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Post by MooseNugget on Aug 8, 2017 4:53:42 GMT
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Post by The Lost One on Aug 8, 2017 14:17:30 GMT
I wonder if such a gene were to be found how that would affect the gatekeeping that goes on with transition? On the plus side, if the psychiatrist doubted you were truly transgender some DNA analysis could convince them otherwise. On the bad side what if you really really felt transgender yet the DNA said otherwise? Would transition be forever cut off to you?
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Post by MooseNugget on Aug 8, 2017 20:03:42 GMT
I wonder if such a gene were to be found how that would affect the gatekeeping that goes on with transition? On the plus side, if the psychiatrist doubted you were truly transgender some DNA analysis could convince them otherwise. On the bad side what if you really really felt transgender yet the DNA said otherwise? Would transition be forever cut off to you? I think the video is interesting but I like to side with being transgender is a choice. People are different because of the different experiences they had in life. I don't know why someone deciding to be transgender can't be because if that. I guess maybe it would be controversial because I often hear a transgender person say they were born to be the way they were. I don't think it's true. I think babies are mostly born with blank slates. Nobody is born a Christian or Muslim. Nobody is born a conservative or liberal. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 21:59:33 GMT
So does this mean people who transition then change their mind were also born that way?
The transgender but not transgender gene?
Also, have they found the cheeky gene yet? My mate Dave's always being cheeky and wants to get an operation.
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Post by The Lost One on Aug 8, 2017 22:08:53 GMT
I think the video is interesting but I like to side with being transgender is a choice. Here's the thing though, even if it's not genetic, that doesn't make it a choice. As the guy in the video says, no-one wakes up one morning and thinks "hey changing genders seems like a lark". Whether it's caused by nature or nurture or a combination of both, gender dysphoria is real and not something anyone chooses to have. |
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Post by MooseNugget on Aug 8, 2017 23:08:04 GMT
I think the video is interesting but I like to side with being transgender is a choice. Here's the thing though, even if it's not genetic, that doesn't make it a choice. As the guy in the video says, no-one wakes up one morning and thinks "hey changing genders seems like a lark". Whether it's caused by nature or nurture or a combination of both, gender dysphoria is real and not something anyone chooses to have. Well the same could be said about people and religion. Most people don't just wake up in the morning and decide they want to convert. It is a choice because there's nothing from stopping them from just trying to continue to be the gender they were given. People are in charge of their own destiny. Some people look at their lives and see there's no other way. But that's not true. People have power to change and do a lot of things. I'm not sure what gender dysphoria is. I'm not going to pretend to be an expect but maybe I'm flat out wrong on the subject. I'm just expressing my ill informed opinion on the matter and someone shouldn't take what I'm saying as the gospel. |
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Post by The Lost One on Aug 8, 2017 23:39:27 GMT
It is a choice because there's nothing from stopping them from just trying to continue to be the gender they were given. Some do - you just don't hear about those ones! But why if you're suffering from trying to live what you feel is the wrong gender should you continue to do so? That's another point in the video - even if it could be said to be at least on some level a choice, what is wrong with people making that choice if they feel it's right for them? |
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Post by MooseNugget on Aug 8, 2017 23:51:21 GMT
It is a choice because there's nothing from stopping them from just trying to continue to be the gender they were given. Some do - you just don't hear about those ones! But why if you're suffering from trying to live what you feel is the wrong gender should you continue to do so? That's another point in the video - even if it could be said to be at least on some level a choice, what is wrong with people making that choice if they feel it's right for them? I've seen stories of some men making the wrong choice for them when it comes to changing their gender. Some men are just gay and wrongly decide to become a woman. I seen one story of a transgender person getting convinced to go back to being a man and being miserable because of it. Maybe people just feel pressured to continue on the path they're on. Could be their family. Maybe they don't want to lose their jobs. Maybe they don't want to lose their friends. |
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Post by The Lost One on Aug 8, 2017 23:56:57 GMT
I've seen stories of some men making the wrong choice for them when it comes to changing their gender. Some men are just gay and wrongly decide to become a woman. Sure but just because a few have got it wrong doesn't mean it's not still the right choice for others. Detransitioning is pretty rare anyway. |
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Post by scienceisgod on Aug 18, 2017 6:20:00 GMT
Bait and switch. "Geneticists are studying genetic origin" and "decades of evidence of biological origin" are two different things. Environmental pollution in the womb would be a biological origin. That's what's turning the frogs transgender.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 18, 2017 15:06:32 GMT
interesting.
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Post by Ass_E9 on Aug 18, 2017 16:56:27 GMT
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Post by Patrick on Aug 19, 2017 6:31:52 GMT
There is no transgender gene.
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