, but the reality is people will watch something that is fascinating if they don't completely understand it at first. The story needs to to tell of the whole group and it needs to explain the significance and importance of Jake to Roland plus what Roland is willing to do to achieve his goal. Lord of The Rings seemed to have no problem turning the books into movies. It's just whoever involved with this movie didn't give a shit about the source material. Dark Tower would never make the money LOTR did because it's not the same tone nor the same fanbase. They could make some cheap versions of it but then you may get the type of epic that always comes out of cheap budgets. Money and dumbing down has always been the root of this. Thew people who made it cared but couldn't deliver because they assumed too much regarding the audience and no one wanted to give the money it needed or they used it to get stars rather than on production values. If they had simply done the first book, it would have been great but still not a blockbuster. |
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Post by petrolino on Aug 6, 2017 17:42:54 GMT
I hear a tv series is in the works. Looking forward to seeing the movie.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Aug 6, 2017 18:24:06 GMT
can't agree that the one they made sucks since i haven't seen it but i've little faith. i understand it's some sort of combination sequel/re-imagining?
i'd start with the first book and just that.
60% spaghetti western, 40% part dark fantasy (faint Game of Thrones tone)
Lee Pace as Roland.
Ian McShane as the Man in Black.
probably some unknown as Jake. i don't really know.
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Post by gogoschka1 on Aug 6, 2017 20:30:16 GMT
Actually, I'd quite simply do what Frank Darabont did so well with his adaptations: film what's in the books. Start with the first book, make it as faithful as you can. This means it would have to be an epic, R-rated psychedelic fantasy/horror western. A guy like Darabont could make that film on a 30-40 million budget, and I'm sure King fans as well as fans of horror films, westerns and weird fantasy would show up.
Over a period of several films or a TV-series, staying faithful to the story and world King has created is crucial. That world should be portrayed as it is in the books: it is rotting at its core; it has moved on; it is bleeding out and dying. It is inhabited by the last (mostly) degenerate, insane or mutated survivors of humanity. And there are places in Mid-World where demons have their lair, who are willing to serve as oracles in exchange for sex with humans. It's a bleak and brutal world where life is cheap and in the last scarcely populated towns religious fanatism is festering like a disease.
Roland, a lone gunslinger, the last of his kind (descended from a long line of gunslingers who once were something like a ruling class of knights in Mid-World), ruthlessly and pitylessly paves his way through all this insanity on his quest to find a cure for this world - leaving piles of bodies in his wake (including most of his friends whom he has sacrificed for this quest).
What Roland knows of his world is that in ancient times, the very fabric which held the universe together had probably been destroyed (or nearly destroyed) by mankind but was rebuilt with the help of technology; a technology so powerful it could build a structure which kept the nexus point for all worlds in balance. Without that structure, the center through which all worlds are connected and the universe kept stable would collapse. In the gunslinger's world, that center is known as the mythical Dark Tower.
The technology which once built the support structure for the Dark Tower has been forgotten for thousands of years by the time the gunslinger’s story takes place, but its remnants can still be found throughout Mid-World, like the ruins of a fallen empire (although some of them are still functioning). And now that technology is failing: the gargantuan "scaffold" that keeps the universe from collapsing, seems to malfunction.
As a consequence, Roland's world is dying and it is his quest to find the Dark Tower and fix what's wrong with it. The Man in Black, an evil being who has crossed the gunslinger's path in the past, seems to hold a clue as to how the Dark Tower can be found (and maybe he even knows what's wrong with it). In order to get to the Man in Black, Roland will stop at nothing. In order to reach this goal, nothing is sacred: not even the lives of innocent women and children, not even friendship or love.
That's the essence a Dark Tower movie needs to capture (as far as I'm concerned).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 23:02:41 GMT
So I think we can all agree that the movie sucked. Sad,but true. If I were in charge of the movie I would have done it as a Spaghetti western,had Viggo as Roland,maybe would have kept Matthew or maybe Karl Urban as the Man in Black. I would have made the movie based only and only on the first book. I would have made Roland the main character and made Jake a secondary character and probably would have made the movie rated R. This would largely be the way to go, I think. |
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Post by spooner5020 on Aug 7, 2017 12:49:02 GMT
Actually, I'd quite simply do what Frank Darabont did so well with his adaptations: film what's in the books. Start with the first book, make it as faithful as you can. This means it would have to be an epic, R-rated psychedelic fantasy/horror western. A guy like Darabont could make that film on a 30-40 million budget, and I'm sure King fans as well as fans of horror films, westerns and weird fantasy would show up. Over a period of several films or a TV-series, staying faithful to the story and world King has created is crucial. That world should be portrayed as it is in the books: it is rotting at its core; it has moved on; it is bleeding out and dying. It is inhabited by the last (mostly) degenerate, insane or mutated survivors of humanity. And there are places in Mid-World where demons have their lair, who are willing to serve as oracles in exchange for sex with humans. It's a bleak and brutal world where life is cheap and in the last scarcely populated towns religious fanatism is festering like a disease. Roland, a lone gunslinger, the last of his kind (descended from a long line of gunslingers who once were something like a ruling class of knights in Mid-World), ruthlessly and pitylessly paves his way through all this insanity on his quest to find a cure for this world - leaving piles of bodies in his wake (including most of his friends whom he has sacrificed for this quest).What Roland knows of his world is that in ancient times, the very fabric which held the universe together had probably been destroyed (or nearly destroyed) by mankind but was rebuilt with the help of technology; a technology so powerful it could build a structure which kept the nexus point for all worlds in balance. Without that structure, the center through which all worlds are connected and the universe kept stable would collapse. In the gunslinger's world, that center is known as the mythical Dark Tower.The technology which once built the support structure for the Dark Tower has been forgotten for thousands of years by the time the gunslinger’s story takes place, but its remnants can still be found throughout Mid-World, like the ruins of a fallen empire (although some of them are still functioning). And now that technology is failing: the gargantuan "scaffold" that keeps the universe from collapsing, seems to malfunction.As a consequence, Roland's world is dying and it is his quest to find the Dark Tower and fix what's wrong with it. The Man in Black, an evil being who has crossed the gunslinger's path in the past, seems to hold a clue as to how the Dark Tower can be found (and maybe he even knows what's wrong with it). In order to get to the Man in Black, Roland will stop at nothing. In order to reach this goal, nothing is sacred: not even the lives of innocent women and children, not even friendship or love.That's the essence a Dark Tower movie needs to capture (as far as I'm concerned). Wasn't Darabont supposed to direct at one point? |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Aug 7, 2017 12:52:40 GMT
Very oddly.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 7, 2017 16:58:57 GMT
30 years ago when anyone would have cared.
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Post by Larcen26 on Aug 7, 2017 20:19:40 GMT
Make it R-Rated.
Make it 2 hours.
Spend more time in Mid-world.
Make Roland the main character.
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